The French Cannoli` Hash Thread
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GhostShadow
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As a consumer of your media:
As a grievance negotiator for a international construction union and with fear Ive already interjected too much.
TC ,
your statements below are actually a great starting point to a productive dialogue. In as much as the grievant the first step in the process is for this party to make such statements.
I suggest that for the benefit of all you continue with this dialogue calmly rationally and with the mature consideration that this team and what it has accomplished rightfully deserves.
Others,
Similarly I suggest all others, including myself, not directly involved with this dialogue going forward from this point respectably discontinue interjecting in it.
my apologies for doing so.
- I think you guys make a great team to which both contribute hugely.
- I sincerely hope that this team will find a mutually beneficial solution to this misunderstanding and will continue to produce fun, informative & entertaining productions in the future.
As a grievance negotiator for a international construction union and with fear Ive already interjected too much.
- tit for tat seldom solves anything and never does so productively.
- rational mediation is very likely in order and should be held outside any public forum
TC ,
your statements below are actually a great starting point to a productive dialogue. In as much as the grievant the first step in the process is for this party to make such statements.
Gentlemen,
I suggest that for the benefit of all you continue with this dialogue calmly rationally and with the mature consideration that this team and what it has accomplished rightfully deserves.
Others,
Similarly I suggest all others, including myself, not directly involved with this dialogue going forward from this point respectably discontinue interjecting in it.
my apologies for doing so.
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GhostShadow
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does maturation process of pressed resin consume cystolith hairs* contained with it?
I have been looking at my resin lately and have discovered an abundance in these structures in it.
is the gentility of the separation methodology a large contributing factor to minimizing the evidence of these structures.
how about removing of the stems or the relative age of the material?
* Resin glands on a stem lie close to the surface beneath the cystolith hairs. Hairs always point in direction of growing shoots.
The more obvious covering of white hairs seen on stems, petioles, and leaves are not resin glands. They are cystolith hairs of carbonate and silicate which are common to many plants. These sharp-pointed hairs afford the plant some protection from insects and make it less palatable to larger, plant-eating animals.
I have been looking at my resin lately and have discovered an abundance in these structures in it.
is the gentility of the separation methodology a large contributing factor to minimizing the evidence of these structures.
how about removing of the stems or the relative age of the material?
* Resin glands on a stem lie close to the surface beneath the cystolith hairs. Hairs always point in direction of growing shoots.
The more obvious covering of white hairs seen on stems, petioles, and leaves are not resin glands. They are cystolith hairs of carbonate and silicate which are common to many plants. These sharp-pointed hairs afford the plant some protection from insects and make it less palatable to larger, plant-eating animals.
Frenchy Cannoli
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It does to a point, you can see the process when you make Charas and let it age, when making Charas it is really hard to get rid of these hairs but after a few weeks they will disappear
GhostShadow
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Ill make a concentrated effort to first recognize when these hairs release from their bases.
and then be extra careful with the washes at that point. (perhaps not increasing the vigor with which the stirring or washing is done)
If they are already broken and littering the dried material .
I am still on a learning curve as to when and if to increase / decrease the wash / stir time given the state of the trim and on which rinse I am ( 1-...)
and then be extra careful with the washes at that point. (perhaps not increasing the vigor with which the stirring or washing is done)
If they are already broken and littering the dried material .
I am still on a learning curve as to when and if to increase / decrease the wash / stir time given the state of the trim and on which rinse I am ( 1-...)
Frenchy Cannoli
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These hair should stay in your catch bags (220 or 190) and possibly in your 160 but none should be in the lower microns.
You have to deal with water-ice-trims and timing ratio, more water, less ice not too much trims is a good start the timing is simple start with a 2 or 3 minutes and from the result you can decide how much to increase the cycle
WarMachine
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I can't tell if the "beef" between TCurtis and Frenchy is real or not..
GhostShadow
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my 120 bubble bag was damaged and I usually use it during the initial wash in the process however this run I did not.
the evidence in the 190 -160 catch bag as well as the 73-45 micron and the 25 micron was full of all kinds of shit. with the 73 - 45 being far less than the others. With the former I had no choice but to toss it in the spent alcohol jar for future iso extraction
However the 160-73 catch looked much cleaner than the others although Im concerned about what appears to be some sort of crap mixed in with it.
any ideas of what it is?
the evidence in the 190 -160 catch bag as well as the 73-45 micron and the 25 micron was full of all kinds of shit. with the 73 - 45 being far less than the others. With the former I had no choice but to toss it in the spent alcohol jar for future iso extraction
However the 160-73 catch looked much cleaner than the others although Im concerned about what appears to be some sort of crap mixed in with it.
any ideas of what it is?
hyroot
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That sucks, you guys seemed like really good buddies. Hopefully you guys can work it out. I always enjoyed chatting with both of you guys at the cups too.
Frenchy Cannoli
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It doesn't look kosher but had to say, definitely not hair from the flowers
GhostShadow
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definitely not pistillate hairs. after looking at it under 100x some of it looks like broken stalks, some thistle like cystolith hairs, and what looks like single strands of lint.
the resin was very sticky and amber in color and smells turpentine
my apologies for the poor picture quality
40X
the resin was very sticky and amber in color and smells turpentine
my apologies for the poor picture quality
40X
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Frenchy Cannoli
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The resin look Ouh La La
GhostShadow
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what is the best way to prepare new bags for use?
just toss them in the machine for a cool / cold water cycle for 10 min or so wring them out , towel dry them and then hand them up in the bath?
then fold them up and put them in a ziplock after they have dried?
just toss them in the machine for a cool / cold water cycle for 10 min or so wring them out , towel dry them and then hand them up in the bath?
then fold them up and put them in a ziplock after they have dried?
cannabiscult666
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Making hash outta this Oregon D soon!
cannabiscult666
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Props @ TCurtiss
GhostShadow
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a hypothetical:
Say Green Santa left a bag with several big ziplocks full of resin laden trim under your tree and on the sack was nothing except a label bearing the following...
What would be the steps and in what order would you take in order to do so?
How would you use that specific information prior to washing?
How would you use that specific information during the washing in an effort to gain a reasonable balance of quality and quantity of the separated Resin Glands?
(Clean: work space, utensils, ice cold water etc are a given)
For example How long of a cycle(s) would you wash it what bags would you use? what specifically would you look for in the bags etc,
Say Green Santa left a bag with several big ziplocks full of resin laden trim under your tree and on the sack was nothing except a label bearing the following...
- To: <inset name here>
- From: Green Santa
- Happy New Year
What would be the steps and in what order would you take in order to do so?
How would you use that specific information prior to washing?
How would you use that specific information during the washing in an effort to gain a reasonable balance of quality and quantity of the separated Resin Glands?
(Clean: work space, utensils, ice cold water etc are a given)
For example How long of a cycle(s) would you wash it what bags would you use? what specifically would you look for in the bags etc,
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Frenchy Cannoli
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Reading hypothetical trims is exactly like checking flowers for quality as a starter when you first choose.
Reading your trims before starting to work is simple but very important and based on a simple question: How dry is my material and how long will it take to re-humidify.
You have to deal with water, trims, ice and timing ratio, keep it safe with a lot of water, little ice, 1/3 of trims and start with a few minutes to be on the safe side. I use 190 as a catch bag, 160 and 45 microns
GhostShadow
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My intention is to use 80% literally Ice cold water 20% ice to make the sandwich hydrate the trims for 15 minutes run the machine for 1 or 2 minutes on the first wash drain and proceed with the rinsing technique and de bag. then just add water again Ice cold in a similar amount to the remaining ice and run for 5 min drain rinse.
I cant remember if we did any wash for more than 5-6 minutes during the seminar maybe 10 at most.
I cant remember if we did any wash for more than 5-6 minutes during the seminar maybe 10 at most.
GhostShadow
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yeah I don't every recall running for more than 10 min Aug 8th mostly like 5-6 min max and starting like 30 sec to a min