The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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I haven't spoken to one farmer that isn't a fan. Maybe you just mad.
Have you actually spoken to farmers? They are not as stupid as you and your buddies and have brains enough to know when someone is an idiot and when someone is screwing them. As for Trumpers, after the midterms nobody is gonna give a shit what passes through yer mind, I won't even dignify it as thinking. Nobody likes a traitor and if you don't demonstrate loyalty to the country and constitution nobody is gonna support you but morons and they are not a majority. Just 2 months to find out for sure though.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I agree 2024! Leftist loosing their mind for another 6yrs! Economy is booming! MAGA
The economy is booming (don't forget to say thank you to Obama now) for the 1% and Wall St (GOP tax cuts for the 1%), everybody else not so much. It's not about left or right, but about right versus wrong, know the difference sock puppet? I'll make even clearer, it's about treason versus patriotism, what side are you on, Uncle Sam's or Putin's?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is gonna drive Trump nuts, look for a Twit shit in the near future. It's revolt from within the WH, Trump is too big an asshole to deal with, the heat is on and Donald is losing what's left of his twisted mind. Sure hope Mattis has left informal standing orders about the nuclear launch codes and gave the guys with the footballs tasers and tranquilizer shots they can use on the POTUS etc. It would be simpler just to give him a biscuit with the wrong codes though. I wonder does the national security team have a plan for when Trump flips out. A good question to ask below.
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I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
 
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Ripped Farmer

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Have you actually spoken to farmers? They are not as stupid as you and your buddies and have brains enough to know when someone is an idiot and when someone is screwing them. As for Trumpers, after the midterms nobody is gonna give a shit what passes through yer mind, I won't even dignify it as thinking. Nobody likes a traitor and if you don't demonstrate loyalty to the country and constitution nobody is gonna support you but morons and they are not a majority. Just 2 months to find out for sure though.

Yup, yer mad.

I live in the country, surrounded by many farmers. They love them some Trump.

MAGA
 

Ripped Farmer

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I agree 2024! Leftist loosing their mind for another 6yrs! Economy is booming! MAGA

Them losing their minds over it is just added comedy.

Economy is booming and we are killing it right along with. They are too busy being worried about plastic straws and smashing Trumps star.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Them losing their minds over it is just added comedy.

Economy is booming and we are killing it right along with. They are too busy being worried about plastic straws and smashing Trumps star.
Your talking to your sock puppet and completely divorced from reality like Trump, have a look at the real news today for fuck sakes and try real hard to catch a clue. I wouldn't worry about getting the "liberals", it's the conservatives surrounding Trump in the WH who are panicking, freaking out, calling him an idiot and trying to save the country from this moronic traitor.
 

UncleBuck

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Them losing their minds over it is just added comedy.

Economy is booming and we are killing it right along with. They are too busy being worried about plastic straws and smashing Trumps star.
The economy is shit

Wages are falling, healthcare and gas and food and rents are skyrocketing, the market is stagnant for 7 months now, and the job numbers are the worst since 2011
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This Is a Constitutional Crisis
A cowardly coup from within the administration threatens to inflame the president’s paranoia and further endanger American security.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/

David Frum
Staff writer at The Atlantic

Impeachment is a constitutional mechanism. The Twenty-Fifth Amendment is a constitutional mechanism. Mass resignations followed by voluntary testimony to congressional committees are a constitutional mechanism. Overt defiance of presidential authority by the president’s own appointees—now that’s a constitutional crisis.

If the president’s closest advisers believe that he is morally and intellectually unfit for his high office, they have a duty to do their utmost to remove him from it, by the lawful means at hand. That duty may be risky to their careers in government or afterward. But on their first day at work, they swore an oath to defend the Constitution—and there were no “riskiness” exemptions in the text of that oath.

On Wednesday, though, a “senior official in the Trump administration” published an anonymous op-ed in The New York Times, writing:

Many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. I would know. I am one of them.

The author of the anonymous op-ed is hoping to vindicate the reputation of like-minded senior Trump staffers. See, we only look complicit! Actually, we’re the real heroes of the story.

But what the author has just done is throw the government of the United States into even more dangerous turmoil. He or she has enflamed the paranoia of the president and empowered the president’s willfulness.

What happens the next time a staffer seeks to dissuade the president from, say, purging the Justice Department to shut down the Mueller investigation? The author of the Times op-ed has explicitly told the president that those who offer such advice do not have the president’s best interests at heart, and are, in fact, actively subverting his best interests as he understands them on behalf of ideas of their own.

He’ll grow more defiant, more reckless, more anti-constitutional, and more dangerous.

And those who do not quit or are not fired in the next few days will have to work even more assiduously to prove themselves loyal, obedient, and on the team. Things will be worse after this piece. They will be worse because of this piece.

The new Bob Woodward book set the bad precedent. The high official who thought the president so addled that he would not remember the paper he snatched off his desk? Those who thought the president stupid, ignorant, beholden to Russia—and then exited the administration to return to their comfortable, lucrative occupations? Who substituted deep-background gripe sessions with a reporter for offering detailed proof of presidential unfitness, or worse, before the House or Senate? Yes, better than the robotic servility of the public record. But only slightly.


What would be better?

Speak in your own name. Resign in a way that will count. Present the evidence that will justify an invocation of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, or an impeachment, or at the very least, the first necessary step toward either outcome, a Democratic Congress after the November elections.

Your service in government is valuable. Thank you for it. But it is not so indispensable that it can compensate for the continuing tenure of a president you believe to be amoral, untruthful, irrational, antidemocratic, unpatriotic, and dangerous. Previous generations of Americans have sacrificed fortunes, health, and lives to serve the country. You are asked only to tell the truth aloud and with your name attached.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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594 days of the Trump administration and he's struggling to make day 600 even the with extraordinary help from the GOP, with a functioning congress he wouldn't have made it 60 days. He should never have been sworn in as POTUS, the main failure was with the electoral college it's purpose was to keep the likes of Trump out of office, that's why the US doesn't have direct presidential elections. It might be time to get rid of the electoral college or reform it and say only qualified psychiatrists or other mental health professionals would be nominated to it. Prospective POTUS should be required to be examined by a reformed electoral college. It might be easier to reform the electoral college and make it useful, than to get rid of it with constitutional changes.

The POTUS controls nuclear weapons...
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Here is the full NYTimes Op-ed
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I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
Sept. 5, 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I dont know a lot of US laws. How could possibly Trump be out ? Who can decide this ?
The house of representatives would impeach him, then the senate presided over by the chief justice of the SCOTUS would have to vote by a 2/3 majority to convict. Vice President Pence would be sworn in and Trump is out of office and in jail or a nuthouse. It could happen in hours, if there were the political will, but with the midterm elections 2 months away, Donald will probably be allowed to run wild for a spell.

It won't be good for the republicans to have Donald thrashing around squirming and squealing during the election campaign, they are already behind in the polls and this ain't helping.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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These retards would back trump no matter what. Unless they get hit too bad. Trumpeters are hilarious.
Wonder what they think of the news over the past couple of days, if Trump continues the trade wars they are gonna get it in the ass, justice I guess there's a price to be paid for stupidity. I think a silent majority of farmers are gonna jump ship on the GOP this time around, especially if Trump continues the trade war bullshit, American agriculture is gonna get hit real hard.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A Damning Op-Ed Distracts Trump From A Damning Book
Trump is fuming Bob Woodward's new book, an anonymous op-ed in the New York Times, and probably other things that we'll learn later in future books and anonymous op-eds.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump's job approval is down to 36% and the polls don't factor in the news from the last couple of days, the GOP congress must be about to panic. They are in for one Helluva ride to the midterms with Donald at the wheel, 60 days to go until the election.
 

Herb & Suds

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Trump's job approval is down to 36% and the polls don't factor in the news from the last couple of days, the GOP congress must be about to panic. They are in for one Helluva ride to the midterms with Donald at the wheel, 60 days to go until the election.
VOTE like your life depends on it , for it does !
 
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