The Art of The Auto

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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Okay so I had problems with my first grow of blue mystic autos because they refused to flower using 18/6 light cycle. I got my seeds from Nirvana. I'm using the first batch of seeds I got from Nirvana and I'm using 12/12 light cycle, do you suggest changing light cycle to 18/6 with this batch of autos? Will changing the light cycle affect them? She is 21 days old under a 150w HPS with 2-26w CFLs. I LSTed her too. Here's a pic of Joni....

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dan nash

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hey guys and gals. how are we all. Im curious about growin auto's with CFL. should i be using 2700K or 6400K lights throughout the grow? im not too sure. im going for a light cycle of 18/6. any tips and advice would be great. thanks :)
 

teflondummy

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Or you can do like I do and have part of your space heavier on the 6500 end of the spectrum. I use one side for veg and seedlings then they move them a foot or two to the side for flower under 2700 bulbs. My space is 4x3 and 75% of my bulbs are 2700
 
been pondering a few things, and figured why not post it here, seeing how ive been reading through for like a week, here goes, any advice/info would be greatly appreciated.

im gonna be growing afghan kush ryder

question #1 was wondering if i could start the seeds in an aerogarden, and then transfer them to soil later, is this doable, or do you think it would affect yield seeing how there autos

im going to eventually have these plants in pots on my porch, but thats once it warms up

i have alot more questions, but ill take it easy for now

everyone have a good smoke for me
 
Glad to have you aboard, i have a few guides to help you turn the strain of your choice into an auto.

i can tell you this if you spend 5 years doing it, your taking to long. Thats the beauty of an auto the breeding time is cut to a minimal. Sure it takes time to grow out the photo plant you want to cross into auto, but once you get it ready the auto rotation comes quick.

By the end of the breeding project i will have ran 4 full runs between the months of March and Oct. Thats typically twice the amount of the average grower. Mind you some have the ability to have multiple rooms to assist in a constant rotation for photo girls.

IF you have your stuff together and ready to breed your fav strain of choice to auto you could have it auto by the end of the first full season and then stable half way to 3/4 of the way through the next. So roughly 1.5-2 years unless you can grow year round.

One thing to note, and this is what i am thinking has happened to the seeds that were being sold at Nirvana. It takes to f3 alone to get the auto trait in the + side ratio of your seeds. The auto trait will be 100% stable around f6/f7.

However if you breed auto to auto or cross auto to auto the seeds WILL be 100% autoflower due to the fact that the genetic trait is 100% on both sides.

about the breeding on page 5 i think it is. ok, to breed an auto with a non auto, after the initial breeding some of the offspring will be auto, some will not, now, do you store the original pollen from the male auto and use it to back cross the offspring that come out auto, or do you select a male and a female auto from the offspring and breed them together/inbreed? I know the process has to be repeated 6-7 times to have 100% autos, I just need to know which male pollen to use, original genetics/bloodline for every generation or keep selecting males and females each generation and inbreed them until the offspring become 100 % auto. thanks in advance if you can help me clear this up.
 

Medical Grade

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Afghan kush Ryder seeds from world of seeds are kinda expensive.. The only other auto I Have tried was himalayan blue diesel which wasn't very potent. Any one have any suggestions for my next order?
 

0PTICS

Active Member
hey there everyone new to the site also new to growing i've had 2 decent harvests my most recent one being a Lowryder 2 purchased through the bc bud depot i was very impressed with the yield i was able to pull off of her considering the amount ph stress i caused it (noob) lol i got just under 3 ounces from one plant using a set up of 1 250 watt hps all the way through planted in a 6 gal pot. she grew to be just over 2 feet tall and very bushy. i dont have too many pics of her but i'll get them up here as soon as i can. +rep for the thread
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0PTICS

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oh and also about 2 weeks into an easyryder straight from the joint doctor...well his site atleast lol any advice would be great
 

GANJGUY420

Active Member
Im gonna be using 550 watts of hps per lab in 2 grow labs with 98%+ reflective material (AWESOME BTW) growing La Diva, Pandora, Afghan Kush Ryder and Easy Ryder. Im gonna be using roots ogranic soil, earth worm castings, blood meal, fish bone meal, dolomite lime, perite, epsom salt, humic acid, and azomite. I put the mix in a trash can, add water and let it cook in the sun for 30 days to activate the mycros. I use no nutrients just ph balanced h20 from start to finish. Never plant seeds or clones directly into this mix! This is a hot soil mix so i only use 30% to 50% of this "Super Soil" and the rest just plain roots soil so that way the plants can work there way into the hot soil. This is gonna be my first run using these methods. I got the soil base recipe from Subcool who is certainly the most respected grower in my book! He's the top dog of "TGA Subcool" seed bank and breeding co. Go to the Attitude Seedbank and check out his stuff!! I'm all about learning from the best and spreading these supierior methods like wild fire so if your serious about your stuff and want the most best tasting buds, hydro like growth, aromas and super monster terpins...Go under the organics forum and look under Subcool's old school organics. There you will find the 2010 revised super soil recipe. Happy grows and sends me your thoughts on this!! ONE LOVE!!!!
 
To retain the auto trait you would want to breed the plants that have it.
Yea I know you have to use the offspring that carry the auto trait, but do you use the pollen from the same male auto you used to produce the seeds or a male from the seeds that were produced? I know the female has to be from the seeds that were produced, but is she fuckin her daddy or her brother?
 

Medical Grade

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Well back crossing would be done to preserve some trait from the daddy. So it is not necessary, but either brother or father would carry the auto trait.
 

b.R.

Active Member
most people including mossy and fd as well as many others who used to post frequently have moved to another site "autoflower.net" is where its at... a site dedicated to and only for autoflowering plants....
 

findme

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most people including mossy and fd as well as many others who used to post frequently have moved to another site "autoflower.net" is where its at... a site dedicated to and only for autoflowering plants....
they could have easily asked the mods to make a auto section for them on here.. ah well. just another place I gotta register I guess.
 
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