GrowSpecialist
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Yes but can Fox Farm Light warrior be found at Wal mart, Home Depot or Lowe's?
The best soil for seedlings?
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mane2008
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that's what they say, it's made for seed starting.
nope only hydro store or online.
ibuildthings
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fox farms ocean forest is good and can be foind at any local nursery.
DivinePower
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I would not recommend FF Happy Frog for germing/seedlings. I had very bad results with it. Once I changed to Jiffy Mix (made for germing, found at Home Depot) I've had absolutely no problems except some errant seed issues. The ones that have popped have grown like bottle rockets. Once they grow to a decent size I gave them a small SMALL dosage of some nutes because there are none in this mix... and they are growing even faster.
Disclaimer - I'm a noob. Only offering up my experience and what knowledge that has been handed to me via some vets helping me diagnose my issues.
Disclaimer - I'm a noob. Only offering up my experience and what knowledge that has been handed to me via some vets helping me diagnose my issues.
OregonMeds
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Try a soilless mix if you want to control everything and not burn your babies.
You said you don't care about what we add to the soil? You should care. If you want the best weed you might want to try organic with bat guano, fish emulsion, added perlite in a top brand soil like FF.
If you go miracle grow soil it's best just to not add any nutes. I'm using MG crap now and hate it but it is easy and simple and cheap.
Growth in MG or other cheap soil is way slower than a good organic mix or soilless mix with good nutes.
Peat pellets work awesome I don't get why people are disrespecting them. I compared all the common media for cloning and seedlings and peat pellets worked the best by a pretty good margin. Rockwool pales in comparison.
You said you don't care about what we add to the soil? You should care. If you want the best weed you might want to try organic with bat guano, fish emulsion, added perlite in a top brand soil like FF.
If you go miracle grow soil it's best just to not add any nutes. I'm using MG crap now and hate it but it is easy and simple and cheap.
Growth in MG or other cheap soil is way slower than a good organic mix or soilless mix with good nutes.
Peat pellets work awesome I don't get why people are disrespecting them. I compared all the common media for cloning and seedlings and peat pellets worked the best by a pretty good margin. Rockwool pales in comparison.
AfterMidnight
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In my experience FF Ocean Forrest out-of-the-bag is a little too hot for seedlings (but awesome otherwise, especially as a base for a mix).
crippledguy
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yea the ocean forest but not the light warrior or the potting soil!
Mystery101
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Ocean Forest Light Warrior CAN be used for seedlings alone.. IT HAS ALL THE NUTRIETS NEEDED (not too high, but organic nutes) and is AIRY.
This means YOUR SEEDLINGS will NOT get burned.
Although the light warrior is not redely availible YOU CAN find your own mix.
PERLITE is a must use if your trying to get "regular" soil up to par. Just make sure the npk values are right. 70-30/50-50 depending on your preference.
"yea the ocean forest but not the light warrior or the potting soil"
-not sure what he's talking about. Potting soil is a must instead of cheap dirt..Just make sure its GOOD potting soil. Ocean Forest is best for plants >3weeks.
Ocean Forest will burn seedlings. Light warrior will not.
SEEDLINGS
-Not heavy on ferts
-Needs to be airy
-Perlite is good/but optional
>3weeks
-Ocean Forest/Happy Frog/Mostly anything where in NPK, N is higher then p+k,
-Potting soil mixed with perlite
The main problem with soil tends to be, has way too many ferts, too watered down (soil is not drainable), not right soil(dirt)
You'll do fine man, at least your concerned with it, unlike some
HAPPY SMOKING TO EVERYONE
This means YOUR SEEDLINGS will NOT get burned.
Although the light warrior is not redely availible YOU CAN find your own mix.
PERLITE is a must use if your trying to get "regular" soil up to par. Just make sure the npk values are right. 70-30/50-50 depending on your preference.
"yea the ocean forest but not the light warrior or the potting soil"
-not sure what he's talking about. Potting soil is a must instead of cheap dirt..Just make sure its GOOD potting soil. Ocean Forest is best for plants >3weeks.
Ocean Forest will burn seedlings. Light warrior will not.
SEEDLINGS
-Not heavy on ferts
-Needs to be airy
-Perlite is good/but optional
>3weeks
-Ocean Forest/Happy Frog/Mostly anything where in NPK, N is higher then p+k,
-Potting soil mixed with perlite
The main problem with soil tends to be, has way too many ferts, too watered down (soil is not drainable), not right soil(dirt)
You'll do fine man, at least your concerned with it, unlike some
HAPPY SMOKING TO EVERYONE
crippledguy
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well stated mystery +rep for you!
GrowSpecialist
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You misunderstood me there. I absolutely care about ingredients that should be mixed into soil. The reason why I'm not interested in hearing about it is because I already know all about that part. My only question is whats the best base soil for seedlings. Thanks for your post.
GrowSpecialist
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Good post. Thank you.Ocean Forest Light Warrior CAN be used for seedlings alone.. IT HAS ALL THE NUTRIETS NEEDED (not too high, but organic nutes) and is AIRY.
This means YOUR SEEDLINGS will NOT get burned.
Although the light warrior is not redely availible YOU CAN find your own mix.
PERLITE is a must use if your trying to get "regular" soil up to par. Just make sure the npk values are right. 70-30/50-50 depending on your preference.
"yea the ocean forest but not the light warrior or the potting soil"
-not sure what he's talking about. Potting soil is a must instead of cheap dirt..Just make sure its GOOD potting soil. Ocean Forest is best for plants >3weeks.
Ocean Forest will burn seedlings. Light warrior will not.
SEEDLINGS
-Not heavy on ferts
-Needs to be airy
-Perlite is good/but optional
>3weeks
-Ocean Forest/Happy Frog/Mostly anything where in NPK, N is higher then p+k,
-Potting soil mixed with perlite
The main problem with soil tends to be, has way too many ferts, too watered down (soil is not drainable), not right soil(dirt)
You'll do fine man, at least your concerned with it, unlike some
HAPPY SMOKING TO EVERYONE
Zhu
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I been using the mg time release stuff for over a year because its super cheap and have never had the nute problems ppl have had on here with it. I am pretty sure its because I always use jiffy pucks or rapid rooters instead of placing the seed directly into the soil. Also on the first watering of the soil I massacre it till almost 25% comes out the bottom.