The Dons' Organic Garden

Vnsmkr said:
Just for fun? What experimenting? I think that layer you want would be naturally closer to the top though in nature that layer is dynamic isn't it....
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yes definitely. fungal hyphae like to be at the top because that is where the decomp is going on that they are feeding on in nature. though they can absolutely have an endo/ecto relationship with the right species of fungus and plant at the same time i'm sure. the thing you have to figure out DT... as i'm sure you know, fungi can consume food sources very quickly and very thoroughly. i guess i'm just not sure what kind of fungi you're trying to inoculate into this grow bed!
 
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honestly from my mushroom picking experience... fungus that i seek often have a relationship with living trees/plants, so IMO there wouldn't be much of a ph difference in the fungal layer and the soil, but again, i think it depends on your species and food source for the fungi... and what your goal for the fungus is. sorry didn't mean to just butt in like that, i'm just a mushroom guy lol. i love hunting and eating wild ones!
 
Forgot to mention, got another thread in the outdoor section, very early stages, but have a look please. Feeding with fish hydroslate, coconut water, fresh aloe, uncoventionalfarmer recipes, & em. Soil is a local mix of peat based organic and a mix of local humus (with a kick like my supercharged coconut oil hummus that I fkn eat :))

https://www.rollitup.org/t/rooftop-se-asia.884140/
 
ShLUbY said:
honestly from my mushroom picking experience... fungus that i seek often have a relationship with living trees/plants, so IMO there wouldn't be much of a ph difference in the fungal layer and the soil, but again, i think it depends on your species and food source for the fungi... and what your goal for the fungus is. sorry didn't mean to just butt in like that, i'm just a mushroom guy lol. i love hunting and eating wild ones!
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I agree, and obviously YOU have been paying attention eh?
 
ShLUbY said:
honestly from my mushroom picking experience... fungus that i seek often have a relationship with living trees/plants, so IMO there wouldn't be much of a ph difference in the fungal layer and the soil, but again, i think it depends on your species and food source for the fungi... and what your goal for the fungus is. sorry didn't mean to just butt in like that, i'm just a mushroom guy lol. i love hunting and eating wild ones!
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fungus/fungi/living soil/plants/EVERYTHING in a sense is connected. balance is the key
 
DonPetro said:
@DonTesla i wonder how plants would react entering and growing through a "fungal layer"? Would the swings in pH have adverse affects?
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I hear you.. i was picturing 4 cylinder shaped soil zones in the corners that house the tap roots from top to bottom, maybe smart pot fabric.. Na mean... So its like a reverse spike of fungi, for the roots to tap into as they please..

I should research fungi more, draw this out in a lil sketch, and seriously consider a tinted dome on top instead. Or maybe say fuck it and just start growing micro greens.. I'm a bit jealous of the dude who sells his organic micro greens to fancy restaurants..
 
DonTesla said:
I hear you.. i was picturing 4 cylinder shaped soil zones in the corners that house the tap roots from top to bottom, maybe smart pot fabric.. Na mean... So its like a reverse spike of fungi, for the roots to tap into as they please..

I should research fungi more, draw this out in a lil sketch, and seriously consider a tinted dome on top instead. Or maybe say fuck it and just start growing micro greens.. I'm a bit jealous of the dude who sells his organic micro greens to fancy restaurants..
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my next no till mixes will have micro greens. I'm also going transforming the quarantine room i cleaned up right now for a few cuts i received from someone, into a garden for myself this winter. I'm thinking about putting a 4x3 garden bed in there where i will grow all my lettuce, spinach, kale, chard, and other stuff so i dont have to buy the crap from the store this winter. been so nice not having to buy greens and i don't want to go back to doing it!

as for the fungus... you gotta understand that mycelium can go for miles and miles. IE: Black morel mycelium, as i understand it, is the largest living organism on the planet. imagine acres upon acres upon acres of forest that has morel mycelium woven all through the soil going from tree root to tree root, endlessly in all directions, and boom; forest fire. the trees that perish in the fire will also lead to the death of the mycelium of that tree. next season is the most bountiful morel harvest you ever saw in your life. mushrooms spread hundreds of thousands of spores per mushroom to be carried by the wind to a new habitat and start the cycle over. I'm sure you know of this already though DT, you strike me as a knowledgeable guy.

i have a hard time imagining that the fungus is going to stay in any container that it can grow hyphae through, unless you have a good food stock in those containers for it. and if there is any food source in that no till bed for it, it's going to consume it. maybe that will be taking away from your bacteria food stock.... IDK to tell you the truth. I need to research these endo/ecto strains that the grow companies are selling us and see wtf it is they are feeding on in our mixes... i mean honestly, and they do this all the time, they could be selling us a gimmick... you know?

VTMi'kmaq said:
I agree, and obviously YOU have been paying attention eh?
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I have been paying attention! shrooms are my thing. i have been harvesting wild shrooms for about 5 years now and it never gets old! the mosquitos get annoying though... lol
 
may as well admit to you guys i had incurred a serious head injury during my service to this asshat mass of land called merika! So i am CONSTANTLY coming back to old threads to remind myself of things i HAVE forgotten. Could you imagine reading a thread throughout (75 pages at last count in this thread) then realizing about a month later youve forgotten ALMOST 95 % of what you wanted to retain? I have to "start over" sometimes so ya gotta be able to understand/appreciate how much i love cannabis, my wife laughs at me, says it's the taurus in me that REFUSES to give in, i say it's the better half of me(first nations lennox island mi'kmaq) and knowing that giving in is like quitting to me, i can't handle quitting anything at this stage of my life. So i wanna thankyou guys for keeping this thread thriving!
 
VTMi'kmaq said:
may as well admit to you guys i had incurred a serious head injury during my service to this asshat mass of land called merika! So i am CONSTANTLY coming back to old threads to remind myself of things i HAVE forgotten. Could you imagine reading a thread throughout (75 pages at last count in this thread) then realizing about a month later youve forgotten ALMOST 95 % of what you wanted to retain? I have to "start over" sometimes so ya gotta be able to understand/appreciate how much i love cannabis, my wife laughs at me, says it's the taurus in me that REFUSES to give in, i say it's the better half of me(first nations lennox island mi'kmaq) and knowing that giving in is like quitting to me, i can't handle quitting anything at this stage of my life. So i wanna thankyou guys for keeping this thread thriving!
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Thats some great words right there.
VTMi'kmaq said:
I got a bale of sunshine mix #4 leftover, any thoughts on what i could use it for?
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Make a living soil! Throw in some composted cow manure, worm castings and aeration material. Add your amendments and let her mellow for three weeks. Grow some indoor veggies!
 
Vnsmkr said:
Just for fun? What experimenting? I think that layer you want would be naturally closer to the top though in nature that layer is dynamic isn't it....
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I try stumble upon things that might improve our outcomes, that's all..

I've noticed intense colour changes with colder air temps and water temps leading up to harvest..

Since the plants stay alive for 3 days and continue metabolizing if kept above 45% humidity then I figured you could have em like a bouquet of roses, and increase the coldness of the water progressively as you reach that 72 hour mark..

Maybe get some crazy blues and purples to pop..

I will try this with my next plant I think.

Good inputs on the mycelium tho...love the thread mon

That said,
I wonder what the preferred food source is for myco fungi, other than roots..
 
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