The left, the true idiots of America where wrong is right and right is wrong...

kpmarine

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Now wait, I believe CBS is on the "don't quote" list, as anything they "report" must certainly be suspect, that is unless what they report supports a conservative talking point.
I can never keep up around here. Will some Fox count then? :p

"The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/religion-offers-break-airport-screening-tsa-says/

Oh shit, jackpot! It's like they addressed this exact bullshit line we currently are.

Myth: Pat downs for certain individuals are limited to the head and neck.
Fact: No one is exempt. Everyone is subject to the same screening. TSA is sensitive to religious and cultural needs, but everyone must be screened effectively. Administrator Pistole echoed those sentiments on MSNBC’s Hardball recently.

^From the TSA's own blog. http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/tsa-myth-or-fact-leaked-images.html
 

canndo

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I can never keep up around here. Will some Fox count then? :p

"The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/religion-offers-break-airport-screening-tsa-says/

Oh shit, jackpot! It's like they addressed this exact bullshit line we currently are.

Myth: Pat downs for certain individuals are limited to the head and neck.
Fact: No one is exempt. Everyone is subject to the same screening. TSA is sensitive to religious and cultural needs, but everyone must be screened effectively. Administrator Pistole echoed those sentiments on MSNBC’s Hardball recently.

^From the TSA's own blog. http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/tsa-myth-or-fact-leaked-images.html


THERE yah go! FOX happens to be on the always approved list.
 

UncleBuck

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now i'm pissed. i forgot to take my knife off my keychain last time i flew and TSA made me mail it back to myself at a cost of about $20 if i wanted to keep it (it was my deceased grandpa's boyscout knife, so of course i did).

but here they say it's OK:

 

jahbrudda

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No... I have denied that there WERE contradictions, which is exactly what was requested. I go point by point, how bout you doing the same? Oh, and if we ARE to move goal posts, then we can go back to the meaninglessness of the entire post, as it has so little to do with conscience understanding of the issues at hand in this country. It is just one more attempt at making complex issues simplistic to the point of being childish - but, as so often happens, these tiny bits are served up as presentations of the behavior of liberals while in the minds of some, exaulting that same.... simplicity as sage commentary.
Here, I'll give you a little help.

let's take #1 on the list, "If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally ...
Then you might live in a country run by idiots.

Is it or is not, a federal law that all foreigners must enter the US by legal means?
If it was left up to democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported, yes or no?

So, if federal law states that all foreigners must be legal to remain inside our boarders, and democrat politicians, local, state and federal, do not enforce this law across the board, they are in contradiction of the law. How can you refute this?
 

peacepipe17

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I tell you what. The american government and its leaders are only concerned with their image nowadays and trying to keep everyone happy. They need to put their foot down and get back to the basics. The stuff that made this country so great at one point n time
 

UncleBuck

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If it was left up to democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported, yes or no?
obama's deported a record number of illegals.

i just showed you a news story about illegals being deported from san francisco.

i'm not quite sure how you go about pretending these facts don't exist.
 

kpmarine

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now i'm pissed. i forgot to take my knife off my keychain last time i flew and TSA made me mail it back to myself at a cost of about $20 if i wanted to keep it (it was my deceased grandpa's boyscout knife, so of course i did).

but here they say it's OK:

Is that one of the new changes? I heard they relaxed carry-on knife rules.
 

kelly4

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When I flew from Denver to Minneapolis, I was able to keep my belt and shoes on. When flying back, they made me remove both. I asked them why there was a difference in the two airports, I was called a liar.

My wife instantly made me shut up. Darn, I was feeling fiesty, too.
 

canndo

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Here, I'll give you a little help.

let's take #1 on the list, "If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally ...
Then you might live in a country run by idiots.

Is it or is not, a federal law that all foreigners must enter the US by legal means?
If it was left up to democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported, yes or no?

So, if federal law states that all foreigners must be legal to remain inside our boarders, and democrat politicians, local, state and federal, do not enforce this law across the board, they are in contradiction of the law. How can you refute this?

Being that under this president - you know, the Dem one, there have been more arrests, detainments and deportation of "illegals" than under Bush.

"But some immigration-reform advocates said it is disappointing that authorities are arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating more undocumented residents who used to be processed in civil immigration courts or allowed to return to their native countries voluntarily. Advocates said federal authorities are wasting resources and taxpayer dollars by focusing on nonviolent, low-wage people who moved to this country in search of better job opportunities. It cost about $1.5 billion annually to incarcerate criminal aliens in federal prisons and reimburse state and local jails between fiscal years 2005 to 2009, according to estimates by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
In Ohio, about 136 people were arrested and booked on immigration violations by federal authorities in fiscal year 2010, according to the most recent Bureau of Justice Statistics data. It was an increase of 77 percent from 77 arrests in 2009.
Illegal immigration was the fastest growing federal arrest offense across the country between 2005 and 2009, rising at a rate of about 23 percent each year, according to the bureau. Other federal arrest offenses include illegal weapons, drugs, violent and property crimes, which all declined in Ohio in 2010.
About 84,750 suspects across the country were arrested and booked for immigration offenses by federal law enforcement agents in 2009, up from 38,040 in 2005. "


So exactly what are you trying to say here? It is a federal law, yes. But what about this "if it were up to Democrats" part? It IS up to Democrats and they happen to be doing the opposite of what you claim. No contradiction.

If we want to examine contradictions we should add up all costs of rounding up all illegals, and the cost of their silence in law enforcement of other kinds, and then subtract the social costs of their presence. If Conservatives want them all out, and it costs more money to get them out than it does to keep them, then Conservatives are being contradictory. Oh, except that they have this ... thing. It says that so long as the government spends money on their agenda, then the debt doesn't really matter.

Course I could be wrong, it might just save us money, but it would cost us many billions to begin - and that would contradict another of Mr. Long's platitudes about spending money resulting only in a larger debt.
 

canndo

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When I flew from Denver to Minneapolis, I was able to keep my belt and shoes on. When flying back, they made me remove both. I asked them why there was a difference in the two airports, I was called a liar.

My wife instantly made me shut up. Darn, I was feeling fiesty, too.

I must have asked in a nicer way.... "but we didn't have to put the little vials of liquid in a bag in Denver" - "well, sir, each airport has different rules". Be very very nice to those people and they will usually leave you alone.
 

kelly4

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I must have asked in a nicer way.... "but we didn't have to put the little vials of liquid in a bag in Denver" - "well, sir, each airport has different rules". Be very very nice to those people and they will usually leave you alone.
I miss the Army guys just standing there holding their guns.
 

jahbrudda

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If it was left up to democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported, yes or no?
obama's deported a record number of illegals.

i just showed you a news story about illegals being deported from san francisco.

i'm not quite sure how you go about pretending these facts don't exist.
Was that a yes, a no, or a, I failed to read the question.
You are just struggling at this, aren't you.
 

canndo

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I miss the Army guys just standing there holding their guns.

Yeah, reminded me of the Walk through Mexican border - except usually the firearms were almost bigger than the Federales. Last time I put a SINGLE tissue in my right pocket so I could blow my damn nose. I went through and the guy said "take out what you have in your right pocket". I pulled out the tissue and said "a tissue, your kidding"

"I NEVER KID", he said. What I thought was cool though is that one airport (I flew around alot) had most of the women working there in black head coverings, I figured they were all muslims, i don't know.
 

canndo

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Was that a yes, a no, or a, I failed to read the question.
You are just struggling at this, aren't you.

The question is misleading. "If it was left up to Democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported". People caught entering this country illegaly ARE arrested and deported. I other words, no one sort of looks the other way if a passport isn't presented.

Those who HAVE entered the country illegaly may or may not be. So what is your question?
 

jahbrudda

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gosh, you sure do make this easy.

if san francisco doesn't deport illegal immigrants, then why were protesters blocking a bus that was deporting illegal immigrants?

wanna take another shot, dummy?
The self proclaimed monsignor of RIU is flailing hopelessly to make the JV team.

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What is the Sanctuary Ordinance?

In 1989, San Francisco passed the "City and County of Refuge" Ordinance (also known as the Sanctuary Ordinance) which prohibits City employees from helping Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with immigration investigations or arrests unless such help is required by federal or state law or a warrant.
 

jahbrudda

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The question is misleading. "If it was left up to Democrats, would people entering the US illegally be arrested and deported". People caught entering this country illegaly ARE arrested and deported. I other words, no one sort of looks the other way if a passport isn't presented.

Those who HAVE entered the country illegaly may or may not be. So what is your question?
I beg your pardon, your answer is very misleading.
It's no secret that democrats are for total amnesty, to say otherwise is either ignorance or a lie.
 

kelly4

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Yeah, reminded me of the Walk through Mexican border - except usually the firearms were almost bigger than the Federales. Last time I put a SINGLE tissue in my right pocket so I could blow my damn nose. I went through and the guy said "take out what you have in your right pocket". I pulled out the tissue and said "a tissue, your kidding"

"I NEVER KID", he said. What I thought was cool though is that one airport (I flew around alot) had most of the women working there in black head coverings, I figured they were all muslims, i don't know.
The Minneapolis airport used to have a lot of Muslims doing security, due to having the nations highest population of Somalis. I'm not sure of the number of them now, due to the lack of flying out of there.
 
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