The Jena 6

GrowRebel

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Yes. they have a right to protest but they do NOT have a right to hospitalize someone they're angry at.
What about the white kids? Why did they have a right to hospitalize someone they were angry with and not face any kind of penalty? Why don't you address that?

Sure the blacks must account for the beating ... but why aren't the white kids being held accoutable for beating the black kid? Answer that question.:-|:spew::?
 

Kant

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What about the white kids? Why did they have a right to hospitalize someone they were angry with and not face any kind of penalty? Why don't you address that?

Sure the blacks must account for the beating ... but why aren't the white kids being held accoutable for beating the black kid? Answer that question.:-|:spew::?
I've read up on and i don't remember then white kids hospitalizing a black kid but IF they did then yes, they too should be prosecuted. I do think the kids that hung up the nooses should have been expelled, however that doesn't absolve/justify the actions of the black kids.
 

Kant

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The only reason i focused on the jena 6 is because the court case is about what they did NOT about what other people did.
 

Resinman

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Jena Six refers to a group of six black teenagers who were allegedly involved in the beating of a white teenager in Jena, Louisiana, on December 4, 2006, and were subsequently arrested, charged, and in some cases convicted, for their participation in the event.
While U.S. Attorney Donald Washington has stated there is no evidence of unfair prosecution or sentencing,[1] there have been protests by those who argue that the arrests and subsequent charges were racially motivated, noting the lack of arrests and serious charges against white youths in Jena in earlier incidents in the town.
The only defendant tried so far has had his convictions overturned, one by the trial judge[2] and the other by the Louisiana Court of Appeal[3] in Lake Charles, both on grounds that the defendant should have been tried as a juvenile, not as an adult.[2][1][4] The defendant in that case, Mychal Bell, remains incarcerated while the District Attorney considers whether to appeal, or to try Bell as a juvenile.

Background
According to National Public Radio, racial tensions in Jena were at high levels prior to the Jena Six incident due to a number of racially charged events in the small town.[5]

The "white tree" incident

At Jena High School, about 10% of enrolled students are African Americans and more than 85% are white. Early reporting asserted that students of different races seldom sat together, although this has been disputed.[6] According to early reports, black students typically sat on bleachers near the auditorium, while white students sat under a large tree, referred to as the "white tree" or "prep tree", in the center of the school courtyard.[5] On September 22, 2007, however, the AP reported that the "white tree" was no such thing, and that according to teachers and administrators at the school, students of all races had sat under it at one time or another.[6]
During a school assembly on August 31, 2006, a black male freshman student asked permission from the principal to sit under the "white tree."[7] According to the recounting of events given by U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the question was posed in a "jocular fashion."[8] The principal told the students they could "sit wherever they wanted."[7] The freshman and his friends then sat under the tree.[9]
The following morning, nooses (reports differ whether there were three[5] or two[6]) were discovered hanging from the tree. It has been reported that Jena's principal learned that three white students were responsible and recommended expulsion, that the board of education overruled his recommendation, and that Superintendent Roy Breithaupt agreed with the overruling. It was initially reported that the punishment was reduced to three days of in-school suspension.[5][10] According to the Associated Press, however, the three students were isolated at an alternative school for a month, and then spent two weeks on in-school suspension.[6]
The school superintendent was quoted as saying, "Adolescents play pranks. I don't think it was a threat against anybody."[11] Black residents of Jena claim that this decision stoked racial tensions that led to subsequent events.[10] However, a black teacher described seeing both white and black students "playing with [the nooses], pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them."[6]
According to U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the FBI agents who investigated the incident, as well as federal officials who examined it, found that it "had all the markings of a hate crime." However, it wasn't prosecuted because it failed to meet federal standards required for the teens to be certified as adults.[12] Washington, a Bush appointee, is himself black.[13]
In late July 2007, U.S. Attorney Donald Washington noted that of the more than 40 statements taken regarding the assault, none mentioned the noose incident.[8] LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters stated there was no linkage between the noose incident and the beating. "When this case was brought to me and during our investigation and during the trial, there was no such linkage ever suggested. This compact story line has only been suggested after the fact."[14]

The "pen statement"

Police were called to the school several times in the days after the noose incident in response to a rash of interracial fights between students.[8] The principal took action by calling an impromptu assembly on September 6, 2006, in which students segregated themselves into white and black sections. The Jena Police Department asked LaSalle Parish District Attorney J. Reed Walters to attend and speak at the assembly. Allegedly, Walters was unhappy with the request because he was busy preparing for a case and, upon arrival, felt that the students were not paying proper attention to him.[8] Walters is alleged to have threatened the students with legal consequences if they didn't stop "fussing" over an "innocent prank".[15] He warned the students that he could be their friend or their worst enemy, and he stated that "[w]ith one stroke of my pen, I can make your life disappear."[5] Though black students state Walters was looking at them when he made the comments, Walters and school board member Billy Fowler, also present, deny it.[5]
Police began patrolling the halls of Jena High on September 7. The following day, the school received a report that a student had brought a gun on campus, prompting a total lockdown, though no gun was ever found.[16]


 

Resinman

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<H3>Students attempt to address school board

On September 10, 2006, black students attempted to address the school board concerning the recent events but were refused because the board was of the opinion that the noose incident had been adequately resolved.[17] Racial tensions and fights continued through the fall but were held in check by the ongoing successful football season.[5]

Jena High School arson

On November 30, 2006, a wing of the main building of the high school was set on fire. That portion of the building was gutted and had to be later demolished.[5][18]

Fair Barn party incident

On Friday, December 1, 2006 there was a private party, attended mostly by whites, at the Fair Barn. Five black youths, including 16-year-old Robert Bailey, attempted to enter the party at about 11 p.m. According to U.S. Attorney Washington, they were told by a woman that no one was allowed inside without an invitation. The five youths persisted, stating that some friends were already in attendance at the party. A white man, who was not a student, then jumped in front of the woman and a fight ensued. After the fight broke up, the woman told both the white man and five black youths to leave the party. Once outside, the black students were involved in another fight with a group of white men, who were not students.[8] Police were called to investigate. Several months later, Justin Sloan, a white male, was charged with battery for his role in the fight and was put on probation. Bailey later stated that one of the white men broke a beer bottle over his head,[10] but there were no official records of Bailey receiving medical treatment for the injury.[8]

Convenience store incident

On Saturday, December 2, 2006, another incident involving Bailey occurred at a local convenience store. A white student who had attended the Fair Barn party encountered Bailey and several friends. Reports from the involved parties are conflicting,[19] but indicate that an argument occurred, the white student produced a shotgun from his pickup truck, and that the gun was ultimately taken away from him by Bailey and his friends.[5] Local police reported that the accounts of the white student and black students contradicted each other and formed a report based on testimony taken from eyewitnesses. The white student claimed that Bailey and his friends shouted and ran after him, that he ran to get his gun, and that the students wrestled it away from him.[19] According to the black students, as they left the convenience store, they were confronted by the white student with a shotgun. They then claimed to have wrestled the gun away from him and fled the scene.[19] The incident resulted in Bailey being charged with three counts: theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery, and disturbing the peace. The white student who produced the weapon was not charged.[5][8]

The assault

On December 4, 2006, 17-year-old white Jena High School student Justin Barker was assaulted at school. He was struck on the back of the head and knocked down by a black student. According to some witnesses, a group of black students then repeatedly kicked him.[20]
Some individuals have stated that Barker had mocked Robert Bailey, Jr., who had been beaten up by a white man the previous Friday.[5] Barker denies making the comments.[20]

Barker's injuries

A doctor treated Barker, who was left unconscious after the attack, at the local hospital. He was released after two hours of treatment and observation for a concussion and an eye that had swollen shut.[10] The emergency physician's record shows that he also had injuries to his face, ears and hand.[21] He was able to attend his school's Ring ceremony that evening,[10] though he later testified, "I waited 11 years to go to it. I wasn't going to let that get in my way," and that he ended up leaving early due to pain.[22]
During the trial, Barker also testified that his face was badly swollen after the attack and that he lost vision in one eye for three weeks. He also stated that he suffered recurring headaches and forgetfulness[23] since the attack, though medical tests have not detected a definitive cause or proof of this statement.[22] A nurse testified that Barker had a previous history of migraines.[23]

Trial, prosecution, and legal proceedings

The police arrested the six students, eventually dubbed the "Jena Six", accused of the attack.[24] Five of them (Robert Bailey, Jr., then 17; Mychal Bell, then 16; Carwin Jones, then 18; Bryant Purvis, then 17; and Theo Shaw, then 17) were charged with attempted second-degree murder.[17] The sixth student, Jesse Ray Beard, was charged as a juvenile because he was 14 at the time.[25]
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Resinman

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Mychal Bell trial

Mychal Bell, a juvenile at the time of the incident, had been previously convicted of four violent crimes. Bell served probation for a battery that occurred December 25, 2005, and he was subsequently convicted of another battery charge and two charges of criminal damage to property.[26] On June 26, 2007, the first day of trial for defendant Mychal Bell, Walters agreed to reduce the charges for Bell to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery.[27] A charge of aggravated battery requires the use of a "deadly weapon". Walters therefore argued that the tennis shoes that Bell was wearing and used to kick Barker with were deadly weapons, an argument with which the all-white jury ultimately agreed.[28] Witness accounts conflicted over whether he was involved in the attack.[28] However, court-appointed public defender Blane Williams, himself a black man, did not call a single witness in his attempt to defend Bell.[28]
Though Bell faced an all-white jury, it did not result from the jury selection process. Instead, it resulted from an all-white jury pool. The 150 people called for jury duty did include black citizens, but only 50 people appeared, and none of them were black.[25][6] One of the jurors included a high school friend of the victim's father.[29] The jury found Bell guilty, and he faced the possibility of up to 22 years in prison. The judge scheduled sentencing for September 20, 2007.
Following the trial, Bell's new defense attorneys, Louis Scott and Carol Powell-Lexing, requested that a new trial on the grounds that Bell should not have been tried as an adult and that the trial should have been held in another parish.[30] A request to lower Mychal Bell's $90,000 bond was denied on August 24, 2007, due to his juvenile record.
On September 4, 2007,[31] a judge dismissed the conspiracy charge on the grounds that he should have been tried as a juvenile, but let the battery conviction stand.[2] However, on September 14, 2007, Louisiana's Third Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Bell's battery conviction, also ruling that he shouldn't have been tried as an adult. Louis Scott, Bell's attorney, has indicated that the charges are dropped for now, but also noted that the situation may change depending on what path the prosecution takes.[4] The La Salle Parish district attorney, J. Reed Walters, has said that he will appeal to the Louisiana Supreme Court.[32]
Following an order by the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeal,[33] a hearing was held on September 21, 2007, to determine whether to set bond for Bell.[34] The judge in the hearing denied the request for Bell to be freed while his appeal is being reviewed.[35]

The other five

On September 4, 2007, charges against Carwin Jones and Theo Shaw were reduced to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy,[36] as were those of Robert Bailey, Jr., on September 10.[37]
Despite the overturning of Mychal Bell's conviction, the charges against the other four teenagers remained unaffected because they were over seventeen at the time of the incident, thus making them adults under Louisiana law.[4]

Public response

The incident has brought considerable public comment and even demonstrations among those who believe that the charges against the Jena Six were disproportionate to the alleged crime and racially motivated.[38]

Petition

In the wake of these events, an online petition circulated claiming over 410,188 signatures as of September 23, 2007.[39] The petition calls for a review of the events by the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Justice Department in order to determine whether there were any civil rights violations during the trials.

Defense fund

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) established a fund to help pay attorney fees.[40] On September 18, musician David Bowie donated $10,000 to it and made a statement, "There is clearly a separate and unequal judicial process going on in the town of Jena. A donation to the Jena Six Legal Defense Fund is my small gesture indicating my belief that a wrongful charge and sentence should be prevented."[41]

 

Resinman

Well-Known Member
after reading the truth

they are guilty of assault,,,they were over sentenced,,which happens to all colors of people everyday in the judicial system

but they are violent thugs who deserved a lesson,,,

resinman
 

medicineman

New Member
after reading the truth

they are guilty of assault,,,they were over sentenced,,which happens to all colors of people everyday in the judicial system

but they are violent thugs who deserved a lesson,,,

resinman
Exactly, 60-90 days maximum, not 22 years. Stomping an unconscience person on a concrete sidewalk can result in life altering injuries. I've read that one of the youths was standing on his head. If someone had a problem with him, go one on one toe to toe, not hit him in the back of the head as he exits the door and then bring 5 friends to stomp him, thats chickenshit and they should do the afore mentioned time, They're lucky they didn't kill him. They'd be doing 20-life.
 

ViRedd

New Member
JJgrands sez ...

"While Tyrone and his homeboys families rock it out in the projects, eating substandard gmo gruel and pushing cia grown mexicali seed schwags and crack."

~lol~ I think I got turned on to some of that schwag last January up in Las Vegas.

Vi

PS: I'll know that racism has ended in this country the day I can take my four white grand kids down into the heart of South Central Los Angeles for some great BBQ and sweet potato pie and feel perfectly safe in doing so.
 

medicineman

New Member
JJgrands sez ...

"While Tyrone and his homeboys families rock it out in the projects, eating substandard gmo gruel and pushing cia grown mexicali seed schwags and crack."

~lol~ I think I got turned on to some of that schwag last January up in Las Vegas.

Vi
Schwag, my ass. It knocked you for a loop and you know it. Sorry you couldn't handle it, that stuff you left me, I let a friend try it and he said " mid grade schwag", I'd have to agree, I ate two cookies and never even got off, either you were using schwag or forgot to put the pot in the mix.

PS: I'll know that racism has ended in this country the day I can take my four white grand kids down into the heart of South Central Los Angeles for some great BBQ and sweet potato pie and feel perfectly safe in doing so.
Schwag is as schwag does
 

ViRedd

New Member
Yeah, right Med. A sample of perfectly cured Trainwreck and canna cookies made with clarified cannabutter and a quarter oz of Super Silver Haze thrown into the mix for extra punch. Yeppers ... it was schwag alright. ~lol~

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Yeah, right Med. A sample of perfectly cured Trainwreck and canna cookies made with clarified cannabutter and a quarter oz of Super Silver Haze thrown into the mix for extra punch. Yeppers ... it was schwag alright. ~lol~

Vi
Well, I've smoked for 35 years, I guess I ought to know schwag. One insult deserves another, dorkwad.
 

InvaderMark

Well-Known Member
i never understood the rational for labeling some crimes as "hate" crimes. Technically speaking don't most person on person crimes involve some amount of hate?
i totally agree with you.. people usually dont harm those they like, just the ones they dont.:peace:
 
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