The Dons' Organic Garden

CaptainSnap

CaptainSnap

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Its a good point Don that there isn't much we can do other than to educate ourselves! Which is something I hope never ends for me. As I'm sure it will never end with most people in these forums!! Garden is looking good as usual Don! Happy Spring
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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I go to school 200 miles away from my home, and bring RO water with me every week lol. the city i go to school in has no doubt the worst tasting city water i've ever had... sad. The greenhouse on campus has horrible pH issues with their soiless mediums... derp! They're letting me run a couple no-till beds in the greenhouse so i can show them how its done :) . we have RO water on site. Here are my two beds... I have stuff to mix up another one as soon as they let me lol. Gonna start some lettuce seeds for them this week in starter size plugs of my soil!

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Stinky_Jones

Stinky_Jones

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Hey there, @DonTesla! I'll fire up an OPG grow journal because those kids are just filling out daily, but in the mean time I need to go back a couple hundred pages and start from the beginning. I had no idea all the JEC chat was over here.
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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DonTesla said:
Pleasure, Snap,

What could we do to rebel, tho friend... other than.. educate each other,
Collect Rain, snow, use RO, find aquifers, unadulterated wells..
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I don't agree with ro, I think the carbon footprint is huge, specially if you are running treated tap water through it. RO membrane filters need manufacturing, perhaps we should strive to keep our waters free from pollution in the first place?
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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SSGrower said:
I don't agree with ro, I think the carbon footprint is huge, specially if you are running treated tap water through it. RO membrane filters need manufacturing, perhaps we should strive to keep our waters free from pollution in the first place?
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easier said than done. as Don pointed out, the water is not the issue, it's the distribution process and infrastructure... not to mention they're recycling water that goes back to the filtration plants... so the waste water from RO does get reused if you're in a city setting... the carbon footprint you create from RO is so little compared to the magnitude of shit that needs processed from waste waters from industry. Also, sometimes the mineral of water from wells and other ground sources is just too high of TDS and creates variables in your grow that can be easily avoided by filtration. keeping water free from pollution in the current climate of industrialization and urbanization is utterly impossible...

one thing i think is funny is that we are concerned about keeping our carbon footprint as low as possible, as individuals of society, which is a good thing... but the footprint of industry is orders of magnitude greater than all of us combined, and they're the ones that we should be targeting to a greater extent to reduce carbon footprints. But in order to get that change to happen... we can only affect change through the market. By choosing to spend our dollars to a particular cause/product, that is the way we can induce change at a faster pace. your dollars are like a vote you cast every time you buy something.
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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ShLUbY said:
easier said than done. as Don pointed out, the water is not the issue, it's the distribution process and infrastructure... not to mention they're recycling water that goes back to the filtration plants... so the waste water from RO does get reused if you're in a city setting... the carbon footprint you create from RO is so little compared to the magnitude of shit that needs processed from waste waters from industry. Also, sometimes the mineral of water from wells and other ground sources is just too high of TDS and creates variables in your grow that can be easily avoided by filtration. keeping water free from pollution in the current climate of industrialization and urbanization is utterly impossible...

one thing i think is funny is that we are concerned about keeping our carbon footprint as low as possible, as individuals of society, which is a good thing... but the footprint of industry is orders of magnitude greater than all of us combined, and they're the ones that we should be targeting to a greater extent to reduce carbon footprints. But in order to get that change to happen... we can only affect change through the market. By choosing to spend our dollars to a particular cause/product, that is the way we can induce change at a faster pace. your dollars are like a vote you cast every time you buy something.
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Absolutely agree 100pct. Of course the problems are more complicated than I make them out to be I hope that is why you choose to go to school and study what you do. I have a particulate filter on my house for the reasons you state and no I don't fell hypocritcal with my statement about ro. Though the filter prevents my toilet from being orange, I actually belive my garden handeled it just fine. Water quality certainly is an issue for agriculture as you say needs to be addressed at the source. Even if there is a viable ro solution for agricultre, we need to be addressing the problem differently is what I am saying. We are not going to get any new water and are misusing the resource.

Max respect to you shlub, complicated problems need brilliant minds.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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SSGrower said:
Absolutely agree 100pct. Of course the problems are more complicated than I make them out to be I hope that is why you choose to go to school and study what you do. I have a particulate filter on my house for the reasons you state and no I don't fell hypocritcal with my statement about ro. Though the filter prevents my toilet from being orange, I actually belive my garden handeled it just fine. Water quality certainly is an issue for agriculture as you say needs to be addressed at the source. Even if there is a viable ro solution for agricultre, we need to be addressing the problem differently is what I am saying. We are not going to get any new water and are misusing the resource.

Max respect to you shlub, complicated problems need brilliant minds.
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exactly why i'm going to school, but honestly... school has been rather disappointing and monotonous. there is such a disconnect between the classroom and the real world at this university... i know it's not like that at every university, but this one i have concluded that is the case (and a few of my professors agree 100%). but yeah definitely agree with you, the problems are not being addressed properly because they are "too costly" to change... but the higher cost is paid when we start losing diversity on the planet like we are experiencing... and unfortunately we as a species tend to wait until shit HAS to be changed before we change it lol. so the damage is done and it takes decades or centuries to undo. in a few hundred years the future generations will look back and say "how did they live like this??" lol. hopefully shit will get sorted out by then haha.

and thanks for the respect but honestly none is needed... i am by no means a brilliant mind! i will work for the people with brilliant minds hahahaha. i'm fine with that :)
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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Stinky_Jones said:
Hey there, @DonTesla! I'll fire up an OPG grow journal because those kids are just filling out daily, but in the mean time I need to go back a couple hundred pages and start from the beginning. I had no idea all the JEC chat was over here.
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Super happy to have you around here, brother..

and man.. cannot wait for that journal!!

make yourself at home here eh!
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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CaptainSnap said:
Its a good point Don that there isn't much we can do other than to educate ourselves! Which is something I hope never ends for me. As I'm sure it will never end with most people in these forums!! Garden is looking good as usual Don! Happy Spring
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Much love, Cap'n.. happy spring to you too, fack I love spring!

appreciate your presence and comments here... you're 100% on point, its up to us to communicate with and educate each other (and ourselves) for not much else can help an awareness issue, or lack thereof...

Growing heirlooms in living soil, should be in the curriculum
Same with soil building and water testing..and testing for nutrient density..

I felt robbed that I was in my 30's and was just learning about white watermelons and black / purple bell peppers... we should be 8 years old when we are intro'd to these things!!

But all it takes in one person in each family, or each crew, for good knowledge, good culture, good vibes to spread like cancer, but in a 100% positive way..

so its up to us.. its an organic and beautiful process ..
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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SSGrower said:
I don't agree with ro, I think the carbon footprint is huge, specially if you are running treated tap water through it. RO membrane filters need manufacturing, perhaps we should strive to keep our waters free from pollution in the first place?
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proactive solutions are always the best, you're right..

but..

ShLUbY said:
easier said than done. as Don pointed out, the water is not the issue, it's the distribution process and infrastructure... not to mention they're recycling water that goes back to the filtration plants... so the waste water from RO does get reused if you're in a city setting... the carbon footprint you create from RO is so little compared to the magnitude of shit that needs processed from waste waters from industry. Also, sometimes the mineral of water from wells and other ground sources is just too high of TDS and creates variables in your grow that can be easily avoided by filtration. keeping water free from pollution in the current climate of industrialization and urbanization is utterly impossible...

one thing i think is funny is that we are concerned about keeping our carbon footprint as low as possible, as individuals of society, which is a good thing... but the footprint of industry is orders of magnitude greater than all of us combined, and they're the ones that we should be targeting to a greater extent to reduce carbon footprints. But in order to get that change to happen... we can only affect change through the market. By choosing to spend our dollars to a particular cause/product, that is the way we can induce change at a faster pace. your dollars are like a vote you cast every time you buy something.
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but yea..
this is truth right here, we gotta vote with our dollars.. day in day out, week in week out.

buy less beef, drive electric, recycle, reuse, buy organic produce /heirlooms seeds / organic soil, etc.

The more we do this the more we announce our priorities and position as a society.. trends follow us, they watch the habits of people..
 
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giglewigle

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Both of the pgs have been above ground a few days now second set of teue leaves that look nice and green abit stretched gunna transplant into something a bit deeper tomorro I also germed 3 deep dreams like 2 days ago paper rowl method tjay germed really quick thay where left a bit 2 long some the tapmroot was stuk 2 the paper ans tjay where at the point of starting 2 shed the seed husk I did my best withnthem and have planted em im doing the deep dreams in a 500 ml container dorma challenge in tje aussie thread im funna take pics 2 morro I also have 2 sky walker og x nl x sky walker og x nl I dont jo witxh is pg and with is the sw og x nl lol there was one that looked like it had a bit of frost I thing thats the pg so dar im feeding them at 0.06 ex tjere in coco but it will be interesting 2 see how thay compare 2 the orfanic frown im sure orfanic frown all the way but I think it will still b good
 
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giglewigle

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one deep dream above ground now I think I can actually win with these thay germed 2 quick I tjink iv also figered out whats what between the sw og x nl and pgs 2 are lookingsativa and 2 look Iindica im anout 2 trans plant them a bit stretched id like 2 plant them into something deeper so im looking around might have 2 make some thing lol heres some pics pgs about a week in I think thay will take off once I transplant them into something better im not used 2 things going this gould so kinda left em a bit thay will ne fine ine transplanted but lol there's20180406_091100.jpg 20180406_090957.jpg some stretch
 
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giglewigle

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Ye nout 2 transplant 2 something deeper and move them closer just dont wanna jump the gun and im looking 4 the right size container cheers 4 the tip
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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giglewigle said:
Ye nout 2 transplant 2 something deeper and move them closer just dont wanna jump the gun and im looking 4 the right size container cheers 4 the tip
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just leave them be. they'll stand back up, i've seen it happen before. give them a few days
 
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