The landrace team?

I had them done in about 50 days. I use 9/15 lights, so it speeds things up. This is like C99 in speed of flower. It seems to be a worked line and not from a remote village in Africa. It could be both, it could have been from a village and now has been worked. It could have been crossed to a skunk.

It is a great strain imo. That is what matters. No tolerance and it is trippy for a few minutes at start, then comes a smooth euphoria and energy with no crash.

I have some growing and at 37 days of flower it is really close to picking. I do not wait on amber resin and need only a third or half of the pistils to turn dark. I will chop the tops off of the plants soon and leave the lower buds to mature the seeds growing there, and likely reveg some of them.

As to riddly contacting people, he tried to get my Panama Red from me. I got it from Snowhigh and told him to contact Snow, I do not want to undercut Snow making money. I think he has little idea of what some of his many strains can produce and is in it to make money primarily. I do not condone his actions but he does have a large seed collection and at least some of them are very nice, Congo Black for one.

Snowhigh has come under similar scrutiny on how he collected so many strains. High prices with him and riddly and not a great deal of concern to selling lines that were given to him for his own use, not selling them. Whatever, people need money and they need hard to locate landrace genetics, so here we are.

yesum said:

I had them done in about 50 days. I use 9/15 lights, so it speeds things up. This is like C99 in speed of flower. It seems to be a worked line and not from a remote village in Africa. It could be both, it could have been from a village and now has been worked. It could have been crossed to a skunk.

It is a great strain imo. That is what matters. No tolerance and it is trippy for a few minutes at start, then comes a smooth euphoria and energy with no crash.

I have some growing and at 37 days of flower it is really close to picking. I do not wait on amber resin and need only a third or half of the pistils to turn dark. I will chop the tops off of the plants soon and leave the lower buds to mature the seeds growing there, and likely reveg some of them.

As to riddly contacting people, he tried to get my Panama Red from me. I got it from Snowhigh and told him to contact Snow, I do not want to undercut Snow making money. I think he has little idea of what some of his many strains can produce and is in it to make money primarily. I do not condone his actions but he does have a large seed collection and at least some of them are very nice, Congo Black for one.

Snowhigh has come under similar scrutiny on how he collected so many strains. High prices with him and riddly and not a great deal of concern to selling lines that were given to him for his own use, not selling them. Whatever, people need money and they need hard to locate landrace genetics, so here we are.

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Thanks for this info! I've been looking for legit Congo Black for years and was thinking about either these guys or Snow High. I actually have an order in with Snow High now for his Panama Red. Since you have experience with it as well, I was wondering if you've also grown Ace's Panama, which I have experience with, and how you would compare Snow High's with Ace's? Thanks for all the background info too, always good to know who you are buying from.

I liked Snow's Panama better but not by much. Both are potent and trippy. ACE version has a pink and green pheno. I thought the green was a little better. Colors of calyxes. Dr Greenthumb has a Panama and that is very much like the Snow PR. Snow has not answered my emails for a few months, not sure if he is active or sick again.

I cant believe theres still folks on here growing shit from these guys there blatantly thieves take folks genetics and then pay them nothing or just straight jack peoples work theres a thread also on icmag about who they scammed etc for anyone' who is in any doubt or wants to learn more also

yesum said:

I had them done in about 50 days. I use 9/15 lights, so it speeds things up. This is like C99 in speed of flower. It seems to be a worked line and not from a remote village in Africa. It could be both, it could have been from a village and now has been worked. It could have been crossed to a skunk.

It is a great strain imo. That is what matters. No tolerance and it is trippy for a few minutes at start, then comes a smooth euphoria and energy with no crash.

I have some growing and at 37 days of flower it is really close to picking. I do not wait on amber resin and need only a third or half of the pistils to turn dark. I will chop the tops off of the plants soon and leave the lower buds to mature the seeds growing there, and likely reveg some of them.

As to riddly contacting people, he tried to get my Panama Red from me. I got it from Snowhigh and told him to contact Snow, I do not want to undercut Snow making money. I think he has little idea of what some of his many strains can produce and is in it to make money primarily. I do not condone his actions but he does have a large seed collection and at least some of them are very nice, Congo Black for one.

Snowhigh has come under similar scrutiny on how he collected so many strains. High prices with him and riddly and not a great deal of concern to selling lines that were given to him for his own use, not selling them. Whatever, people need money and they need hard to locate landrace genetics, so here we are.

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I agree probably hybridised legit congo would be longer flowering you would think so your guess is probably right man

Not everyone has access rare landrace genetics and have to get them from someone. I now can ask of people that have such genetics and get quite a few, but not before. I hate asking for seeds, hehe. When I post about using these TLT seeds I do the disclaimer thing.

They provide a service that is good. The methods of getting the seeds was bad in some cases, no doubt. The landrace scene is closed to a lot of people, and seedbanks are the only option. Snow/ACE has been the subject of the same criticism and I think for good reason. Maybe others too. Not good to have such genetics for only a few.

mustafunk would be in this thread but I do not think he is a member here. I have argued with him before. Good guy but this is the real world, not an idealized one.

yesum said:

Not everyone has access rare landrace genetics and have to get them from someone. I now can ask of people that have such genetics and get quite a few, but not before. I hate asking for seeds, hehe. When I post about using these TLT seeds I do the disclaimer thing.

They provide a service that is good. The methods of getting the seeds was bad in some cases, no doubt. The landrace scene is closed to a lot of people, and seedbanks are the only option. Snow/ACE has been the subject of the same criticism and I think for good reason. Maybe others too. Not good to have such genetics for only a few.

mustafunk would be in this thread but I do not think he is a member here. I have argued with him before. Good guy but this is the real world, not an idealized one.

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I think it will all become available in the future through decent sources but everyones entitled to there opinion of course from all i heard these guys were worse than snow ace etc for there record of taking stuff and all that

I have a few Durban beans coming in from these guys. Reading through the post am relieved that indeed they do carry the 100% Landrace Sativas.

The Corinto Purple from them is very strong stuff. Very sativa and over all nice high with euphoria. Trippy with low tolerance. I had to lay off it as I was getting too spacy even after coming down.

TheWholeTruth said:

Just to make clear, im not saying tlrt facility isnt good an usefull an im not saying the genetics are bad (although in some cases the names may be altered slightly to sound more original an appealing to collectors, eg BCO's Colombian black was renamed Llanera), the genetics can be good an in some cases quite rare. They will send you what you order an will keep in contact with you till the product reaches your destination. Its just the way the guy behind it went about sourcing alot of the genetics, then puting them on the open market without proper credit or in alot of cases without permision. His methods of getting those genetics by any means necessary, then putting them on the market many times at a huge mark up( eg many strains from ace seeds an cannabiogen that were originaly priced much much cheaper) an his whole mind set an motive seem to be driven around making money. Maybe over time he may change, but i doubt it.

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After doing a bit of research the name Llanera is how the locals call it. It says where it comes from: "Los Llanos". It's a vast tropical grassland plain situated to the east of the Andes in Colombia and Venezuela (Wikipedia). The name "Colombian Black" is how westerners call it. So it's not renamed to make it sound appealing. Usually those straines are named after the places/areas/regions/districts where they originally come from

kevinsharp said:

After doing a bit of research the name Llanera is how the locals call it. It says where it comes from: "Los Llanos". It's a vast tropical grassland plain situated to the east of the Andes in Colombia and Venezuela (Wikipedia). The name "Colombian Black" is how westerners call it. So it's not renamed to make it sound appealing. Usually those straines are named after the places/areas/regions/districts where they originally come from

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What i mean is, they never colected it. Its the line bco sold as colombian black. Thats exactly were it comes from, they didnt collect it themselves. When the got the seeds they wasnt called anything but colombian black, from bco.

TheWholeTruth said:

What i mean is, they never colected it. Its the line bco sold as colombian black. Thats exactly were it comes from, they didnt collect it themselves. When the got the seeds they wasnt called anything but colombian black, from bco.

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They steal lines there known for it they did it to derg corra collective and there aunt of farouk pakistani line and id bet at least 80% of there lines are ripped off from someone somewhere along the line there crooks imo plain and simple and not the good kind like we all were/some still are technically lol

conor c said:

They steal lines there known for it they did it to derg corra collective and there aunt of farouk pakistani line and id bet at least 80% of there lines are ripped off from someone somewhere along the line there crooks imo plain and simple and not the good kind like we all were/some still are technically lol

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I agree with you totaly. Most people havent been around on the boards long enough like me and you to see the silly games the guy used to play.

Im actualy disapointed with some of the people ive seen who do reproductions for them and breeding and give them donations.

Has anyone preserved the colombian black from tlt, maybe via 1-1 matings.

kevinsharp said:

After doing a bit of research the name Llanera is how the locals call it. It says where it comes from: "Los Llanos". It's a vast tropical grassland plain situated to the east of the Andes in Colombia and Venezuela (Wikipedia). The name "Colombian Black" is how westerners call it. So it's not renamed to make it sound appealing. Usually those straines are named after the places/areas/regions/districts where they originally come from

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I call my latest chuck,
"Calina de Aliento Colombiano"
But only its ancestors are 'lombian.

TheWholeTruth said:

What i mean is, they never colected it. Its the line bco sold as colombian black. Thats exactly were it comes from, they didnt collect it themselves. When the got the seeds they wasnt called anything but colombian black, from bco.

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You got me curious and emailed them about the Llanera, they said a member of the team collected it in Colombia. What does BCO mean?

kevinsharp said:

You got me curious and emailed them about the Llanera, they said a member of the team collected it in Colombia. What does BCO mean?

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I wouldnt trust a word they say they aint going to admit to stealing so easily dont believe me ask derg corra collective cos aunt of farouk is there line gifted to him by lala from his friend farouk who has been growing that strain for 40+ years in his garden in pakistan and they ripped it they are reproducing it without permission therefore stealing in my book be the same with the lumbo and others im sure

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You got me curious and emailed them about the Llanera, they said a member of the team collected it in Colombia. What does BCO mean?

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Bco is now a defunct seed company. They were called breeders choice org. It wasrun by hot house flowers aka quejo and kagu who now runs coastal seed company . The landrace team even use the thumbnail picture that bco had up.
This one


They even use near enough the same description too. You can find details of bco on seedfinder
Even those African plants growing in the pictures the landrace team have up, they arnt even their pictures, neither are they in Africa. Those pictures are a guy growing im the usa who grows legally for extraction purposes. If anyone wants proof they can message me and I can link you to live vids of those plants at multiple stages with the guy who ha grown them.

Dont get me wrong about that Colombian black, its actually good. Its ashame due to the different ways people have reproduced the bco line some of the best phenotypes like in the picture above and a couple of others are really hard to find now. Out of all the Colombian black since bco shut down and others reproduced and put out the line, out of hundreds of grows over ten plus years now ive seen two excellent plants wich were much more comon originally.

TheWholeTruth said:

Bco is now a defunct seed company. They were called breeders choice org. It wasrun by hot house flowers aka quejo and kagu who now runs coastal seed company . The landrace team even use the thumbnail picture that bco had up.
This one
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They even use near enough the same description too. You can find details of bco on seedfinder
Even those African plants growing in the pictures the landrace team have up, they arnt even their pictures, neither are they in Africa. Those pictures are a guy growing im the usa who grows legally for extraction purposes. If anyone wants proof they can message me and I can link you to live vids of those plants at multiple stages with the guy who ha grown them.

Dont get me wrong about that Colombian black, its actually good. Its ashame due to the different ways people have reproduced the bco line some of the best phenotypes like in the picture above and a couple of others are really hard to find now. Out of all the Colombian black since bco shut down and others reproduced and put out the line, out of hundreds of grows over ten plus years now ive seen two excellent plants wich were much more comon originally.

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Interesting, I have some Durban Poison Highland from them (Landrace Team), you think those came from this guy too? they were shipped in from Greece.

Week4@inCharge said:

Interesting, I have some Durban Poison Highland from them (Landrace Team), you think those came from this guy too? they were shipped in from Greece.

DURBAN POISON

Genetics: Durban Poison Highland Sourcing: private donorLatitude: 29°SHeight: up to 3 metresTraditional use: Ganja budsSowing season: October/November in South AfricaRegional ... Read more

www.tltseeds.com

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If they didnt id bet they ripped from tropical seeds or someone else


Heres there description



I done some digging on icmag this where there jamican comes from

Post in thread 'The Landrace Team' https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-landrace-team.18127605/post-18527953

They ripped that guy off too

conor c said:

If they didnt id bet they ripped from tropical seeds or someone else


Heres there description

DURBAN POISON '70s - Tropical Seeds Company - Regular & Feminized Premium Cannabis Seeds

The most famous strain of all the times !

www.tropicalseedscompany.com

I done some digging on icmag this where there jamican comes from

Post in thread 'The Landrace Team' https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-landrace-team.18127605/post-18527953

They ripped that guy off too

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I think with the Jamaican thats the only guy thed haven't completely stung (but we'll see how long that lasts). Im kind of disappointed in the guy it comes from, but in this day and age I shouldn't be surprised. The guy sells his Jamaican and some other hybrids on tlt site with both splitting the money (we'll see for how long that lasts)thats why they are priced so high as they are both trying to get as much as possible. The guy has put some hybrids made with ace stock as if their pure landrace hybrids and as if the one hybrid uses nevils own selected nevils haze cutting. Its actually not nevils selected cut it was selected by someone else from old nevils haze seed. Alot of the strains from ace are actually worked hybrids with reefermans old Nepalese x nl, or swiss strawberries, or pck, nl , ssh ect which most people have no clue about. The double thai tlt also sell comes from the same guy, hence the price. I suppose the guy used his head and instead of just sending tlt his seeds so they could sell them themselves, he made it so he gets paid per pack and got them to try and sell his hybrids too.
The Jamaican they have the guy found in seeds in the uk from Jamaican import. He must of been very very lucky to find a good male along with a female in high quality Jamaican import. Though it sometimes in some phenos reminds me of reefermans lambs bread. Its like its halfway between the old lambsbread going around and reefermans lambsbread. It looks good though whatever it exactly is.

Edit from your link conor t, it already looks like the relationship is turning sour with the guy complaining he isnt getting paid for his cut of the packs. But he has been on the boards and cannabis scene long enough to know all about ridly and these types of situations and would have wittnesed ridlys actions himself. Should of known better. Guess he didnt want to sell his seeds wholesale to the guy (or someone much better) and got swayed by his near £100 per ten seeds cut. Oh well.