The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

drgroove said:
Hi again Frenchy,



Then we are not really hot enough with boiling water (212F), right ?

Have a nice day !
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Yes I know but I would not go over that temperature + the glass is holding some of the heat so I am actually working wit a heat source somewhere around 180 to 200 F.
I want a decarb but I do not want to cook my hash at the same time. To give you an idea, put your oven at the minimum temp (170 F) and put some trichomes to press in for a few minutes, you will see it bubbling/cooking.
I like to be gentle all the way that is why I work at slightly lower temp but as long as necessary to get the what I want.
There is no real hard data on Decarboxylation, a perfect example of a traditional technique with no scientific study yet to cover it, so anybody help at that level would be awesome.
 
im fairly new to the decarbing of hashish. coming from texas i press my hash the same way we make barbeque, slow and low, baby. slow and low. lol. this is a great thread. thanks for all the info guys. pk
 
Frenchy Cannoli said:
The lack of information on curing ice water hash may come from the fact that I made it up when I started to collect my trichomes that way, just to have the certitude of a mold proof medicine. I have never talked to anybody doing it yet but that does not mean that I was the first. To much history in hash making to break new ground.
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anyone who ever dealt with mold on their hash know about curing their hash.
 
penguinking said:
im fairly new to the decarbing of hashish. coming from texas i press my hash the same way we make barbeque, slow and low, baby. slow and low. lol. this is a great thread. thanks for all the info guys. pk
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Low, slow and long is good my friend but still you need a minimum heat, already with boiling water we keep the temp to a minimum + the glass to buffer even more so. You need to keep your water real HOT to compensate, press as flat as you can, fold again and do the whole operation 3 to 5 times. All the best
 
Frenchy Cannoli said:
Yes I know but I would not go over that temperature + the glass is holding some of the heat so I am actually working wit a heat source somewhere around 180 to 200 F.
I want a decarb but I do not want to cook my hash at the same time. To give you an idea, put your oven at the minimum temp (170 F) and put some trichomes to press in for a few minutes, you will see it bubbling/cooking.
I like to be gentle all the way that is why I work at slightly lower temp but as long as necessary to get the what I want.
There is no real hard data on Decarboxylation, a perfect example of a traditional technique with no scientific study yet to cover it, so anybody help at that level would be awesome.
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I am a bit confused on the temps. In one post you say it needs 220 - 240 for decarb. The you say you are working with temps between 180 - 200. Which is it?

My guess is that it's the latter since you cannot heat water past 212 without it boiling off. (without pressure, that is. At home, in the kitchen)

Also, I have been playing around with heat pressing with some not too clean kief and even with the not so clean material the end product is far far better. I have been using boiling water in a wine bottle, then pressing and rolling and folding and pressing. Thanks for sharing the knowledge, Frenchy. I very much appreciate it.
 
GreenSanta said:
anyone who ever dealt with mold on their hash know about curing their hash.
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You would think so but since you do not press your trichomes in the States the risk is almost nil, furthermore you do not keep to store for long or age so again almost no risk.
The number of people curing must be small for those reasons but it would be nice to have an exchange of data between the one who do, especially if there is some hard scientific backup to it.
 
Mithrandir420 said:
I am a bit confused on the temps. In one post you say it needs 220 - 240 for decarb. The you say you are working with temps between 180 - 200. Which is it?

My guess is that it's the latter since you cannot heat water past 212 without it boiling off. (without pressure, that is. At home, in the kitchen)
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Yes sorry about that, being French I do not do well Fahrenheit or any non metric system, just checked in Celsius and did the conversion again. Anyway boiling water point is 210 F so I use a heat of 180 to 200 F.
 
When I made my Coconut Oil and hash mixture, I kept the temp at 170 F for an hour. It definitely worked :)
 
IMG_20130324_114906.jpgView attachment 2674666I'm truly blown away by your passion and skills for hash Frenchy! Thank you so much for sharing all this great information! I have a couple pics to share from my small grow. First is of unpressed OG kush water hash and second is TGA Chernobyl pressed water hash . Thanks again Frenchy you are a huge help!
 
I gifted some Malawi buds to an up and coming hash maker on 4/20. Yesterday he gave me a sample of his labor. He said that having the quantity of material to work with really let him dial in his process.


Gifted Malawi:




Malawi Brittle:




It smells like chocolate Thai :) My cat loved the smell so much he became a hash vampire and tried to suck the hash out of the package:








I am going to try pressing this hash and I will post pictures.



Cheers,
Mo
 
Hi Frenchy,

Frenchy Cannoli said:
Yes I know but I would not go over that temperature + the glass is holding some of the heat so I am actually working wit a heat source somewhere around 180 to 200 F.
I want a decarb but I do not want to cook my hash at the same time. To give you an idea, put your oven at the minimum temp (170 F) and put some trichomes to press in for a few minutes, you will see it bubbling/cooking.
I like to be gentle all the way that is why I work at slightly lower temp but as long as necessary to get the what I want.
There is no real hard data on Decarboxylation, a perfect example of a traditional technique with no scientific study yet to cover it, so anybody help at that level would be awesome.
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Thanks again :)

Will try to find a way to reach the 220F !

Something like oven at 220F : 10 mins, than 5 mins press and 5 mins in, repeat 4 times

Next batch in 4-5 week :(

Have a nice day !
 
I didnt realise some were heating the hash before pressing.

Frenchy, a long hand pressing session (30 min) with say 2-4 grams at a time will be enough to decarb as well correct? no heat require prior to pressing?
 
When cooking there is more control on the heat but you actually do not need a decarboxylation for edibles, the stomach metabolize the THC in a different way, that's why the high are so different
 
GreenSanta said:
I didnt realise some were heating the hash before pressing.

Frenchy, a long hand pressing session (30 min) with say 2-4 grams at a time will be enough to decarb as well correct? no heat require prior to pressing?
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Should be perfect, if you can warm up your trichomes with direct sun first it will make the work easier
 
koover said:
View attachment 2674667View attachment 2674666I'm truly blown away by your passion and skills for hash Frenchy! Thank you so much for sharing all this great information! I have a couple pics to share from my small grow. First is of unpressed OG kush water hash and second is TGA Chernobyl pressed water hash . Thanks again Frenchy you are a huge help!
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I must be a good teacher because you are blowing my mind guys.
AWESOME
 
Mohican said:
I gifted some Malawi buds to an up and coming hash maker on 4/20. Yesterday he gave me a sample of his labor. He said that having the quantity of material to work with really let him dial in his process.


Gifted Malawi:




Malawi Brittle:




It smells like chocolate Thai :) My cat loved the smell so much he became a hash vampire and tried to suck the hash out of the package:








I am going to try pressing this hash and I will post pictures.



Cheers,
Mo
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Hey Mo, I do not want to be the one breaking the bad news but this does not look like ice water hash to me.
You should ask your cat he would know the little vampire
 
It isn't IWE. I was going to observe the results of warming and rolling this product. Then I am going to re-run the Dry Ice hash in bubble bags and clean out the green. Then I will try rolling that product :)
 
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