THE ‘INNOCENT’ PHILANDO CASTILE NARRATIVE COMPLETELY FALLS APART

b4ds33d

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What happened to the cops body camera footage? Easy to make a false report they would have sprinkled some crack on him if that bitch didn't pull out her phone. :bigjoint:
i agree. the missing body cam footage is inexcusable. i think all cops should wear body cam with geotagging and the footage should be uploaded to a public server (not hillary's) for the public to see.
 

RickyBobby26

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i don't think there is a single person on this site that condones the killing of an innocent person by the cops. i've been on both sides of the law, and can say the cops that shot the gentleman in LA and MN were most likely both in the wrong. but to jump to the "hang those fucking pigs" side of the argument is extremely rash. i'm simply providing some levity to the situation and discussing what happened. you might not agree, and that's fine. my beliefs don't require your consent. and no, he didn't have a CCW. and he also didn't get pulled over for a broken tail light. sorry.
True.

I can't stand the fucking pigs. At least not most of them. I was recently stopped for a minor traffic violation, and the fucking cop yelled at me like I was his step child.

But I don't think white cops are secretly fixated on making the most of any opportunity to kill a black person. They're just scared and sometimes overreact. And I realize that sometimes, that has a racist cause.
 

bluntmassa1

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i don't think there is a single person on this site that condones the killing of an innocent person by the cops. i've been on both sides of the law, and can say the cops that shot the gentleman in LA and MN were most likely both in the wrong. but to jump to the "hang those fucking pigs" side of the argument is extremely rash. i'm simply providing some levity to the situation and discussing what happened. you might not agree, and that's fine. my beliefs don't require your consent. and no, he didn't have a CCW. and he also didn't get pulled over for a broken tail light. sorry.
He didn't pull him over for being a possible robbery suspect did they? I'm not 100% sure but I think they still need a valid reason to legally pull you over not just he has a "wide nose".
 

bundee1

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i don't think there is a single person on this site that condones the killing of an innocent person by the cops. i've been on both sides of the law, and can say the cops that shot the gentleman in LA and MN were most likely both in the wrong. but to jump to the "hang those fucking pigs" side of the argument is extremely rash. i'm simply providing some levity to the situation and discussing what happened. you might not agree, and that's fine. my beliefs don't require your consent. and no, he didn't have a CCW. and he also didn't get pulled over for a broken tail light. sorry.
I didn't say any of the shootings were justified, I didnt say hang the pigs (although manslaughter is probably there)and I didn't say he had a broken taillight. I'm asking why all confrontations escalate so quickly to the point of murder? Are they trained that it's always a me or them situation? Forget color for a minute then inject it back in to explain the number skews but this is happening to everybody. BLM is just saying it happens to black people more.

And why smear the victim? it's obvious the America's cops have a training problem at the least, a racism problem definitely, and a problem with reigning itself in.

Are there no intelligent leading minds in law enforcement who can come up with a plan to DE escalate everything? This country is full of corrupt pandering loudmouths including the police associations.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Until police audio, or better yet body/car video, is released I'll say that since I wasn't there, I don't know what happened and neither the news media or the aftermath cell vid prove anything about the actual event so far.
While that seems to be a rational stance to take on the situation, amongst our liberal friends that makes you a racist and an apologist. Never mind that they have no idea what actually happened beyond what the grieving companion stated on the video. Maybe she was 100% accurate, maybe the cop fucked up, maybe he is white and only playing the part of a Latino (al la Elizabeth Warren style) or maybe she's full of shit.

I think I'll withhold my outrage until something beyond liberal conjecture can be established.
 

b4ds33d

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I didn't say any of the shootings were justified, I didnt say hang the pigs (although manslaughter is probably there)and I didn't say he had a broken taillight. I'm asking why all confrontations escalate so quickly to the point of murder? Are they trained that it's always a me or them situation? Forget color for a minute then inject it back in to explain the number skews but this is happening to everybody. BLM is just saying it happens to black people more.

And why smear the victim? it's obvious the America's cops have a training problem at the least, a racism problem definitely, and a problem with reigning itself in.

Are there no intelligent leading minds in law enforcement who can come up with a plan to DE escalate everything? This country is full of corrupt pandering loudmouths including the police associations.
the simple fact is, the facts do not and never have supported blackliesmatter's claim that it happens to blacks more. 60% of the deaths by cop are white, 26% are black. that is a fact. it can't be denied. so we can put to bed that false narrative.

yes, cops need better training, without a doubt. they also need continued training. they need mandatory sabbaticals. and on the negative side they need REAL punishment when they fuck up- as few jobs have the stakes their's has. i was a RN and when we fuck up, there is swift and harsh punishment. you fuck up real bad and they take your license and you are never a nurse, EVER AGAIN. the same needs to happen w them.

i'm not smearing the victim, i'm stating facts. if said facts happen to be negative, should we just ignore them and not discuss them?
 

b4ds33d

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He didn't pull him over for being a possible robbery suspect did they? I'm not 100% sure but I think they still need a valid reason to legally pull you over not just he has a "wide nose".
there was a robbery, and a be on the lookout call went out. he matched the description, same beard style and hair i believe. when they pulled him, which in that case they had probable cause, he had a gun in his lap. that's all i know. i wasn't there, but can say shooting the man most likely did not need to happen.
 

bluntmassa1

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the simple fact is, the facts do not and never have supported blackliesmatter's claim that it happens to blacks more. 60% of the deaths by cop are white, 26% are black. that is a fact. it can't be denied. so we can put to bed that false narrative.

yes, cops need better training, without a doubt. they also need continued training. they need mandatory sabbaticals. and on the negative side they need REAL punishment when they fuck up- as few jobs have the stakes their's has. i was a RN and when we fuck up, there is swift and harsh punishment. you fuck up real bad and they take your license and you are never a nurse, EVER AGAIN. the same needs to happen w them.

i'm not smearing the victim, i'm stating facts. if said facts happen to be negative, should we just ignore them and not discuss them?
Cops need to stop taking steroids and start smoking weed.
 

UncleBuck

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the simple fact is, the facts do not and never have supported blackliesmatter's claim that it happens to blacks more. 60% of the deaths by cop are white, 26% are black. that is a fact. it can't be denied. so we can put to bed that false narrative.
so black males are 6-7% f the population and account for 26% of all deaths by cop, many of them unarmed or already in handcuffs, and you claim it is not disproportional?

maybe go take a remedial math class somewhere.

i'm not smearing the victim, i'm stating facts. if said facts happen to be negative, should we just ignore them and not discuss them?
well, it has been established that you are not stating facts and you have yet to disclose your source(s), so we can actually dismiss everything you have to say at this point.

that which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence, racist.
 

bluntmassa1

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there was a robbery, and a be on the lookout call went out. he matched the description, same beard style and hair i believe. when they pulled him, which in that case they had probable cause, he had a gun in his lap. that's all i know. i wasn't there, but can say shooting the man most likely did not need to happen.
He looks like one of the possible robbery suspects just cause he has a wide nose....

Yeah I don't believe they had a valid reason to pull him over.
 

UncleBuck

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While that seems to be a rational stance to take on the situation, amongst our liberal friends that makes you a racist
i would say that him calling obama a gay kenyan muslim makes him a racist, so it is no surprise that you befriend him so readily.

Elizabeth Warren
what does she have to do with anything here, besides that you are an asshurt racist?
 

b4ds33d

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He looks like one of the possible robbery suspects just cause he has a wide nose....

Yeah I don't believe they had a valid reason to pull him over.
a wide nose? yup you are right, that's all they had in common. have you bothered to look?


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Fogdog

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i don't think there is a single person on this site that condones the killing of an innocent person by the cops. i've been on both sides of the law, and can say the cops that shot the gentleman in LA and MN were most likely both in the wrong. but to jump to the "hang those fucking pigs" side of the argument is extremely rash. i'm simply providing some levity to the situation and discussing what happened. you might not agree, and that's fine. my beliefs don't require your consent. and no, he didn't have a CCW. and he also didn't get pulled over for a broken tail light. sorry.
50 years after the civil rights acts, we aren't done with confronting racism. Black people still worry about the safety of their young during an encounter with the police.

Maybe its time to change behavior towards these crimes? Maybe start with a review by an outside review board that represents the diversity of a community whenever a cop kills somebody? When they are found at fault, there should be no appeal to anybody associated with the justice system. At minimum, punishment should be automatic removal from the force. And if a crime is committed, the punishment should be worse than given to a civilian. Perhaps this might start weeding out, as @doublejj puts it, those with the "social conditioning" to kill black people by mistake, don't you think so?

Internal investigations or even ones by the FBI don't carry water.
 

Fogdog

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so black males are 6-7% f the population and account for 26% of all deaths by cop, many of them unarmed or already in handcuffs, and you claim it is not disproportional?

maybe go take a remedial math class somewhere.



well, it has been established that you are not stating facts and you have yet to disclose your source(s), so we can actually dismiss everything you have to say at this point.

that which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence, racist.
Keep repeating the statistical proof of racism in these killings. Racist retards don't get it but it's convincing enough for others to understand.

I'm willing to bet one of these morons were in the remedial math class that volunteered to assist the teacher. Most of the class could add. We lost a few when we taught subtraction. By the time we got to fractions, the worst idiots that didn't get it acted like the fractions were dumb not them. You guessed it, it was the white boys who were the worst.
 
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