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dakin3d

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Sigh im so pissed off. My Milwaukee PH600 meter went belly up today. 8 days outside the 30 day warranty Milwaukee offers on it because its considered 'economical', which is really their way of saying, "this meter is a piece of shit and will crap out on you shortly after your warranty is up. thanks for the money sucker!"

Now im stuck using ph strips until I can get a new one. Anyone have any suggestions. Mind you I can't shell out tons of money for one.

Thanks
Anyway, I found a website via their ebay store. GOOD: They have extremely low prices, if anyone has lower, please make me aware. Plus, free shipping over 19$...nice. BAD: However, the downfall is that if anything goes wrong, only have 3 DAYS, you have to deal w/ the manufacturer as opposed to the seller. Also, 25% restocking fee, which is a bit steep if you return it for any reason. AT YOUR OWN RISK: http://www.eseasongear.com/

Hope it helps
 

DaveCoulier

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Thanks for the help guys. Im gonna pick up the Hanna 99104 from that site you gave me Dakin. Hanna meters come with 2 year warranty to boot. Next time before I make a purchase Ill pay close attention to the warranty.
 

dakin3d

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the help guys. Im gonna pick up the Hanna 99104 from that site you gave me Dakin. Hanna meters come with 2 year warranty to boot. Next time before I make a purchase Ill pay close attention to the warranty.
Hey Dave, I was just going to point you in the direction of the 98107... I know that the 99104 is a pen, so makes for easy insertion into bottles, etc, but my friend just ordered that same model and its not quite as nice as it looks in the picture. Plus, the manual knobs on the back are large and have a loose tension, so its easy to screw up your calibrated meter just by handling it. The 98107 is def a higher quality meter for only 1.30 more, but that's only my opinion, so you can take it for what it's worth! Have a good one...:leaf:
 

Sexxxy Beast

Active Member
My friend uses one. It's called a line voltage thermostat, which is basically what any other thermostatically controlled fan switch is. We use them often in my line of work. All you do is wire it to a supply 120v source on one set of terminals and the other set is wired to your fan (black wire to gold and white to silver). This can easily be wired to an outlet box so you can just plug your fan(s) right into it. They're pretty damned reliable and I've seen one mounted to an adjustable shelf bracket on the wall so it can be raised and lowered according to canopy height. Evil genius huh?

Also, if you look down the page, there is a programmable stat that already has an outlet built in. It's 35 bucks, which is still cheaper than the control wizard product and like it says, it's programmable, meaning you can set it to different temps for on and off light cycles (might be handy when using CO2).
This will regulate the speed of the fan or just switch it off at a certain temp?
 

magik*420

Active Member
Sigh im so pissed off. My Milwaukee PH600 meter went belly up today. 8 days outside the 30 day warranty Milwaukee offers on it because its considered 'economical', which is really their way of saying, "this meter is a piece of shit and will crap out on you shortly after your warranty is up. thanks for the money sucker!"

Now im stuck using ph strips until I can get a new one. Anyone have any suggestions. Mind you I can't shell out tons of money for one.

Thanks
I just got my PH600 like 2 days ago from eseasongear.com!! Well is there anything you would recommend to try to prolong the life of it?? I was planning on picking up a Hanna in the near future.. But if you have any tips for keeping my PH600 alive through my first grow I would appreciate it! :bigjoint:
 

DaveCoulier

Well-Known Member
Hey Dave, I was just going to point you in the direction of the 98107... I know that the 99104 is a pen, so makes for easy insertion into bottles, etc, but my friend just ordered that same model and its not quite as nice as it looks in the picture. Plus, the manual knobs on the back are large and have a loose tension, so its easy to screw up your calibrated meter just by handling it. The 98107 is def a higher quality meter for only 1.30 more, but that's only my opinion, so you can take it for what it's worth! Have a good one...:leaf:
Ah hell. They've already shipped the damned thing. One time Id actually like a company to be slow on shipping. Oh well. As long as itll last me a grow or two until I can upgrade to a better one Ill be happy.

I just got my PH600 like 2 days ago from eseasongear.com!! Well is there anything you would recommend to try to prolong the life of it?? I was planning on picking up a Hanna in the near future.. But if you have any tips for keeping my PH600 alive through my first grow I would appreciate it! :bigjoint:
Pray my friend, pray. You should calibrate it pretty much every time you use it. Mine was always .1 off about 75% of the time.
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
I just got my PH600 like 2 days ago from eseasongear.com!! Well is there anything you would recommend to try to prolong the life of it?? I was planning on picking up a Hanna in the near future.. But if you have any tips for keeping my PH600 alive through my first grow I would appreciate it! :bigjoint:

KEEP THE PROBE MOIST WITH storing solution!(or 4.0 or 7.0)
I too just got one from eseasongear . (milwaukee PH51) and i do have to calibrate every single use ? i dont understand :wall:
i guess all pens are like this?
is it from shaking it to get excess water off it?
Do we HAVE to spend 130 or more for one that stays calibrated or are they all like this?
please and thank u.
:joint:
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
We all know how important it is to maintaining the proper pH.

Here are some tips from Pinpoint
on how to maintain your pH meter
so that it is giving you the critical information you need
to maximize your yields.

Avoid placing the probe in RO or De-ionized water.
Contact with low ionic fluids
can cause the reference fluid in the probe to leak out
and shorten the life of the probe.

Clean the probe tip gently every 3–4 weeks
using a SOFT TOOTHBRUSH ONLY .
Push the probe tip down into the wet bristles
and rotate the probe 3–4 times, use Tapwater.

This will clean the inner surfaces of the probe
as well as the sensing glass
and reference junctions.
No other cleaners are necessary, or recommended.

Occasional replacement of the probe is necessary to maintain performance.

The probe should be discarded and replaced
when it can no longer be calibrated with 2 different calibration fluids.
If it takes more than 1 minute
to read between 4.0 to 7.0
then your probe is at the end of it's useful life
and should be replaced.

The useful life of a pH Probe
is approximately 18 months of continuous duty.

Important Points to Remember:


Most pH meters are NOT waterproof
and must be operated on a dry surface.
Liquid contact with the printed circuit board
may cause corrosion and void warranty.

The clear plastic cap must be removed from the tip of the probe
so that pH values can be measured.
A small amount of storage fluid may be expelled;
this is normal.

There may be some white salt
which is Potassium Chloride residue,
from the storage solution and forms
around the clear plastic cap.
This is normal,
and can be washed off
with tapwater.
(avoid contact with distilled or RO water)

Keep the sensing surface of the probe WET at all times.

If the probe is to be transported or stored,
the plastic cap must be filled with storage solution,
or 4.00 calibration fluid,
prior to being installed onto the probe.

Probe should be inserted at least 1 inch into the liquid to be measured.
Probe may be totally submerged if desired.

If several probes are used,
(i.e., pH and TDS, or several pH probes, etc.)
space the probes 3–4 inches apart,
so that the probes will not react with each other,
and yield erroneous readings.

Clean the sensing glass and reference junctions of the probe,
every few weeks by using only a wet soft toothbrush and tapwater.

Replace the probe at least every 18 months for optimum performance.

Check the calibration often to verify your pH readings.

Place the probe into 2 different calibration fluids,
(e.g. 7.00 & 4.00),
to verify that it can read the 2 fluids correctly.

Recalibrate the meter if either, or both,
of the 2 calibration fluids are displayed incorrectly.

Do not allow air bubbles to accumulate under a vertically installed electrode.

pH Probes

1. Glass body electrode versus Epoxy (plastic) body electrode: Glass body electrodes stand higher temperatures (typically 100 C against 80 C for plastic) and are more resistant to corrosive chemicals and solvents. They are easier to clean and are available in different shapes depending on the application. On the other hand plastic body electrodes are more rugged and the glass bulb is better protected.

2. Gel filled electrodes versus refillable electrodes: refillable electrodes last longer since electrolyte can be changed for repeated usage. The response is faster due to a greater outflow of electrolyte into the sample and therefore less likely to clog. Gel filled electrodes require less maintenance and resist to higher pressure.

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Integra21

Well-Known Member
I use this Hanna Gro-Check.
http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=430
on this site it is only $90 and it is cheaper if you look around. I calibrate once a month and it is never off by more than .05. Just doing basic maintinence of rinsing it off after every use and storing in ro water. I know what the above post said, but when I contacted Hanna on proper storage and they told me to store in 7.0 solution or ro water. I have had it now for 9 months and it works great. Just another suggestion in this long list.
 

DaveCoulier

Well-Known Member
Just an update for anyone thinking of purchasing the Cool tube I previously posted about. It comes with a cord that is designed to attach to their own brand of ballast(Hydrofarm). My buddy had to remove that cord and wire in the cord that came with his own ballast.

Funny thing is, if you go directly to the manufacturer of the cool tube, its twice as much than buying through www.dchydro.com
 

sherriberry

New Member
Heres one for...... This Dual 30" Air Cooled Super Yield Hydrotek 2000W System is a complete system that comes equipped with two 1000 watt HPS bulb, an Air Cooled Cylinder Reflector, along with two Hydrotek ballasts. The ballasts are offered with a 5 year manufacturer's warranty. It's two 1000 watters in a single air cooled cylinder. Price is $399.00 Thought that was grrrrreat. Peace.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=330234922571&Category=42225&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2
I wonder if theres a way to saw that thing in half and add some filler hose to spread those appart :)

I think the best idea would be to put one of the bulbs in a cool sun reflector.

Hell, i wonder what they would sell just the bulbs and the ballasts for... then a person could get some reflectors that are worth a damn.

Ill tell ya what else... at the bottom of the ebay page, they have another similar setup, running 2 400 watt bulbs... and its almost 400 bucks.... something is fishy
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
Calcium Cafbonate is found in all water that comes from an underground source..
known as well water, which is what most most city tapwater is.

Calcium carbonate will bond with the Mg (magnesium) in your nutrients or soil.

Some dirt farmers try to overcome this Mg lock out
by adding large amounts of Mg in the form of epsom salt.

This may work for a short time,
but the salt will build up and ruin the soil.

The best water is from the clouds
or water that has been steam evaporated,
or processed by reverse osmosis.

Pure water is vital to your plants ability to uptake nutrients,
whether you are growing in dirt or hydro.

Good water will make you look like a Great farmer.


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sherriberry

New Member
Calcium Cafbonate is found in all water that comes from an underground source..
known as well water, which is what most most city tapwater is.

Calcium carbonate will bond with the Mg (magnesium) in your nutrients or soil.

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Thanks for that info... so how much water can that thing filter, and do you hook it up to your res, or do you have to purify your water and store it in a big trash can, prior to adding any nutes to it?

Is it only calcium that it filters or other stuff too? THanks
 

Stgeneziz

Active Member
I bought one from the same site as earl. here and I love it!! (thanx earl)

I bought the small portable one and it is too easy to install and use. It's R/O di so it pretty much leaves the water stripped. It cranks out plenty of water for my grow! and then some.
 

Big Raw J

Active Member
I bought one from the same site as earl. here and I love it!! (thanx earl)

I bought the small portable one and it is too easy to install and use. It's R/O di so it pretty much leaves the water stripped. It cranks out plenty of water for my grow! and then some.
I too have that portable unit..Installing a utility sink in my basement so I can have it hooked up all the time..sweet!
 
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