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Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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SSGrower said:
I sucked at cloning, then I got one of these:
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I still suck at cloning,
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and have small testicles, uhm, I mean clones.
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They don't tell you this, but.....the immersion pump puts out a lot of heat, warms the water too much. So the cloner must be in a cool place or have a means of cooling down the water. I can't use mine between May-Oct, if I use ice packs I sometimes can get May and middle June and Oct, nada July-Sept. Then I have to clone the old fashioned way in media.
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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Singlemalt said:
They don't tell you this, but.....the immersion pump puts out a lot of heat, warms the water too much. So the cloner must be in a cool place or have a means of cooling down the water. I can't use mine between May-Oct, if I use ice packs I sometimes can get May and middle June and Oct, nada July-Sept. Then I have to clone the old fashioned way in media.
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Same experience here, heat is my limiting factor.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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I've been cloning in a similar manner to dangledo.
I use shot glasses that sit in pairs in a larger glass for stability and change the water every 2 or 3 days. I mist them daily away from the light keeping them 44" from a 400w air cooled MH running 17/7.
I haven't tried moving them to soil as soon as the bumps show up. I'm going to have to try that.

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SSGrower

SSGrower

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curious2garden said:
Same experience here, heat is my limiting factor.
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Singlemalt said:
They don't tell you this, but.....the immersion pump puts out a lot of heat, warms the water too much. So the cloner must be in a cool place or have a means of cooling down the water. I can't use mine between May-Oct, if I use ice packs I sometimes can get May and middle June and Oct, nada July-Sept. Then I have to clone the old fashioned way in media.
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First time using it I noticed I was about 10 deg higher than desired, tried running pump on timer, 50% duty cycle wasnt enough and cuttings started wilting. Thinking about a remote reservoir, but 95% success rate with it as is.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
those are some sizable clones, you have better luck with them that large? i've been having cloning trouble...maybe i'm just not cutting them big enough..
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I cut them really large because they usually go straight from cloner to flower. Because they normally have zero veg time, larger cuttings produce larger and more profitable plants, though any size can root. Mine are aerocloners, and I use Dip-n-Grow root stimulator, and the warm water from the pump actually speeds up the cloning provided that the water doesn't get above 87f or so to cook them. The reason my clones can withstand high water temps is that I use calcium hypochlorite in my cloners, also known as pool shock. Same thing one puts in their jacuzzi to keep the nasties from breeding in that warm water. Before using the shock, I could only clone in cooler temperatures, now I can clone year round. Total game changer for me. Virtually maintenance free cloning for lazy stoners like myself...
 
Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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tyler.durden said:
I cut them really large because they usually go straight from cloner to flower. Because they normally have zero veg time, larger cuttings produce larger and more profitable plants, though any size can root. Mine are aerocloners, and I use Dip-n-Grow root stimulator, and the warm water from the pump actually speeds up the cloning provided that the water doesn't get above 87f or so to cook them. The reason my clones can withstand high water temps is that I use calcium hypochlorite in my cloners, also known as pool shock. Same thing one puts in their jacuzzi to keep the nasties from breeding in that warm water. Before using the shock, I could only clone in cooler temperatures, now I can clone year round. Total game changer for me. Virtually maintenance free cloning for lazy stoners like myself...
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You use the pool shock while cloning? At what rate?
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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curious2garden

curious2garden

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tyler.durden said:
I cut them really large because they usually go straight from cloner to flower. Because they normally have zero veg time, larger cuttings produce larger and more profitable plants, though any size can root. Mine are aerocloners, and I use Dip-n-Grow root stimulator, and the warm water from the pump actually speeds up the cloning provided that the water doesn't get above 87f or so to cook them. The reason my clones can withstand high water temps is that I use calcium hypochlorite in my cloners, also known as pool shock. Same thing one puts in their jacuzzi to keep the nasties from breeding in that warm water. Before using the shock, I could only clone in cooler temperatures, now I can clone year round. Total game changer for me. Virtually maintenance free cloning for lazy stoners like myself...
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Thanks, I'll do that. Hope it will make the difference. Our tap water out here uses chlorine and I never thought about adding more.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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curious2garden said:
That would make sense in a well. I'm going to try pool shock this summer. God knows I have tons of that shit laying around. It would be nice if it worked but once I'm over 90 in the cloner I doubt love or money will help. I need a chiller LOL
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Yep. 90f will turn clones to mush whether the water is sterile or not. If your cloner is in an environment that is less than 78f, you should be able to keep the water below 88f, which is fine with the pool shock. I find it helps to put the cloner on concrete or a large cooling rack with a small pc fan blowing on it. In doing the latter I was able to keep my water at 86f in an 80f room. A cycle timer with 5 minutes off and one minute on keeps the water only 1 or 2 degrees warmer than the ambient air temp. I sometimes use the cheap panda timers from ebay, they work great...
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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tyler.durden said:
Yep. 90f will turn clones to mush whether the water is sterile or not. If your cloner is in an environment that is less than 78f, you should be able to keep the water below 88f, which is fine with the pool shock. I find it helps to put the cloner on concrete or a large cooling rack with a small pc fan blowing on it. In doing the latter I was able to keep my water at 86f in an 80f room. A cycle timer with 5 minutes off and one minute on keeps the water only 1 or 2 degrees warmer than the ambient air temp. I sometimes use the cheap panda timers from ebay, they work great...
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That's why I didn't bother with a cycle timer, the inside of my house in the summer is an easy 96. However now that I'm using a swamp cooler I may try a cycle timer and see if that will work.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
tyler.durden said:
Yep. 90f will turn clones to mush whether the water is sterile or not. If your cloner is in an environment that is less than 78f, you should be able to keep the water below 88f, which is fine with the pool shock. I find it helps to put the cloner on concrete or a large cooling rack with a small pc fan blowing on it. In doing the latter I was able to keep my water at 86f in an 80f room. A cycle timer with 5 minutes off and one minute on keeps the water only 1 or 2 degrees warmer than the ambient air temp. I sometimes use the cheap panda timers from ebay, they work great...
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Why would one wish to time a cheap panda?
 
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