the consequences of gay marriage

UncleBuck said:

i wonder why he thinks it would be unfair if the child chooses to be gay.

is they kid who decided to be gay hurting anyone by choosing to be gay, or is society hurting that id by attaching a stigma to his sexual orientation?

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I have no idea why anyone has a problem with it. Except that it's a vestigial cultural bias derived from religion. It's an ancient semitic tribal taboo that has run it's course.

You are to blame for this Childhood Abuse.

UncleBuck said:

i can not remember making any decision about whether to be gay or straight as well.

not a single straight person i have asked can tell me when they DECIDED to be straight.

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yeah.

thought about it later, grown up (and maybe bit in latter teenagedom)
but never any actual sexual feelings.

The Cryptkeeper said:

Together, yes. I understand you don't, that's why I apologized for your lack of comprehension.

Can we conceive babies without sex? Yes. Are we supposed to? Debatable. I'm not here to debate, I'm here to say that you wouldn't be alive unless a man's sperm entered a woman's vagina. Why does a man have a penis? To deliver semen into a woman's vagina. What is this 5th grade Sex Ed? Do you think you could to conceive a child by fooling around with your boyfriend? I doubt you do. Do you think you could conceive a child by fooling around with a woman? I'm sure you do.

I'm saying the only reason you're alive, the only we are all alive, is because of straight ancestors.

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yay for straight ancestors then?

the amount of time i have spent trying to decipher your posts in this thread almost negate the time you saved me in the other one.

The Ruiner said:

Are you joking? In both empires it was common place to have numerous gay lovers, and even domestic partners. Marriage was fine, people still had children, and the Spartans still defeated Xerxes.

You are implying that if gays are given freedom of choice that somehow other people will lose their choice to not be gay. It doesn't make sense, unless you are a homophobe.

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What I find amusing is the fact that the only army able to defeat the Spartans during their prime was the Sacred Band of Thebes. An all gay army.

RawBudzski said:

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You are to blame for this Childhood Abuse.

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oh, raw.

you trollin' now

The Cryptkeeper said:

Together, yes. I understand you don't, that's why I apologized for your lack of comprehension.

Can we conceive babies without sex? Yes. Are we supposed to? Debatable. I'm not here to debate, I'm here to say that you wouldn't be alive unless a man's sperm entered a woman's vagina. Why does a man have a penis? To deliver semen into a woman's vagina. What is this 5th grade Sex Ed? Do you think you could to conceive a child by fooling around with your boyfriend? I doubt you do. Do you think you could conceive a child by fooling around with a woman? I'm sure you do.

I'm saying the only reason you're alive, the only we are all alive, is because of straight ancestors.

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Still not seeing your point. Straight couples produce gay offspring. How do you explain gay coupling among numerous species all over the earth? What does procreation have to do with this debate?

What happened to Jackanape?

Carne Seca said:

Still not seeing your point. Straight couples produce gay offspring. How do you explain gay coupling among numerous species all over the earth? What does procreation have to do with this debate?

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I'm not involved in this debate as a whole, just answering your one question.

"What is the evidence that people are born straight?"

There is only one immutable piece of evidence for it, the species wouldn't exist without straight sex.

Carne Seca said:

I have no idea why anyone has a problem with it. Except that it's a vestigial cultural bias derived from religion. It's an ancient semitic tribal taboo that has run it's course.

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hmm,

well, today its kinda a bonus if a lot of people are gay.

10 billion and still counting, fast not really a problem, yet. but it might become one.

Maybe, just maybe, its because gay people often look so happy and the gayhaters arent.

nothing but gay´s on television, all the cool cats are gay lol (or dressed by gays)

one might start to think the gay´s are actually better people.

lol. hehehehe (happily married to a woman btw ) i actually do like, better, people around

not that all of the gay guys ive met were "better" people, one was a idiot and the other a psychopathic murderer lol, but quite alot of them i would never have known they were gay (or cared to know, i aint gonna fuckem)

or liked just fine

its like that dougie howser dude, whatsis name on how i met your mother.

always just thought he was a cool cat. funny and likable, then he came out and i was bit, oh he´s gay, oh yeah, i see it now.
still think he´s pretty great and funny playing a straight hounddog (well, considering its a every week soapfunny)

damn cool in that whitecastle movie too.

Once again I do not think you guys get that it is a new day @ age, & bringing up what may have worked for some ancient civ.. is kind of pointless.. Beheadings have worked well as capital punishment in the middle east since the dark ages, fast, cheap , effective.. Yet us silly americans are wasting money on Chemicals & electricity to get it done.. Pfft. We need to look back on history more & see how they made it work.

Carne Seca said:

What I find amusing is the fact that the only army able to defeat the Spartans during their primes was the Sacred Band of Thebes. An all gay army.

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The Cryptkeeper said:

I'm not involved in this debate as a whole, just answering your one question.

"What is the evidence that people are born straight?"

There is only one immutable piece of evidence for it, the species wouldn't exist without straight sex.

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gay people can have straight sex.

gay vs. straight is not a bifurcation, it is a spectrum.

thus rendering your argument invalid.

afraid of turning gay?

picture a dick, now picture it in your ass or mouth or hand.

does that turn you on?

if not, then you arent gay

The Cryptkeeper said:

I'm not involved in this debate as a whole, just answering your one question.

"What is the evidence that people are born straight?"

There is only one immutable piece of evidence for it, the species wouldn't exist without straight sex.

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How is that answering my question? The question was regarding choice. People don't choose to be straight any more than they choose to be gay. it's hardwired. Sexual intercourse doesn't occur until sexual maturity. So once again, what is the evidence that people are BORN straight.

I think people Were Born Straight.. & as Man became more Lazy & Spoiled they decided to Fk one another than go out & get a female.. that is what happened.. Evolution @ its worst.. Darwins Survival of the Fittest & Evolutions Mutations are @ a cross road.

The Cryptkeeper said:

I'm not involved in this debate as a whole, just answering your one question.

"What is the evidence that people are born straight?"

There is only one immutable piece of evidence for it, the species wouldn't exist without straight sex.

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UncleBuck said:

gay people can have straight sex.

gay vs. straight is not a bifurcation, it is a spectrum.

thus rendering your argument invalid.

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I'm NOT talking about gay people here. x( I know this isn't in line with the main topic as I've said before. I'm answering the question of what is the evidence of people being born straight. Rendering all arguments invalid!

RawBudzski said:

Once again I do not think you guys get that it is a new day @ age, & bringing up what may have worked for some ancient civ.. is kind of pointless.. Beheadings have worked well as capital punishment in the middle east since the dark ages, fast, cheap , effective.. Yet us silly americans are wasting money on Chemicals & electricity to get it done.. Pfft. We need to look back on history more & see how they made it work.

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So...we should look back for somethings and not others? Selective much?

the cryptkeeper said:

Together, yes. i understand you don't, that's why i apologized for your lack of comprehension.

Can we conceive babies without sex? Yes. Are we supposed to? Debatable. I'm not here to debate, i'm here to say that you wouldn't be alive unless a man's sperm entered a woman's vagina. Why does a man have a penis? To deliver semen into a woman's vagina. What is this 5th grade sex ed? do you think you could conceive a child by fooling around with your boyfriend? I doubt you do. Do you think you could conceive a child by fooling around with a woman? I'm sure you do.

I'm saying the only reason you're alive, the only reason we are all alive, is because of straight ancestors.

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dont fuck with carne.......he could kick your ass...then take it.....

Carne Seca said:

How is that answering my question? The question was regarding choice. People don't choose to be straight any more than they choose to be gay. it's hardwired. Sexual intercourse doesn't occur until sexual maturity. So once again, what is the evidence that people are BORN straight.

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They have sexual organs that were created for non-gay sex.

DSB65 said:

dont fuck with carne.......he could kick your ass...then take it.....

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Stop deflecting your desires onto me. x(