The law in play.

GregS

Well-Known Member
Today is the day. Please contact your house rep if you haven't already, and again if you have. A vote is likely tomorrow in Committee, and likely on the House floor. My preference is to be behind 5104, and to include changes to permit caregivers and patients to supply provisioning centers, which is reportedly being talked about in committee to be added to 5104. I could not be more strongly against 660, which is the big government and corporate plan, and while there are things I certainly don't like about 4271, if provision is made to permit caregivers and patients to supply provisioning centers, I can live with it.

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buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
Yes very important to call these fucks and try and talk(?) with their ombudsman/liaison....I did

but unfortunately I told him NO on dispensary provisioning centers--

....too much power for them and I allready saw what they did out west when it started
....I was at the first one the vapor room and the act up collective


but I urge the whole forum to call....regardless of your viewpoint-

no yu have no idea what will happen when they bring these online and "you think" they will allow caregivers to supply them....immediately 95% won't even qualify....


have you ever waited in line with like 5-6 lbs for hrs while the high holy dispensary 'purchasing agent' did his little egotistical dance while 20-30 people waited with high hopes for their shwag ......?


You will be waiting in line with oz's here in ounce land....hahahahaha:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

wait and see you will give them carte Blanche nepotism to grow and sell their egos....not your meds


i told the rep from canton I did not want provisioning centers in my area even tho they are there allready--

i also said I was against what the SC did by making it harder for average pts to transfer between each other so they can regulate and control the plant.....not gonna happen


watch and see the black market gonna explode when these things come online.....selling 4-500$ 'medicine' till it drops to 139$oz for them:lol::lol::lol::lol:


Good job tho 800lb-man! Keepin it real....:joint:
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
The committee and petitioners did sharpen their pencils since last week's hearing. That the MSP did nothing other than to ask to clarify definitions was a pleasant surprise. Callton did say that 4271 would permit caregiver/patient overages to be sold to the proposed provisioning centers?? If that were the case, 5104 would have to be amended to permit that. Would it not?
 

HGK420

Well-Known Member
how smoothly did 660 go? was there arguments? votes? i dont know how it works really just curious.
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
how smoothly did 660 go? was there arguments? votes? i dont know how it works really just curious.
Representative Jeff Irwin made a play to add an amendment that would have permitted participation in both the MMMA and under 660 if it is passed. The committee rejected it. All o the patients who spoke about it stated their opposition to it, and for the very most part supporting 5104 and 4271. That 660 has been passed to the floor for a vote along with the other two is despicable.

These people need to know that we are sensitive to the issue, and that we vote above the 60 percentile in favor of patient rights.
 

Lionden

Well-Known Member
Should be bill 666 not 660 that bill seems to be the beginning of the end for us small timers, wish I could do more to stop this dreadful bill.
 

RenMasters

Member
On bill 660... With the requirement of federal reclassification built in I don't think it will play out like people think. Once the federal government reclassifies it then we're probably looking at federal decriminalization for the most part. By then there will probably be more states that have already legalized it.

I think there will be so many variables changing that I doubt the small growers will be wiped out. Plus... once people start to learn that the quality is actually lower than what you'll get from a home grower the cat will be out of the bag. Also, there will always be people that have an appreciation for the top quality so there will always be a market.

I don't like 660 at all but I don't think it will have the impact some people believe.

When will the vote happen? Is it simple majority?
 

GregS

Well-Known Member
On bill 660... With the requirement of federal reclassification built in I don't think it will play out like people think. Once the federal government reclassifies it then we're probably looking at federal decriminalization for the most part. By then there will probably be more states that have already legalized it.

I think there will be so many variables changing that I doubt the small growers will be wiped out. Plus... once people start to learn that the quality is actually lower than what you'll get from a home grower the cat will be out of the bag. Also, there will always be people that have an appreciation for the top quality so there will always be a marke

I don't like 660 at all but I don't think it will have the impact some people believe.

When will the vote happen? Is it simple majority?
Hard to say just when a floor vote will happen, but it could be just about any time now. Your rep is the best source to find out. It is a simple majority.
 

somepotname

Active Member
I hope the floor votes on it before the recess. Snyder has been really quite on marijuana his entire administration. It will be interesting what he does to these bills if they reach his desk.
 

RenMasters

Member
MIRS BREAKING NEWS: Medical Marijuana Reforms Win Big In The House -- 4:28
p.m.
www.mirsnews.com/alert.php?alert_id=1665
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Some lopsided votes on medical marijuana in the House this afternoon left
Rep. Mike CALLTON (R-Nashville) talking about a "paradigm shift."

Over the years, the focus in the medical marijuana debate has become more
and more about the patients instead of recreational use, Callton said of the
shift.

"When you see a mother bring her child in that was having hundreds of
seizures a day and is now having three seizures a week," Callton explained,
"then, you've got to believe."

This afternoon House members voted 95-14 for HB 5271, Callton's bill, which
gives local governments the power to regulate marijuana "provisioning
centers" to service medical marijuana patients.

Soon after, the House voted 100-9 for HB 5104, sponsored by Rep. Eileen
KOWALL (R-White Lake), which lays out how much non-smoked medical marijuana
is acceptable for use.

And finally, House members voted 87-22 for SB 0660, sponsored by Sen. Roger
KAHN (R-Saginaw), which would allow prescription-grade marijuana to be sold
at a pharmacy if the federal government knocks it down from a Schedule 1 to
a Schedule 2 drug.

Callton's bill aims to provide a better legal framework for the distribution
of medical marijuana through provisioning centers. The state's past laws on
dispensaries have faced various legal challenges that have made it more
difficult for them operate effectively.

In an interview this afternoon, Callton, a chiropractor by trade, said his
focus is on patients who need medical care.

"This is a bill that is going to help families that are in need in
Michigan," Callton said.

Fourteen House members voted against the measure. They were Minority Leader
Tim GREIMEL (D-Auburn Hills) and Reps. Theresa ABED (D-Grand Ledge), Ray
FRANZ (R-Onekama), Tom HOOKER (R-Byron Center), Ken KURTZ (R-Coldwater),
Collene LAMONTE (D-Montague), Dan LAUWERS (R-Brockway Twp.) Matt LORI
(R-Constantine), Peter MacGREGOR (R-Rockford), Amanda PRICE (R-Holland),
Bill ROGERS (R-Brighton), Alberta TINSLEY-TALABI (D-Detroit), Roger VICTORY
(R-Hudsonville) and Dale ZORN (R-Ida).

Lori, a former sheriff, said his law enforcement background led to his "no"
vote on the bill. The entire medical marijuana system, Lori said, needs
work.

"Those who have a legitimate need I certainly have a great amount of
compassion for them," Lori said.

The National Patients Rights Association (NPRA) touted the House bills in a
press release earlier this week.

"We are very pleased to see widespread bi-partisan support for increased
patient safety coming from our leaders in the House of Representatives," the
organization said in a statement. "It is clear that our state
representatives have a genuine concern for the health and safety of medical
marijuana patients and we applaud their work to protect them."

As for HB 5104, the group said the bill would "protect patients who use
non-smoking forms of medical marijuana while setting reasonable regulations
for labeling and distribution."

Kowall added in a press release, "We have worked diligently to address the
concerns of both patients and law enforcement, and this bill strikes a
balance between them.

"Medical marijuana patients deserve clear laws, and House Bill 5104 gives
patients safe access to the effective, alternative delivery methods they
need while equipping law enforcement with specific guidelines to determine
the law is being carried out."
 

RenMasters

Member
Michigan House approves return of medical marijuana dispensaries, edibles

By Jonathan Oosting | [email protected]
<http://connect.mlive.com/user/joosting/posts.html>

on December 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

LANSING, MI -- The Michigan House on Thursday approved legislation to update
the state's voter-approved medical marijuana law by allowing for
dispensaries and a variety of edible products.

Medical marijuana storefronts had operated in several Michigan communities
until a February ruling by the state Supreme Court that empowered county
prosecutors to shut them down as a "public nuisance."

Bipartisan legislation introduced by Republican Rep. Mike Callton of
Nashville and approved Thursday in a 95-14 vote, would pave the way for the
return of dispensaries -- or "provisioning centers" -- but allow local
communities to prohibit them if desired.

Dispensaries would have to provide municipalities with test results ensuring
that the medical marijuana they sell is free of contaminants. Edible
products would have to be clearly labelled. House Bill 4271
<http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2013-HB-4271> also would prohibit
on-premises cultivation or use of the drug and generally prohibit new
dispensaries from opening within 1,000 feet of a school.

Callton fine-tuned the bipartisan bill with input from municipalities and
law enforcement officials. Those groups still have some concerns about
definitions but no longer oppose the legislation, which Callton has
championed as a way to improve patient access and care.

"If you get your recommendation from a doctor, instead of waiting four to
six months for someone to grow plants for you -- and you may be dead by then
-- you'll be able to go right away to a provisioning center and get the
medicine you need," Callton told MLive on Tuesday.

Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, who joined the lawsuit to shut down
medical marijuana dispensaries and has celebrated their closure, remains
concerned about any legislation that would allow similar facilities to
re-open.

"As the state's top law enforcement officer, Attorney General Schuette
opposes any effort to legalize drugs," said spokesperson Joy Yearout.
"Communities across Michigan have already struggled with dispensaries
selling drugs near schools and churches. Marijuana remains a Schedule 1
drug, and expanding sales will undermine public safety and endanger our
children."

Yearout called the 1,000-foot radius around schools a "cold comfort" that
does not assuage the attorney general's fears.

House Bill 5104, sponsored by Republican Rep. Eileen Kowall of White Lake
and approved Thursday in a 100-9 vote, would update the medical marijuana
law to clarify that multiple parts of the plant -- including dried leaves,
resin and extracts -- can be eaten or otherwise used as medicine.

The Michigan Court of appeals ruled in July that "pot brownies" are not a
usable form of marijuana under the medical law. The plaintiff is appealing,
but the decision has clouded the legal status of various "medibles," which
many patients prefer as a healthier alternative to smoking.

Kowall, speaking on the House floor before the vote, said her bill will give
patients the ability to "choose the delivery method that works best for
their afflictions," referencing vaporization, tinctures, topical creams and
edibles. "It also provides much needed legal clarity that patients need and
deserve."

The dispensary and edibles bills, approved on the last session day of the
year, now head to the Senate. Under the Legislature's five-day rule, they
cannot be taken up until 2014.

The House also approved a separate proposal to create a
"pharmaceutical-grade cannabis" registry if the federal government ever
reclassifies marijuana as a Schedule II drug fit for medical use.

Senate Bill 660 <http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2013-SB-0660> could
eventually allow the state to license large-scale growers to produce
marijuana for sale in pharmacies. Creation of the registry would be
dependent on federal approval, and the system would not replace the current
patient-caregiver model.

Patients who wanted access to the pharmaceutical registry would have to give
up their medical marijuana cards, however, meaning they could no longer grow
their own plants.

Sponsoring Sen. Roger Kahn, R-Saginaw Township, is a medical doctor who has
stressed the importance of offering patients carefully grown and
consistently dosed marijuana.

Former state House Speaker Chuck Perricone, who worked on the legislation
with Kahn, now works for Prairie Plant Systems. The bio-pharmaceutical
company is a medical marijuana provider in Canada and would like to grow the
plant in a former copper mine in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

A House amendment adopted Thursday would allow minors to access the
pharmaceutical registry upon recommendation of two physicians. Because of
that change, the bill returns to the Senate for additional consideration and
possible concurrence.
 

MFB

Active Member
I looked on the LARA site, there is nothing about this other than a notice of hearing.

This is all very confusing. Maybe it is my low intelligence?

How much cannabis are we allowed to carry now?
We are allowed to still grow plants right? And we need to give up our plant rights to buy from dispensaries?
And the cannabis is tested for contaminates now? Most dispensaries around here already did this..
 
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