The Future Now!

TillthedayiDIE420 said:
DUDE... your a idiot stfu now. dont argue with shit you dont even know.
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oh sure, that is why i'm still working on my PH. D:evil: i have a guy 4 labs away from my one researching for osram figuring out how to build better set ups for production, so the material, internal papers and scientific journals he has in his office tell me shit, or would you even go so far to tell me that I'm totally unable to read a clear statement of one how should know it a bit since its his job???

this is getting me too stupid, sure LEDs have future, and i'm the last one to deny this, but they have still along way to got until commercial LEDs match those which only exist in the labs right now. and to get something from the lab into production is a hell lot more tricky then most people think!:roll: and is should be able to tell since i make my living as a chemical&processes ingenieur:-|
 
Hi i have found these new grow lights specifically for your grow needs. They are space age material reflectors that make 100x more intense but will not burn your plants. These bulbs i made will last 100 000 hours and are the correct spectrum for both veg and flowering. These 5w bulbs will outperform your 600w HPS. They are selling like hot cakes!

How many do you want?
 
leafwrapper said:
lol poor kid, hps gives out the spec. of light that plants can use for flowering and use it well this is not debatable froob. i know u think leds r better well good for u show us some pics of the led grown buds. im wiping my ass with this now
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Poor kid? im not a kid dude if you knew enything at all about spectrum, you would of obtained information about it there, but you dont so who are you to give a opinion on something you dont know about?!?! Ive grown under HPS/MH for 5 years fruit cake... from your post you have argued nothing..if you knew enything at all... you would know in flower plants like red spectrum... somthing that HPS give little of... Lol and im saying one 9watt LED gives off the same light as a 250watt, its not as intense as a 250watt but you get the same results... GET IT MORON? it does not penitrate as far, but no light is wasted because of this... thus giving you the same results for less watts being used.... i will be in the future showing pic of experaments but plants dont grow in a day dude. im wiping my ass on your face now
 
Jimmy Johnston said:
Hi i have found these new grow lights specifically for your grow needs. They are space age material reflectors that make 100x more intense but will not burn your plants. These bulbs i made will last 100 000 hours and are the correct spectrum for both veg and flowering. These 5w bulbs will outperform your 600w HPS. They are selling like hot cakes!

How many do you want?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RETARD!!!! HAHAHAHA fuck im done with you newbs... ill show you the results when im finished...

go post a 140 more times in a day jimmy... nubs like you are making this forum worse and worse.
 
TillthedayiDIE420 said:
O im going to, im picking a set up as soon i can! if they do what they say they can... one 9watt LED light is the same as using a 250HPS or MH.....

so if i had twenty 9watt LED lights... thats 5000watts of HID power using only 180watts
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One more time...... hahahahahahaha another sucker!!!!
 
Jimmy Johnston said:
Hi i have found these new grow lights specifically for your grow needs. They are space age material reflectors that make 100x more intense but will not burn your plants. These bulbs i made will last 100 000 hours and are the correct spectrum for both veg and flowering. These 5w bulbs will outperform your 600w HPS. They are selling like hot cakes!

How many do you want?
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Here is a pic of what you can do with of these 5w bulbs and the special reflectors...

...so how many do you want?
 

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and TillthedayiDIE420 i find it funny how in most of your post you just repeat the person who just posted infront of you lol... even when they are wrong you repeat that same info... lol
 
Jimmy Johnston said:
and TillthedayiDIE420 i find it funny how in most of your post you just repeat the person who just posted infront of you lol... even when they are wrong you repeat that same info... lol
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so i'm not the only one with that feeling;) nice flowering room you got yourself there by the way jimmy. using 2 600Ws HPS in there or even 3? sweet:)
 
my opinion the led's have a real future and as everything will be improved over time , but for now i dont have space to put 20 led's in my grow room and still grow monster budz . like somethings look and sound great in theory but are always practical .
 
Jimmy Johnston said:
and TillthedayiDIE420 i find it funny how in most of your post you just repeat the person who just posted infront of you lol... even when they are wrong you repeat that same info... lol
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LOL jimmy you think you are a big shot dont ya?
k well lets play a little game of bringing up every one of your pointless posts... o wait thats all of them...

lol here is one of them... its like everyone of your posts...

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if you plan to cut back the light to 24/12 for...

if you plan to cut back the light to 24/12 for flowering. what cycle would you be using for vegging 36/12?:confused:


24/12? are you retarded no wonder your confused your a stupid cunt.... 36/12?!?! what we live on mars? we have more then a 24 hour day?!!? OMG I BOW DOWN TO YOUR KNOWLEGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
 
Lol leafwrapper,jimmy and green nobody.... you guys are blind... k leafwrapper like i said before im buying them... i dont have them...
do you think the bright stuff that comes out of the bulbs grows ur wittle plants?! no morons ITS THE FUCKING SPECTRUM !!!!!!! YOUR IDIOTS.... im not saying a LED is a HPS... the LED spectrum is better for plant growth then a HPS and it has zero light loss, so yeah in a way it is better....
hey green Jimmy has no HPS lights...maybe a CFL

Ive been growing more then all you newbies combined... i have more then enough HPS lights yeah they work... But you just dont get what the LED lights do. If they can grow tomato's like that, they can grow weed you fucking idiots... weed is a weed you could plant it and leave it with no nutrients and it will GROW ITS A EASY PLANT TO FUCKING GROW....
you nubs are so fixed on the watts and shit you dont take the time to research Spectrum and what it accully does... its the light that makes growth possible... the reason i say LEDs compete with HID's is because the spectrum is better... i am sick and tired of you guys trying to act like you know what your talking about when you dont.... im done awnsering anything you three say... I'm only going to reply to people with knowlege lol...
peace nubs

your opinions arnt welcome in this thread.
 
Hey man, I find all this very interesting and I think you should ignore all the flak and go ahead and experiment. I myself checked the website, looked a bit sketchy but it does make some good points. What I don't understand how they can possibly use so little electricity. The site claims an 18 light setup, good for a 12-24 sq ft garden uses 132 watts? Seems too good to be true. This is certainly no reason to experiment though. I'll be keeping a close eye. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]
 
loveisallyouneed said:
Hey man, I find all this very interesting and I think you should ignore all the flak and go ahead and experiment. I myself checked the website, looked a bit sketchy but it does make some good points. What I don't understand how they can possibly use so little electricity. The site claims an 18 light setup, good for a 12-24 sq ft garden uses 132 watts? Seems too good to be true. This is certainly no reason to experiment though. I'll be keeping a close eye.
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thanks for the post love. Glad to see someone read the site. lol

k do you have a normal LED flashlight? and a older normal bulb flashlight?

Compaire them you'll see. But you would be surprized yes it sounds a bit sketch... but 18 lights in a 12-24 sqft area is good enough lighting, you can place the lights very close to them even touching the plants... you can have them above like they have shown, but im going to have them inch's away surrounding the plants. Im going to do a 18 light set, and compaire it to a 400watt - 600watt - 1000watt. then im going to combine them both. The yeild will be large when combined im predicting, and i think they will be similar when compairing against each other, this test is going to take some time to finish but i will update, ill make a new thread in the grow log. Its funny how there so easy to say LED's suck, when green nobody uses a battery powered led light. Jimmy has absolutly no say in enything in this site, because he hasent fully grown a single plant yet. I'm glad to see people like you on this forum, decent people with knowlege, there are many others but then many that have not a clue...
Ill keep you all updated, its going to take some time tho.
 
Aight. I hope everyone naysaying LEDs is listening.

Currently NASA is doing studies with LED lighting used to grow vegitation in space. LEDs use far less power and generate the closest to the spectrum of light plants need.

RED: 630nm
BLUE: 470nm

If you really think yellow is so amazing for flowering then get an amber or a yellow and quit complaining. Technology will always change and bickering isnt going to make the old HID systems any more effective.

I have looked over several HPS spectrums and all of them are creating at least 50% of their lumens in the wrong spectrum.

Hands down LED lighting is the must tailorable and the most effective lighting on the market.
 
very exciting reading on the led's. quick questions:

1) for flowering, would all red led's do, or should some blues be mixed in?

2) what would be the watts/sq foot be for this technology? it seems like 5-10 watts/sq foot would be plenty, but this seems too good to be true..........
 
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