The Exotic Temptation of Mephedrone!

thehairyllama

thehairyllama

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All I said was she died two days later. I can read, Atleast I thought I could? I read that shit like 6 months ago. Understood it then and now. =D

Like I said, you should try it. You wont catch me saying nay.
 
DJBoxhouse

DJBoxhouse

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ugh...I stopped bothering to read after you stated your desire for spiritual growth through psychedelics. Let us step aside from the fact for a second that spirituality in itself is a broken and shattered concept with no barrings, I can assure you this is not what I am on about; Psychedelics are not a 'gateway' or enhancer for the thing you call 'spirituality.' It doesn't help you touch god or retain some let alone any form of enlightenment. It is a modifier not an enhancer, you can focus on things that already hold presence in a different light, but you are not casting a light on something that is present now that wasn't before.

Information doesn't change, how you process it changes. i.e. this topic is dumb - do the drug if you think it'd be an interesting perception to experience for however long the high lasts, but take it for exactly what it is and nothing else.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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ugh...I stopped bothering to read after you stated your desire for spiritual growth through psychedelics. Let us step aside from the fact for a second that spirituality in itself is a broken and shattered concept with no barrings, I can assure you this is not what I am on about; Psychedelics are not a 'gateway' or enhancer for the thing you call 'spirituality.' It doesn't help you touch god or retain some let alone any form of enlightenment. It is a modifier not an enhancer, you can focus on things that already hold presence in a different light, but you are not casting a light on something that is present now that wasn't before.

Information doesn't change, how you process it changes. i.e. this topic is dumb - do the drug if you think it'd be an interesting perception to experience for however long the high lasts, but take it for exactly what it is and nothing else.

I do have to commend you on those words. In previous times psychedelics were used as spiritual sacraments, but yest that method has been warped into more of a drug agenda. I agree partly... soon enough everything whether it opens emotions, is potentially harmful.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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But, DJBoxhouse do you have any views on mephredone.... or have you personal tried it yourself. The topic of this thread has nothing to do with spirituality... but the safety of this new compound. This is simply for HARM REDUCTION.
 
thehairyllama

thehairyllama

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DJBoxhouse said:
ugh...I stopped bothering to read after you stated your desire for spiritual growth through psychedelics. Let us step aside from the fact for a second that spirituality in itself is a broken and shattered concept with no barrings, I can assure you this is not what I am on about; Psychedelics are not a 'gateway' or enhancer for the thing you call 'spirituality.' It doesn't help you touch god or retain some let alone any form of enlightenment. It is a modifier not an enhancer, you can focus on things that already hold presence in a different light, but you are not casting a light on something that is present now that wasn't before.

Information doesn't change, how you process it changes. i.e. this topic is dumb - do the drug if you think it'd be an interesting perception to experience for however long the high lasts, but take it for exactly what it is and nothing else.
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Haddaway

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I think the dangers of this drug are there, as with ANY drug you abuse. And yes, 100% of the reports that report the bluing of knees and such (due to the vasoconstricton properties of stimulants not just mephedrone) are also the same people who are doing a gram+. My 2cents is to not ever go over 500mg in a period of two days, and you'll be fine. Also, some people are more vulnerable to vasoconstriction than others, so it is always good to walk on the side of caution. Here is a report of someone doing 7 grams in a period of 2 and a half days (they didnt sleep) http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107039 This person was female, and weighed around 150 pounds. She did experience bluish tints, and was quite shaken afterwards (but not seemingly permanent damage) If you scroll down there is also another report of someone doing 5 grams and she was apparently fine. She didn't even experience vasoconstriction, and didn't have any ill effects. I am not saying to EVER get anywhere close to these dosages, but I feel this shows that doing an occasional 500mg isn't a horrible thing to do. (when you could do much higher doses, which people do, and have no negative side effects) So I think I am sticking to never going past 500mg.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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Haddaway said:
I think the dangers of this drug are there, as with ANY drug you abuse. And yes, 100% of the reports that report the bluing of knees and such (due to the vasoconstricton properties of stimulants not just mephedrone) are also the same people who are doing a gram+. My 2cents is to not ever go over 500mg in a period of two days, and you'll be fine. Also, some people are more vulnerable to vasoconstriction than others, so it is always good to walk on the side of caution. Here is a report of someone doing 7 grams in a period of 2 and a half days (they didnt sleep) http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107039 This person was female, and weighed around 150 pounds. She did experience bluish tints, and was quite shaken afterwards (but not seemingly permanent damage) If you scroll down there is also another report of someone doing 5 grams and she was apparently fine. She didn't even experience vasoconstriction, and didn't have any ill effects. I am not saying to EVER get anywhere close to these dosages, but I feel this shows that doing an occasional 500mg isn't a horrible thing to do. (when you could do much higher doses, which people do, and have no negative side effects) So I think I am sticking to never going past 500mg.
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Thats good you did you're studying before buying this compound... and yes most people who did exhibit extreme after effects did overuse the product and took the ride near the edge of things!

But thats the problem with this compound, its so fiend like that it makes you want more and more.. much like cocaine! hell for a newbie, 1 gram of cocaine can kill you... thus know your mind, body, spirit!
 
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Haddaway

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ndangerspecimen101 said:
Thats good you did you're studying before buying this compound... and yes most people who did exhibit extreme after effects did overuse the product and took the ride near the edge of things!

But thats the problem with this compound, its so fiend like that it makes you want more and more.. much like cocaine! hell for a newbie, 1 gram of cocaine can kill you... thus know your mind, body, spirit!
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Extremely true. I am just very comfortable enough with myself (and have great faith in my self-control). Really with any drug (but especially the very addictive ones, this one included) there are going to be a plethora of dumbasses who don't give a shit about side effects and go out of control. These are the people who need to stop doing drugs, and talk a hard long look at themselves (or they're 16, you know what that's like, even though I was never like that at 16..) These are the people who ruin the time for the responsible, intelligent drug user. I find it very uncomforting that just because certain people can't handle drugs, there has to be such a negative connotation for ALL drug users, not just the people who really are causing the harm.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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Haddaway said:
Extremely true. I am just very comfortable enough with myself (and have great faith in my self-control). Really with any drug (but especially the very addictive ones, this one included) there are going to be a plethora of dumbasses who don't give a shit about side effects and go out of control. These are the people who need to stop doing drugs, and talk a hard long look at themselves (or they're 16, you know what that's like, even though I was never like that at 16..) These are the people who ruin the time for the responsible, intelligent drug user. I find it very uncomforting that just because certain people can't handle drugs, there has to be such a negative connotation for ALL drug users, not just the people who really are causing the harm.
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Thus spoke ZARATHRUSTA ;)
 
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StonedItaly

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Mephedrone...
Out of all the drugs in the world, this is the 2nd I hate the most (After Methamphetamine).

About a month ago, my brother was having a great birthday party when he made out with a girl who had a mephedrone pill in her mouth.
He had an epileptic attack and could not breathe, so they rushed him to an emergency room where they had give him all sorts of shit to sober him up..

Basically, he was that close to losing his life because of some bitch.. He talked to her the next day and she said "yeah well, next time don't kiss me"....

Then the cops came to his house to see if he had anything on him, but me and my bro are strictly weed tokers and luckily that day he was clean..

It pisses me off so much.. The person I love the most in this world nearly lost his life because of some fucking cunt.

IF YOU DICKHEADS WANT TO USE DRUGS THEN USE THEM, BUT DON'T GO DOSING OTHER PEOPLE.

:(
 
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Haddaway

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StonedItaly said:
Mephedrone...
Out of all the drugs in the world, this is the 2nd I hate the most (After Methamphetamine).

About a month ago, my brother was having a great birthday party when he made out with a girl who had a mephedrone pill in her mouth.
He had an epileptic attack and could not breathe, so they rushed him to an emergency room where they had give him all sorts of shit to sober him up..

Basically, he was that close to losing his life because of some bitch.. He talked to her the next day and she said "yeah well, next time don't kiss me"....

Then the cops came to his house to see if he had anything on him, but me and my bro are strictly weed tokers and luckily that day he was clean..

It pisses me off so much.. The person I love the most in this world nearly lost his life because of some fucking cunt.

IF YOU DICKHEADS WANT TO USE DRUGS THEN USE THEM, BUT DON'T GO DOSING OTHER PEOPLE.

:(
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I don't see how someone kissing someone with a mephedrone pill in their mouth would get ANY mephedrone in their mouth (and especially an amount that would cause a seizure..) I doubt even the whole pill would ever cause that..
 
tebor

tebor

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StonedItaly said:
Mephedrone...
Out of all the drugs in the world, this is the 2nd I hate the most (After Methamphetamine).

About a month ago, my brother was having a great birthday party when he made out with a girl who had a mephedrone pill in her mouth.
He had an epileptic attack and could not breathe, so they rushed him to an emergency room where they had give him all sorts of shit to sober him up..

Basically, he was that close to losing his life because of some bitch.. He talked to her the next day and she said "yeah well, next time don't kiss me"....

Then the cops came to his house to see if he had anything on him, but me and my bro are strictly weed tokers and luckily that day he was clean..

It pisses me off so much.. The person I love the most in this world nearly lost his life because of some fucking cunt.

IF YOU DICKHEADS WANT TO USE DRUGS THEN USE THEM, BUT DON'T GO DOSING OTHER PEOPLE.

:(
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your brother is a lightweight. what happened to the girl?
the moral of the story isnt about drugs but about not kissing strangers.

If your bro has the same attitude towards women as you, I have no sympathy for him, or you.
too bad he lived.:cry:
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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Harshness, harshness!

But the story you depicted to us seems a little off... but it all depends on the size of the capsule... a zero capsule would only be able to carry about 100mg of mephedrone which ain't that much! But a 00 capsule could well carry about 300mg which in one dose setting could cause a reaction to an individual, especially if they suffer from pre epilectic problems!

How do you know for sure that it was mephedrone?

I am not protecting the use of mephedrone, but its not best jumping the gun and narrowing out certain drugs until final drug test come back confirming it!
 
JimmyPot

JimmyPot

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tebor said:
your brother is a lightweight. what happened to the girl?
the moral of the story isnt about drugs but about not kissing strangers.

If your bro has the same attitude towards women as you, I have no sympathy for him, or you.
too bad he lived.:cry:
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Tabor hates you and your brother because you have sex with woman, Tabor likes to be corn holed by guys in storm trooper outfits.
 
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