The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

[William Wonder]

Thanks Frenchy, that was fantastic. I use the same micron bags as well with the same results. One thing I've found is crucial is the 160 bag to remove green crap. I'd like to perhaps see a bag, say a tad smaller maybe 140 micron to see if it helps remove impurities. Great idea using a camper type of washer and I like the second wash using just the 45 bag. Generally the 45 bag will be a much smaller amount then the 72 and generally not as good, but Frenchie does it right in that he omits the 72 bag in that step so in makes the 45 better like he says. I have over 25 years experience and I can vouch for this method. Frenchy is right on target according to my experience. I often do the method Frenchy describes after I do dry freezer extraction first. I don't want to lose any terpenes in the water.

 

[Californicater]

Yeah amazing bubble has walk through, I added that video to my youtube favorites, 1st ever, and I have used the same youtube account since the beginning of it.

So many little gems, I have been putting off buying a bubble machine for months because a) they are over priced and b) prices of them have been plummeting. Thanks to your generic tip I see why.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Thanks Frenchy, that was fantastic. I use the same micron bags as well with the same results. One thing I've found is crucial is the 160 bag to remove green crap. I'd like to perhaps see a bag, say a tad smaller maybe 140 micron to see if it helps remove impurities. Great idea using a camper type of washer and I like the second wash using just the 45 bag. Generally the 45 bag will be a much smaller amount then the 72 and generally not as good, but Frenchie does it right in that he omits the 72 bag in that step so in makes the 45 better like he says. I have over 25 years experience and I can vouch for this method. Frenchy is right on target according to my experience. I often do the method Frenchy describes after I do dry freezer extraction first. I don't want to lose any terpenes in the water.

You are welcome, nice to share
I am also considering going for a tad smaller, I am ordering some yard of 150 to make myself a dry sifting box and may use 150 in the future for my catch bag. Not sure about smaller, you want to be sure that your bigger trichomes 120 and over are easily going through your mesh.
In the video I omitted my 75 at the third wash to reinforce my 45. This not always the case, it could be after 1, 2 or 10, the way to judge is by looking at the amount of trichomes in your 70 bag, when the amount is considerably smaller, you can take the 70 out.
The number of wash will depends on your trims and the strain you are working with, I have washed some trims, from TC, 12 times (NL x Blueberry), they were fresh so they need more work but to give you an idea how far you can go.
The average difference between my 70 and 45 is only approx. 1% less of THC and 1% more of CBD.
What is "Dry Freezer Extraction" my friend

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Remember check for a mini washing machine online, not a bubble machine, it should not cost more than $70 - $90

 

[greenghost420]

i was just looking at silk screen to make a box and bags, and possibly a tumbler. where would you source your silkscreen?

 

[greenghost420]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-mi...81390?pt=Washing_Machines&hash=item4d010c8c6e

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

From my bag manufacturer

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-mi...81390?pt=Washing_Machines&hash=item4d010c8c6e

that's the one at the right price

 

[Kevdogg5555]

question about the bags you use. Is there any advantage besides extra drainage ability when using the mesh walled bags? I can see them being useful for draining faster, But I would like to know if there are any other advantages to using the 'side walled' mesh bags.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

They are also easier to clean and to keep clean. The plastic always get quite nasty after a while, that nastiness is made by all the trichomes that stick to the plastic and to top it big pain to totally wash with alcohol, with twice the amount . It has also a longer life

 

[Mr.Vega]

Very cool video...is it better and if so why to use the method of ice water to extract the trichs from the trim or to dry sift the trichs from the trim....I'm working w some trim now and all I have is a sift box....w some light movement and shaking the pile of trichs I'm accumulating under the screen are a white/cloudy/clear color....w a gold tint when the light hits it a certain way....this is what I'm looking for correct?....and when using the dry sift method after sifting are the trichs ready to b pressed and heated and rolled immediately?...I've scoped what I'm collecting and I see nothing but resin mainly heads that glisten in the light

 

[Mr.Vega]

And "friction"..."friction" is the word u were looking for in the vid where u were rubbing ur hands 2gether trying to describe how some ppl think the ice rubbing against the trim seperates the trichs frm the leaf....

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Dry sifting vs Ice water
I do love dry sifting and until 3 years ago that is what I did. Everything I do using ice water is based on what I learned dry sifting and adapted. The differences are minimal, a little more quantity for the ice water method and possibly more terpenes on the dry sifting side. Quality depends on the worker and not the method at that level.
Yes you are harvesting trichomes when your color palette is white/cloudy/transparent to golden, it's the green that you do not want. Experience hand pressing your dry trichomes before smoking and feel the changes (smell/taste/texture), another experience altogether, even more so than with ice water extracted trichomes

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Yes it was the word "friction" I was looking for.
Well you do not need it, actually you should avoid it

 

[Mr.Vega]

Yes it was the word "friction" I was looking for.Well you do not need it, actually you should avoid it

Ha..I knew what u were explaining...and I'm being gentle w my sifting to gather only trichs and zero debris..or as little as possible...I sifted a small grab frm the bag and gathered id say half a gram of quality trichs...I will try the palm/thumb technique as soon as I get home from wrk w that half g...I smoked a couple hits as kief last nite before bed and it was quite potent and tasty...completely diff than the scissor hash frm this trim..it was flavored like insence/perfume..opium actually is what came to mind...the kief was fruity/lemony and strong in the lungs to hold in...made my eyes heavy...I have abt an ounce and a half of this trim should I sift all of it..collect resin..and place in baggy and roll w hot bottle like u showed in one big batch or would u do small batches w the palm thumb method?

 

[Mr.Vega]

Dry sifting vs Ice waterI do love dry sifting and until 3 years ago that is what I did. Everything I do using ice water is based on what I learned dry sifting and adapted. The differences are minimal, a little more quantity for the ice water method and possibly more terpenes on the dry sifting side. Quality depends on the worker and not the method at that level.Yes you are harvesting trichomes when your color palette is white/cloudy/transparent to golden, it's the green that you do not want. Experience hand pressing your dry trichomes before smoking and feel the changes (smell/taste/texture), another experience altogether, even more so than with ice water extracted trichomes

I would "like" ur comments frenchy but the fone I'm using won't allow me...but I appreciate ur help.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

You should practice the hand press before going for the hot bottle. You have only your eyes to judge with the bottle so you need to experience and train your eyes to be able to read what you have been smelling/feeling and transforming in your hand

 

[Thundercat]

Well I just read through the whole thread and first want to say thanks to Frenchy and TC. I've toyed with several has making techs the last couple years with good results. I havn't gotten into IWE yet only because of buying the bags and everything. That is about to change, and I'll be following your tech. I started toying with hand pressing hash right from the beginning with dry sifted trichs. I can attest to the change you refer to, though I wouldn't begin to claim I have it down pat yet. Reading the first half of this thread with some of your experiances around the world was amazing, I would gladly give a kidney to get to have 1/4 of the adventures, and meet some of the skilled people you have gotten to work with. I hope someday I'll be able too!

 

[Mr.Vega]

You should practice the hand press before going for the hot bottle. You have only your eyes to judge with the bottle so you need to experience and train your eyes to be able to read what you have been smelling/feeling and transforming in your hand

Ok thanks....I'm just a little nervous abt dumping a big pile of these beautiful trichomes in my hand and start smashing and pressing them I feel like I'm gonna fuck it up..fuck them up...lose some of it...they are very good as is...but away w the doubtful attitude and I shall trust ur guidance...

 

['ome Grown]

My feelings were similar, but holding my thumb over the trichs for about a minute made them get stickier and melt together, which is when the pressing began.