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Randomblame

Randomblame

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Another free tipp to find a keeper plant..
If you have 3 girls and one of them has a few leaves like this ...
If you search the best one for next year look for something like this.jpg
... choose this one to work with.

It's a hint that there was triploid genetic at some point in the past and usually you'll get a strong and high yielding plant. For this reason some breeders have experimented in the 80's with colchicine to cause mutations and create triploid strains themself. But most of the time the mutations were too strong so they have stopped it again.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Randomblame said:
Another free tipp to find a keeper plant..
If you have 3 girls and one of them has a few leaves like this ...
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... choose this one to work with.

It's a hint that there was triploid genetic at some point in the past and usually you'll get a strong and high yielding plant. For this reason some breeders have experimented in the 80's with colchicine to cause mutations and create triploid strains themself. But most of the time the mutations were too strong so they have stopped it again.
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That's a nice theory that I guess we will have to disagree on like leaves dropping off at the bottom of the plant because she doesn't need those leaves anymore lol.
I wouldn't call it a free tip, more like a 2c opinion.
Now a bunch a newbies are going to be sharing that tip as gospel in the newbie section leaving more work for those of us that like to help them.

I did have something I wanted to share about leaf drop although I haven't had time yet to test it.

My 2c opinion.
Only time I ever have heathy looking lower leaves drop off is when I use to high of a % of H202 to kill fungus gnat larvae in soil.
When not using H202 my leaves will hang on long after they dry up.
I was wondering if you are using H202 in your system if that could be playing a roll.
 
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SSGrower

SSGrower

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Kushash said:
That's a nice theory that I guess we will have to disagree on like leaves dropping off at the bottom of the plant because she doesn't need those leaves anymore lol.
I wouldn't call it a free tip, more like a 2c opinion.
Now a bunch a newbies are going to be sharing that tip as gospel in the newbie section leaving more work for those of us that like to help them.

I did have something I wanted to share about leaf drop although I haven't had time yet to test it.

My 2c opinion.
Only time I ever have heathy looking lower leaves drop off is when I use to high of a % of H202 to kill fungus gnat larvae in soil.
When not using H202 my leaves will hang on long after they dry up.
I was wondering if you are using H202 in you system if that could be playing a roll.
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I got no change for you on the h2o2 (no experience there), but agree on the ducks foot. I think it is common now in polyhybrids, I don't recall seeing it when growing based from Mexican brick 20 years ago.

My unrelated 0.02
Spectrum adjustment can be acomplishised with lexan.
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don't know if you can see the burnt tips starting on the lettuce, so I needed to "dim" the photons.
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@OneHitDone is not insane for growing lettuce, that comes from a whole 'nuther place, it is a very dark and real and we do not want to venture there without understanding it will involve much self reflection.
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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Kushash said:
That's a nice theory that I guess we will have to disagree on like leaves dropping off at the bottom of the plant because she doesn't need those leaves anymore lol.
I wouldn't call it a free tip, more like a 2c opinion.
Now a bunch a newbies are going to be sharing that tip as gospel in the newbie section leaving more work for those of us that like to help them.

I did have something I wanted to share about leaf drop although I haven't had time yet to test it.

My 2c opinion.
Only time I ever have heathy looking lower leaves drop off is when I use to high of a % of H202 to kill fungus gnat larvae in soil.
When not using H202 my leaves will hang on long after they dry up.
I was wondering if you are using H202 in your system if that could be playing a roll.
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Nope! Wrong context It must mean: ....because they don't receive light anymore, bro!
That's something different!

And no, no H2O2 cuz it would kill the added myco's and bacteria I'm using (TNC MycorrMax). I would only use it when a plant has root rot. Otherwise it's counter productive with an innoculated media and especially in organic soil. I actually though you would grow organic?
But rather believe these MycorrMax stuff has an effect cuz mycos and useful bacteria usually help to keep a plant healthy.

Also no excessive nutes. They would not help to keep a plant green. EC was between 600 and 800ppm all the time and even lower at the beginning.

If you grow in organic soil just add a cup of diatomaceous earth to each 4-5 gal. of soil. This way you can easily kill fungus gnats larvea without using chemicals. 100% success rate and it works pretty fast! It don't kills the adult gnats but you can use yellow stickers to catch them. Takes maybe a week to remove them completely!


You don't need to believe what I give as a free tipp. But do not wonder when you see more plants like mine next comp and non of them is yours.
Fact is, I always look for plant with this tiny 6th or 8th leaf and 90% it ends up being the strongest, best yielding plant. This was also the decisive factor this time cause No2 also looked very good.
I would recommend to try it out before you denie. It costs nothing...
I also use a lunar calendar usually to plan germination, veg and flowering timings. Also nonsense??
 
Thegermling

Thegermling

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Randomblame said:
Hey, homies - it's party time!
She's ready but I forgot it's easter weekend and I wanna visit my mom so I've decided to chop her on tues- or wednesday.
I'll leave the light off until then so I don't need to water her that often.
Fits better for me and I'm pretty sure its still enough time to dry her properly, we had 25°C yesterday..

So same side, top and bottom view pics like always...
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.. a little closer showing the upper half...
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.. and finally a close up of the top cola to show her white layer.
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Detailed harvest pics will follow in 2 or 3 days..
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Hey, youre missing your word. Edit your post with the word added in. I wouldnt want you to be eliminated if you missed the word this week since you missed one update without the word a couple weeks ago (you added it late).
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Randomblame said:
Nope! Wrong context It must mean: ....because they don't receive light anymore, bro!
That's something different!

And no, no H2O2 cuz it would kill the added myco's and bacteria I'm using (TNC MycorrMax). I would only use it when a plant has root rot. Otherwise it's counter productive with an innoculated media and especially in organic soil. I actually though you would grow organic?
But rather believe these MycorrMax stuff has an effect cuz mycos and useful bacteria usually help to keep a plant healthy.

Also no excessive nutes. They would not help to keep a plant green. EC was between 600 and 800ppm all the time and even lower at the beginning.

If you grow in organic soil just add a cup of diatomaceous earth to each 4-5 gal. of soil. This way you can easily kill fungus gnats larvea without using chemicals. 100% success rate and it works pretty fast! It don't kills the adult gnats but you can use yellow stickers to catch them. Takes maybe a week to remove them completely!


You don't need to believe what I give as a free tipp. But do not wonder when you see more plants like mine next comp and non of them is yours.
Fact is, I always look for plant with this tiny 6th or 8th leaf and 90% it ends up being the strongest, best yielding plant. This was also the decisive factor this time cause No2 also looked very good.
I would recommend to try it out before you denie. It costs nothing...
I also use a lunar calendar usually to plan germination, veg and flowering timings. Also nonsense??
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I use sticky traps near the rim of the pot and shared with hybridway2 my opinion that they are much more affective around the inner rim of the pot a while back.
I recently watered all my plants in the flower room then added a thin layer of DE followed by a thin layer of perlite followed by a thin layer of DE followed by a final thin layer of perlite. Let them dry out for a while and taking adults out with spinosad on the surface.


Randomblame said:
Fact is, I always look for plant with this tiny 6th or 8th leaf and 90% it ends up being the strongest, best yielding plant.
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LOL Dawg likes you :) doesn't like me. :(

So what if I told you I could show you plants with Happy Birthday Bitch and do it with 6, 8, 10 and 12 leaflets right now?
Would you consider them the better plants because I admit that I do find that to be a possibility when my plants grow 12 or 14 leaflets but not so much the 6 or 8. Just my 2c opinion and might just be confirmation bias.

BTW, your comp cup bud pics look really nice!
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Great job guys. Wish i could've been around more to smack u fools with 16oz of , ahhh, ClearRez. Lol! Happy Easter, hope yall had a good one!
Im happy with my plant. Shes a beast, is wicked greasy & smelly. Plenty of trich action n even some purp showing up. Kindve wish i had this pheno!20190421_225920.jpg 20190421_230253.jpg 20190421_230633.jpg 20190421_230505.jpg 20190421_230447.jpg 20190421_230430.jpg
She sustained.
Never grew a single Cola plant before. Cool stuff, wish i could run all new strains this way to determine keepers.
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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Kushash said:
I use sticky traps near the rim of the pot and shared with hybridway2 my opinion that they are much more affective around the inner rim of the pot a while back.
I recently watered all my plants in the flower room then added a thin layer of DE followed by a thin layer of perlite followed by a thin layer of DE followed by a final thin layer of perlite. Let them dry out for a while and taking adults out with spinosad on the surface.


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LOL Dawg likes you :) doesn't like me. :(

So what if I told you I could show you plants with Happy Birthday Bitch and do it with 6, 8, 10 and 12 leaflets right now?
Would you consider them the better plants because I admit that I do find that to be a possibility when my plants grow 12 or 14 leaflets but not so much the 6 or 8. Just my 2c opinion and might just be confirmation bias.

BTW, your comp cup bud pics look really nice!
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Perfect! Maybe put it next time directly into the soil so you catch all larvae directly. On the surface it takes longer and the gnats which leave the pot from below are not catched..
It also works when it gets wet and the silicate is indeed also useful for plants.

Genetic is a wide field, bro! What do you think, why have breeders in the 80's tried to breed tri- or multi-ploid plants? Have you ever seen a true triploid plant in your garden? Looks like this...
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@SSGrower
Yeah, it is possible that the triploid genetic (these ducks feets) are remains of these attempts and can still be found in today's varieties. The mutations never completely disappear from the genetic material and spread further and further with each crossing.
But triploids has always been there and will always be.
It's just a slight mutation causing hammer head tops.
 
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Randomblame

Randomblame

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Thegermling said:
Hey, youre missing your word. Edit your post with the word added in. I wouldnt want you to be eliminated if you missed the word this week since you missed one update without the word a couple weeks ago (you added it late).
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Thanks, bro! Will do it when I'm back home later today! Shitty language barrier.. Sorry!
I've asked extra and did not understand nevertheless., lol!

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Anyway to late to edit yesterdays posts so I'll add them here..

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She finally starts to fade out but not enough time until wednesday..

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SSGrower

SSGrower

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Randomblame said:
Perfect! Maybe put it next time directly into the soil so you catch all larvae directly. On the surface it takes longer and the gnats which leave the pot from below are not catched..
It also works when it gets wet and the silicate is indeed also useful for plants.

Genetic is a wide field, bro! What do you think, why have breeders in the 80's tried to breed tri- or multi-ploid plants? Have you ever seen a true triploid plant in your garden? Looks like this...
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@SSGrower
Yeah, it is possible that the triploid genetic (these ducks feets) are remains of these attempts and can still be found in today's varieties. The mutations never completely disappear from the genetic material and spread further and further with each crossing.
But triploids has always been there and will always be.
It's just a slight mutation causing hammer head tops.
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I am not seeing it as a desireable trait. Those that you have pictured have very high leaf to calyx ratio and though potency may be through the roof, that ratio makes it undesireable to smoke.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. I feel the ducks foot is way more common today, I only recall seeing it on what I would call stressed plants from the mexican brick. Im older now and my memory is shit, but I just dont recall noticing it so much, I did take a 15 year break from growing too.

Edit, reread your post, I think you understood me fine, I am the one with comprehension issues.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Randomblame said:
Perfect! Maybe put it next time directly into the soil so you catch all larvae directly. On the surface it takes longer and the gnats which leave the pot from below are not catched..
It also works when it gets wet and the silicate is indeed also useful for plants.

Genetic is a wide field, bro! What do you think, why have breeders in the 80's tried to breed tri- or multi-ploid plants? Have you ever seen a true triploid plant in your garden? Looks like this...
View attachment 4321552 View attachment 4321551

@SSGrower
Yeah, it is possible that the triploid genetic (these ducks feets) are remains of these attempts and can still be found in today's varieties. The mutations never completely disappear from the genetic material and spread further and further with each crossing.
But triploids has always been there and will always be.
It's just a slight mutation causing hammer head tops.
Click to expand...
That's a cool pic.
I've never grown one like that.
 
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