The future workflow of harvesting bud? The Cannaster!

refriedbeano

Active Member
I finally got my head around what this machine I made actually means for the harvesting workflow.
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On the left is the budcure box which uses weight to track the moisture content, and the right is the cannaster. Going to just focus on the cannaster right now.
The lid is motorized and so you just put your buds in the bain marie pot and use the interface to close the lid. It can fit about 400 grams and uses a small vacuum pump to remove moisture from the inside out.
So the workflow is like this: you pull your drying buds off the stems while the stems are still bendy, and load it into the bain marie which has internal dividers to keep everything separate.
The fact that you don't have to wait until the stem snaps will make peoples harvests much more successful. I've been on youtube looking at what people are doing and this is a common failure point.
And then, how i have the machine setup is that it turns on the pump on a timer and it also reads the rh. So what i did was set the timer to once every 1.5 hours at the beginning, and I also set the pump to come on when the rh gets above a certain amount. So what happens is the pump comes on every 15 minutes as the rh rises and then after a day or two as the buds dry out the pump only comes on every 1.5 hours. Usually at this time the buds are dry enough to store.
Ended up that I was able to go straight from the cannaster to the jar without any burping at all.
I wasn't able to fully test it out though due to security threats and then someone robbed my last haul right from under me. Plus, I had no idea that rh is very temperature dependent and it caused a good deal of confusion. I'm confident though that the cannaster would be an ideal tool in a climate controlled environment for getting buds into jars.
The budcure box worked pretty good also, it uses only a small fan on a timer to control humidity and tracks the weight loss due to evaporation. So the workflow I'm imaging is that you would pull the buds out of the budcure box at a set weight and throw them into the cannaster. This way everything is done exactly.
Any thoughts on why this isn't already the way to do things?
 

DanKiller

Well-Known Member
Maybe because drying is much more easier in real life than what people make of it on forums ?

I just hang them and make sure RH is 50-55 and heat is not above 24c.
After a week they feel dry from the outside of the bud I take them off the stems and put them in paper bags (each run I have 50+ phenos) so I need a lot of small bags, another week and they are ready to the jars for storing
I don't cure anything as i pheno hunt 99% of the time and don't do production runs
No reason to cure a potentially shitty plant, it won't make it better

You can actually smell if the drying process is working or stalling or even overdoing, when you go above 60RH you get that lettuce smell, also when your temps are high (hay smell)
It doesn't have to be perfect but basic parameters needs to be kept.
 

refriedbeano

Active Member
Saw something similar with a bucket and blowing fresh air in
Yes I saw that video also, I was aiming more for smaller personal growers, people that grow one room of plants at a time.

Maybe because drying is much more easier in real life than what people make of it on forums ?

I just hang them and make sure RH is 50-55 and heat is not above 24c.
After a week they feel dry from the outside of the bud I take them off the stems and put them in paper bags (each run I have 50+ phenos) so I need a lot of small bags, another week and they are ready to the jars for storing
I don't cure anything as i pheno hunt 99% of the time and don't do production runs
No reason to cure a potentially shitty plant, it won't make it better

You can actually smell if the drying process is working or stalling or even overdoing, when you go above 60RH you get that lettuce smell, also when your temps are high (hay smell)
It doesn't have to be perfect but basic parameters needs to be kept.
Well I dont really agree its easier because the difference between the right moisture content and bone dry is like 10 grams of water an ounce. Even some guys on youtube who where running a dehumidifier missed the mark. Its much easier to pull them way before they are officially ready with the stem snap method. Plus with the weight known you can dial it in perfectly.
I have about 5 jars curing right now. All the weed you buy from the "pros" actually isnt cured at all, just because you sat on them for 2 months. The weed has to be at the right moisture content for the cells to continue their work, and only then will they consume themselves so that when you smoke it in a pipe it turns to white ash without any charcoal intermediate.
I had to do all my drying outside in the texas heat. I'm pretty sure these machines would do a great job inside a climate controlled area. The budcure box takes about a week to two weeks to get them dry enough to put in the cannaster, and the cannaster takes a few days to get them into jars. Someone think I'm onto something here?
 
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