OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
So fundamental Islam is your idea of what's wrong in the Middle East? That's a fairly simplistic view.
They outlaw bikinis and then cry and threaten other nations doing the same. Fuck that shit.
So fundamental Islam is your idea of what's wrong in the Middle East? That's a fairly simplistic view.
Everyone knows that.I`m totally lost on that.
Everyone knows that.
Bill Clinton, the Ex-President, made over $5M in speaking fees last year.
why should people in the west have supported overthrowing yet another forigen government ?Turkey's coup was an attempt to bring the country back to its secular founding values away from the ideological creep that Erdogan is instrumental in...
Very few people in the West shouldn't have supported it.
Just a well used way launder money from payoffs.Everyone knows that.
Bill Clinton, the Ex-President, made over $5M in speaking fees last year.
No, but Turkey remaining a secular country is definitely good for the region.So fundamental Islam is your idea of what's wrong in the Middle East? That's a fairly simplistic view.
Turkey was founded entirely on the principle of being a secular state.why should people in the west have supported overthrowing yet another forigen government ?
Iraq
Afghanistan
Libya
Yemen
egypt
syria
the USA is 0 for 6 with millions dead & u think we should try to make muricans out of a 7th country lol
what's frightening is that you don't see the previous failures in forigen policy that have vaporized millions of human beings,because america .......
see now that's a reasonable expectation only the US government has proven itself unable to have a reasonable forigen policy,the last 2 administrations have wreeked havoc on the world,created the most death since ww2,a refugee Apocalypse & all with no clear agenda.Turkey was founded entirely on the principle of being a secular state.
It's not so much wanting Turkey to change per say and more a desire to see it get back to its far more reasonable roots.
I don't think the Govt should do anything officially to try influence change in a foreign nation, but hoping for a coup to succeed is hardly direct intervention.see now that's a reasonable expectation only the US government has proven itself unable to have a reasonable forigen policy,the last 2 administrations have wreeked havoc on the world,created the most death since ww2,a refugee Apocalypse & all with no clear agenda.
the USA policy in the middle east is Vietnam x100
I think we all realize the US never hopes,they intervene and assassinate,just like Gaddafi n look where that got us,3 million refugees & Europe a complete meltdown,coming to us soonI don't think the Govt should do anything officially to try influence change in a foreign nation, but hoping for a coup to succeed is hardly direct intervention.
Gadaffi was Libya, there were very few refugees.I think we all realize the US never hopes,they intervene and assassinate,just like Gaddafi n look where that got us,3 million refugees & Europe a complete meltdown,coming to us soon
you forget Libya is part of the diaspora & was the country holding back the floodgates of millions of african economic refugees,the actual # of Libyan citizens killed is about 50k but the ensuing civil war has taken over 300k,its all interconnectedGadaffi was Libya, there were very few refugees.
Assad is Syria and thats what caused the refugee crisis.
It didn't help that Merkel said "If you make it to Germany we'll let you stay" despite that being against the principle that you're expected to claim asylum in the first safe country you reach.
So why are the vast majority of refugees from Syria thenyou forget Libya is part of the diaspora & was the country holding back the floodgates of millions of african economic refugees,the actual # of Libyan citizens killed is about 50k but the ensuing civil war has taken over 300k,its all interconnected
your missing the point,being deported yes,until then hundreds of thousands are roaming through several countrys,creating vast crimes,many made it to Germany & Sweden and were accepted in the early days,now the rest are being housed,fed,clothed,medical care and slowly deported at great expense,all could have been avoided by simply staying out of Libya.So why are the vast majority of refugees from Syria then
African Economic migrants are being deported from Europe as normal.
They're fucking SYRIAN, are you literally retarded?your missing the point,being deported yes,until then hundreds of thousands are roaming through several countrys,creating vast crimes,many made it to Germany & Sweden and were accepted in the early days,now the rest are being housed,fed,clothed,medical care and slowly deported at great expense,all could have been avoided by simply staying out of Libya.
how is anybody better off with the new Libya ? the same was planned for Syria,had Russia not stepped in Syria would be another Libya by now
They're fucking SYRIAN, are you literally retarded?
Libyans arnt migrating, Syrians are.
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