The Lost Art of Foliar Feeding

shotnva777

shotnva777

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Bunch of monkeys squawking at each other.... "Do this, no that, YOU SUCK, fuck u .... Blah blah blah!"

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BUdbuddysmile

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Uncle Ben said:
We can both cherry pick to suit our agenda. Guess you could take it up with the good doctor. Give her a call. I'm gonna call her about her reluctance to use phosphates.

For starts, if a plant was meant to be fertilized via its leaves, God would have put some form of the essential elements in an airborne form, on a continous basis. If sugar was so wonderful, it would be sold as fertilizer....and the band plays on. The only airborne elements a plant might receive in the form of nitrates is via rain. Plants have developed their plant parts which serves specific functions over millions of years, root uptake of elements is the way it's done.

You can do all the book reading you want and with each ditty, you'll find caveats. I just haven't found it very effective nor do I believe it's required for good cannabis growth, witness my avatar which not only never received foliar applications (because they were not required) but grew from a seedling to full term exclusively under HPS lighting. It's just another forum ditty to push your plants and like all the other cannabis drills can have bad results.

You can get a quick greenup with products like Ferromec AC which contain a low biuret form of N and iron, but again I don't see much value unless there's a problem at the root zone, i.e. chlorosis caused by calcareous soils.

Foliar feeding is a short term fix or tool, it is not a miracle.

UB
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Agreed, I foliar feed after transplant or if the plant looks stressed/ hungry, but is it's not necessarily time to give it a full root drench. In my experience it will help bounce a plant back or hold it over until a full feed. You will notice a lush green in hours and perky leaves But, it seems to be short term. In my experience it clearly has an affect on the plant and has been helpful. You don't want to over do it, its easy to burn your leaves and it leaves a film if your not coming back through with pHed water to "wash" the leaf. If your feeding properly you shouldn't have to foliar feed, problem solved.
 
eDude

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Well.. I try to look at it from natures point of view.. In the 'wild' the nutes are in the ground. You might get some N from rain but very little. Billions of years of evolution with the roots getting the food and the leaves transpiring and gathering light.

But, now you're telling me that mother nature is stupid and has it all wrong.. The leaves are do everything??

Any of you stop to think about where the nutes that run off the plant go? Hmmm? Gravity.. down to the what? Roots.. Are you sure it's not the run off that's helping your plants?
 
budman111

budman111

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eDude said:
Well.. I try to look at it from natures point of view..
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Well you are not looking near hard enough, they get dripping from bigger plants above insects/birds shit on the leaves, insects carries other goodies, splashes from other sources e.g. plant material/extract ...need i go on?
 
eDude

eDude

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:lol: Come on, that doesn't pass the laugh test. If it's on the leaf of the tree above it and it's soo good then why didn't the tree absorb it? If it's being washed off the leaf then why is it sticking to the plant below? Wouldn't it wash off that too.. into the SOIL. You guys are weird with your (what about this) stuff.
 
budman111

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It gets worse, roadside plants/weeds absorb some of the carbon minoxide from car exhauste fumes but you just keep your head in the sand....
 
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jesburger

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Just got a General Organics box... but I won't use most of the things because I'm running DWC. But I figure some of them could make a good spray.
I also got some stuff around here, what should I use in my spray?

Spray'n'Grow
GoBox: DiamondBlack, BioWeed, BioMarine, BioRoot, BioWorm, BioBud,
Grotek VitamaxPlus,
Superthrive,
H&G Dripclean, H&G MultiZen (Multizyme)


I also have some BioGlue as a surfactant
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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jesburger said:
Just got a General Organics box... but I won't use most of the things because I'm running DWC. But I figure some of them could make a good spray.
I also got some stuff around here, what should I use in my spray?

Spray'n'Grow
GoBox: DiamondBlack, BioWeed, BioMarine, BioRoot, BioWorm, BioBud,
Grotek VitamaxPlus,
Superthrive,
H&G Dripclean, H&G MultiZen (Multizyme)


I also have some BioGlue as a surfactant
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Looks like you bought plenty of crap products to insure your failure.
 
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jesburger

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I got everything for free in that list. But thanks for your comment, it really helps me a ton. Is there a button to remove reputation?
 
plark

plark

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I make RO water for my fish tanks, then wait a couple weeks, come back take old water and replace with new.... take that water and use it as a SPRAY and I will say my plants LOOK AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! the fish waste in the water works so good.

I should add... I have FRESH WATER TANKS
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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jesburger said:
I got everything for free in that list. But thanks for your comment, it really helps me a ton. Is there a button to remove reputation?
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I'm trying to save you some future heartaches. Spend some time with a wise doctor of horticulture - http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda Chalker-Scott/Horticultural Myths_files/index.html

Do you even know what's in those products and what effect they will have? Let's start with Spray-n-Grow. The guaranteed analysis reflects the highest mineral content is sodium. Good luck with that. You're falling for the pervasive organic marketing racket. If it has the buzzwords 'bio', 'natural' or 'organic' it must be great, eh?

Bioglue is a surgical adhesive.
 
Nitegazer

Nitegazer

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UB,I really like your growing approach. It's no BS, cut through the marketing and keep it simple-- all leading to great results. My grows are better for what I have learned from you.

What I don't appreciate is the way you hijack threads that don't precisely match your growing regimen. After reading through this thread, you come off as more of a bully than anything else.

Foliar feeding has enough apparent benefit, backed by scientific research and practice, that it is worth allowing a thread about it to continue without turning it into literary jujitsu. For the sake of civilized discourse LET IT GO. You have your own threads to promote your fine growing techniques.
 
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jesburger

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Bioglue is the name of a local product that is a surfactant, much like wet betty or any other.

Anyway, does anyone have any recommendations for how to mix and match the products I do already have to make a good spray?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Nitegazer said:
UB,I really like your growing approach. It's no BS, cut through the marketing and keep it simple-- all leading to great results. My grows are better for what I have learned from you.

What I don't appreciate is the way you hijack threads that don't precisely match your growing regimen. After reading through this thread, you come off as more of a bully than anything else.

Foliar feeding has enough apparent benefit, backed by scientific research and practice, that it is worth allowing a thread about it to continue without turning it into literary jujitsu. For the sake of civilized discourse LET IT GO. You have your own threads to promote your fine growing techniques.
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These laundry lists look more like a multiple choice test rather than solid information.
 
eDude

eDude

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jesburger said:
Just got a General Organics box... but I won't use most of the things because I'm running DWC. But I figure some of them could make a good spray.
I also got some stuff around here, what should I use in my spray?

Spray'n'Grow
GoBox: DiamondBlack, BioWeed, BioMarine, BioRoot, BioWorm, BioBud,
Grotek VitamaxPlus,
Superthrive,
H&G Dripclean, H&G MultiZen (Multizyme)


I also have some BioGlue as a surfactant
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Spray with the Bioweed. It's an awesome seaweed extract. Whatever you do DO NOT SPRAY THE BIOMARINE..!!!! lol that's Fish emulsion.. The black you might try lightly in your dwc but not as a spray.. That's a liquid humic. Drip clean is for dripper systems. The MZ is cool for dwc but again not for a spray.

Not into spray'n'grow so much. Over all the only thing I'd spray with is the bioweed.
 
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jesburger

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eDude said:
Spray with the Bioweed. It's an awesome seaweed extract. Whatever you do DO NOT SPRAY THE BIOMARINE..!!!! lol that's Fish emulsion.. The black you might try lightly in your dwc but not as a spray.. That's a liquid humic. Drip clean is for dripper systems. The MZ is cool for dwc but again not for a spray.

Not into spray'n'grow so much. Over all the only thing I'd spray with is the bioweed.
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+rep

thanks for answering!
 
ngrace

ngrace

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Im using THC bloom at 1.7 oz/50 mls per 3 gallons/10 litres, reccomended full strenth is 1.2oz/35ml, I have in perlite with exposed roots in a water resovior at the bottom with oxygen stone, shes drinking a gallon a day, I am also saturating leaves 3 times a day with same water and nutes, no sign of nute burn and bright green healthy leaves and growth, lower fan leaves about to drop off......... its 2.5 feet, nearly one month into flowering, good buds forming, it had been growing at 5 inches a week for the past 2 weeks but last week it only grew 2 Inches,,,,,,, not sure if anyone sees current problems or future ones, Sativa plant
 
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