The house voted to repeal Obamacare will it pass the senate?

tangerinegreen555

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srh: you should call pat toomey's office. ask him how he plans to vote on the "rape is a pre-existing condition & essential health benefits are not essential to health" bill.

(202) 224-4254
I've called that asshole's office before.

He is a horrible senator who only represents who voted for him.

The last reasonable republican senator we had was John Heinz. Reasonable republicans are as rare as dinosaurs now. Good luck finding one.
 

Chunky Stool

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It will not pass, but it is great to have these fucktards on record with their vote.
2018 should be a good year. 2020 even better
2020 will be a complete reversal of our current situation. That's why McConnell didn't want to change senate rules to require a simple majority. He may be a fucking cunt but he's not stupid. Rallying behind the orange psychopath was political suicide, but the turtle may survive it.
 

UncleBuck

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I've called that asshole's office before.

He is a horrible senator who only represents who voted for him.

The last reasonable republican senator we had was John Heinz. Reasonable republicans are as rare as dinosaurs now. Good luck finding one.
to his credit, he did co-sponsor the universal background checks bill along with manchin (ESTABLISHMENT CORPORATE DONOR CLASS SHILL).
 

UncleBuck

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2020 will be a complete reversal of our current situation. That's why McConnell didn't want to change senate rules to require a simple majority. He may be a fucking cunt but he's not stupid. Rallying behind the orange psychopath was political suicide, but the turtle may survive it.
senators have said there have already been private talks about removing him.
 

tangerinegreen555

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2020 will be a complete reversal of our current situation. That's why McConnell didn't want to change senate rules to require a simple majority. He may be a fucking cunt but he's not stupid. Rallying behind the orange psychopath was political suicide, but the turtle may survive it.
No, he's not stupid at all.


Unlike the middle class people who vote for him.

I still remember when I was a little kid, my dad told me one day, 'I hope you grow up to become a republican because that means you'll be rich.'

I was taught politics from my FDR new deal union Democrat dad at a very early age.
Thanks dad.
 

ttystikk

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No, he's not stupid at all.


Unlike the middle class people who vote for him.

I still remember when I was a little kid, my dad told me one day, 'I hope you grow up to become a republican because that means you'll be rich.'

I was taught politics from my FDR new deal union Democrat dad at a very early age.
Thanks dad.
Let's find another New Deal pro Union FDR style Democrat- and fast.
 

mauricem00

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These pricks actually think they did something good for the American ppl, not only is preexisting conditions eliminated under this new proposed bill but those who also have employer based coverage.

The orange turd is still promising lower premiums:shock::(:roll:
they did something good for their rich friends. they think we are dumb enough to believe they did this to help us.when was the last time a politician told the truth?
 

ttystikk

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That's a tall order. FDR and a congress ready to get things.done.


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In another thread here in the politics section, @Fogdog posted an opinion piece from the WaPo that showed that white working class people will often support politicians and policies that directly hurt themselves.

They are persuaded to believe that such assistance might be offered to those less deserving than themselves- which is bad, even if the very same assistance is offered to them as well.

Somehow the massive tax breaks and subsidies going to the ultra wealthy and large corporations are given a free pass because 'they deserve it'.

They don't understand how such beliefs are so damaging to their own situation and as such it's very difficult to break through this carefully created and interwoven thicket of misconceptions, also known as 'propaganda'. Those of us on the outside looking in can clearly see how they've been suckered, but they seem resistant to any explanation of the illogic of their positions and the ultimate detriment to themselves.

I've been trying to figure out what messages could break through the right wing 'fog of war on welfare' for years and I'm at a loss. Even members of my immediate family have swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker and I've found it impossible to have an intelligent discussion with them.

One specific example is the conversation I had about income and wealth inequality. My brother in law simply didn't see anything wrong with high levels and was resistant to any discussion about how taxing them at lower rates was directly detrimental to his own situation. He's not at all stupid; he was a small business owner and is now in the State Department and doing very well in his career.

This situation vexes me greatly.
 

ttystikk

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they did something good for their rich friends. they think we are dumb enough to believe they did this to help us.when was the last time a politician told the truth?
The trouble with your statement is that a large group of voters in fact DO believe this somehow helps them!

How to change that? There's little doubt that working class conservatives are indeed screwing themselves by supporting such politicians and policies but until they can be convinced of their error, they'll enthusiastically keep making it.

The Left needs to come up with a narrative that effectively combats this right wing, inequality serving propaganda.
 
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