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The Main-Lining Thread

nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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The Winter Line-Up is Settled....:leaf:

TGA

Timewreck
Chernobyl
Space Jill
Harliquin X
Pandora's Box
Qleaner
The Void
Oregon Blues
Space Dawg

Crosses

Queen of Hearts (Vortex X Ace of Spades)
Jillybean x Oregon Blues
Tahoe White (Tahoe OG x Alien OG x The White)

Other Breeders

Sour Kush (DNA)
Sour AK-47 (G-13 Labs)
 
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frankfast

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awsome line-up nugs i to am running the DNA sour kush just topped it for the first time yesterday, and will be popping some AOS in 2 weeks
 
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SHvisitor

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Beautifull line up sir, i'm just mad none of my strains are in it hehe. Still i'll follow the journey with great pleasure!

If i may ask, i had a question about sexing, let's assume that i'm not as abble to detect sign of sexing from my plants as you are, how long would you keep the flower under a 12/12 schedule without loosing the hand on the "reverting" part?

I'm asking because i had to flower a mom that i thought i'd be able to revert back and it scares me a little to try the technique.
I know that rewards comes with risk - reason why i'll start mainlinning on those first TGA beans - but understand my feeling , i'm convinced of the advantages of early sexing - saves soil/smartpot/better space mgmt - but i've never worked with regular seeds before - you can start booing nerds - and i would hate to mess up those precious.

Lastly can i ask you - in all honesty - how messed up were your first tries when you started implementing mainlining?
I'm facing the same dilema with main lining than with that earlier techniques, the rewards are huge, but the risks seem pretty big or unreasonably small. I've got a bit of knowledge when it comes to l.s.t but this seems like an other level, how important would you say the perfect symetry between each heads is?
Would you advise me to implement the technique on all my babies a sa first timer (Kaboom and A-13)?

I'm sorry for the lenghty question but i'm convinced many other will find those info usefull , once again my growing conditions dont allow me to obtain such result as yours but i'm following your step bit by bit starting with TGA beans.
 
ThegrowerMOJO

ThegrowerMOJO

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That Tahoe White sounds like something i would like,My mainline girl is getting close around 10 more days but I learned a valuable lesson when mainlining watch your nitrogen uptake .I am pretty sure i used my soil up by the time I flipped the switch(I don't use S.S.)but my own blend which is close without the blood and bone meal.And yeah i know this is why i ran into nitro def. :wall: but it attracts bugs bad where i live.
 
ThegrowerMOJO

ThegrowerMOJO

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SHvisitor said:
Beautifull line up sir, i'm just mad none of my strains are in it hehe. Still i'll follow the journey with great pleasure!

If i may ask, i had a question about sexing, let's assume that i'm not as abble to detect sign of sexing from my plants as you are, how long would you keep the flower under a 12/12 schedule without loosing the hand on the "reverting" part?

I'm asking because i had to flower a mom that i thought i'd be able to revert back and it scares me a little to try the technique.
I know that rewards comes with risk - reason why i'll start mainlinning on those first TGA beans - but understand my feeling , i'm convinced of the advantages of early sexing - saves soil/smartpot/better space mgmt - but i've never worked with regular seeds before - you can start booing nerds - and i would hate to mess up those precious.

Lastly can i ask you - in all honesty - how messed up were your first tries when you started implementing mainlining?
I'm facing the same dilema with main lining than with that earlier techniques, the rewards are huge, but the risks seem pretty big or unreasonably small. I've got a bit of knowledge when it comes to l.s.t but this seems like an other level, how important would you say the perfect symetry between each heads is?
Would you advise me to implement the technique on all my babies a sa first timer (Kaboom and A-13)?

I'm sorry for the lenghty question but i'm convinced many other will find those info usefull , once again my growing conditions dont allow me to obtain such result as yours but i'm following your step bit by bit starting with TGA beans.
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There is another way of of going about this.(currently showing a friend this) You take a cutting from the plant you want to find sex and then place it into a 12/12 light cycle this will tell you what the mother plant was no need to grow it bud then reveg hope this helps ya out some.
 
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SHvisitor

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I had thought about that option as well, the only drawback with that technique is that it hold's your plant in a lesser pot while the clone is rooting + 1/3 weeks of flowering -as opposed to knowing straight away who's who and repotting the ladies right after in smart pot - an other drawback would be the "work" involved in cloning etc but i'll make space and time if i need to hehe

Thanks for the help , appreciate it!
 
nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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not really sure what all the fuss is about early sexing....its just a matter of putting her under 12/12 long enough to throw a single pre-flower....there is really no concern over her going into full-on flower, and having to "revert" her....also, her "flowering" parts are pruned off with the first prune anyways.....really not a big deal at all guys.
 
nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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SHvisitor said:
Beautifull line up sir, i'm just mad none of my strains are in it hehe. Still i'll follow the journey with great pleasure!

If i may ask, i had a question about sexing, let's assume that i'm not as abble to detect sign of sexing from my plants as you are, how long would you keep the flower under a 12/12 schedule without loosing the hand on the "reverting" part?

I'm asking because i had to flower a mom that i thought i'd be able to revert back and it scares me a little to try the technique.
I know that rewards comes with risk - reason why i'll start mainlinning on those first TGA beans - but understand my feeling , i'm convinced of the advantages of early sexing - saves soil/smartpot/better space mgmt - but i've never worked with regular seeds before - you can start booing nerds - and i would hate to mess up those precious.

Lastly can i ask you - in all honesty - how messed up were your first tries when you started implementing mainlining?
I'm facing the same dilema with main lining than with that earlier techniques, the rewards are huge, but the risks seem pretty big or unreasonably small. I've got a bit of knowledge when it comes to l.s.t but this seems like an other level, how important would you say the perfect symetry between each heads is?
Would you advise me to implement the technique on all my babies a sa first timer (Kaboom and A-13)?

I'm sorry for the lenghty question but i'm convinced many other will find those info usefull , once again my growing conditions dont allow me to obtain such result as yours but i'm following your step bit by bit starting with TGA beans.
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i also don't look at ML'ing as being risky at all...it is simply pruning and bonding in the right places.......as a grower, one should learn to become proficient in all pruning, bonding, and canopy management techniques....ML'ing is just a simple method.
 
budman678

budman678

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Nugs, I'm pumped on your winter grow. I'm glad you ended up with a fem Tahoe White. I cant wait to see what you do with it! Of course, all the other bitches don't look bad either. Give em hell!!!
 
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SHvisitor

Active Member
nugbuckets said:
i also don't look at ML'ing as being risky at all...it is simply pruning and bonding in the right places.......as a grower, one should learn to become proficient in all pruning, bonding, and canopy management techniques....ML'ing is just a simple method.
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Thanks for the answer sir,

A simple method yes but it seems to me like canopy mgmt - simmetry especially - is a much bigger factor then in a regular topped/fimmed plant. I've been experimenting with different type of LST and scrog, also like lollypoping so i'm always down to try new techniques, as i said with risk comes rewards and i was blown away when i first tried lollypoping.
My dilema comes from the fact that i can only run two session a year, i've never tried mainlinning before -as i said though i'm looking forward to get better at it - i was wondering whether main-linning is different enough from other LST for me to be worry about my harvest.

In short: i know i can handle a reg topping+ scrog but i want to get better at main linning, should i put all my eggs in the same basket as a first timer when how much i harvest is a consideration?

Thanks a lot sir.
 
mantiszn

mantiszn

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Cloning for sex

How soon can I force-flower my clones after cutting?
By Ed Rosenthal - Tuesday, September 23 2003
FOLLOW: ASK ED GROW TIPS
I have cloned my plants to determine sex. Do I need to wait until the clones have roots before forcing them to flower? How many hours of light should I give them daily to get the earliest flowering?
Cbucki,

You can force the cuttings to flower as soon as you cut them. These are throw-away clones since they will have already started flowering at only a few inches in height. However, they will start rooting as they turn from vegetative to flowering. If you give them 10 hours of light and 14 hours of uninterrupted darkness, the clones will indicate faster than if given the standard 12-12 light/darkness schedule. Depending on variety and conditions, cuttings will reveal their gender in seven days to two weeks on a 12-12 cycle. On a 10-14 cycle, the time will be reduced by a few days and you'll also save on electricity.

ThegrowerMOJO said:
There is another way of of going about this.(currently showing a friend this) You take a cutting from the plant you want to find sex and then place it into a 12/12 light cycle this will tell you what the mother plant was no need to grow it bud then reveg hope this helps ya out some.
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nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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...i am sure force sexing a cutting has an application somewhere, but seems like two totally different ways to approach it.....with early sexing (the key word being "early")......a young seedling can be sexed , pruned, re-potted, and placed in her veg space within 30 days from sprout......in most cases and strains, cuttings will not even be mature enough to take off a young plant at this juncture, dig?....i don't want males, and their clones kicking around wasting time, space, and resources.......in 5-7 days, i can have all my unwanted males trashed, and be tending to my all girl army.....instead of wasting time taking cuts off of possible males!?....no method is right for everyone, but i love early sexing, and do not ever see me doing it any other way, simply because it is the fastest, most efficient method i have ever come across, and it fits the Main-Lining protocol perfectly.
 
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HotCheetos

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Has anybody ever tried mainlining with some dwarf plants? I speak specifically to sub 30 inch strains like Flash Auto, Gnomo, Lowryder stuff, D.J. Short stuff, Russian Rocket Fuel and others from D.J. Short Stuff, etc?

Keep it super, super manageable in a stealth grow and still get over an ounce per plant would be the goal. Some say the autos and dwarfs should be germinated and then grown in the same pot or container and fed nothing for the first 2 weeks or so or very very light feeding and that shock is the enemy and stress training is the enemy. Others scrog, defoliate, deliberately induce transplant shock, etc. Just wondering if anybody thought to main-line for a super small truly bonsai crop. That would be the idea, anyhow.
 
ThatGuy113

ThatGuy113

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HotCheetos said:
Has anybody ever tried mainlining with some dwarf plants? I speak specifically to sub 30 inch strains like Flash Auto, Gnomo, Lowryder stuff, D.J. Short stuff, Russian Rocket Fuel and others from D.J. Short Stuff, etc?

Keep it super, super manageable in a stealth grow and still get over an ounce per plant would be the goal. Some say the autos and dwarfs should be germinated and then grown in the same pot or container and fed nothing for the first 2 weeks or so or very very light feeding and that shock is the enemy and stress training is the enemy. Others scrog, defoliate, deliberately induce transplant shock, etc. Just wondering if anybody thought to main-line for a super small truly bonsai crop. That would be the idea, anyhow.
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I did it with a auto didn't document it too much but ended up stretching way to much and not much decent bud very larfy. I ended up using all of it to make water hash.
 
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HotCheetos

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So you have to use a medium strain and not one of the dwarf ones? What sort of marijuana strain is best for this? Just looking to start my first grow and this mainlining stuff looks great for keeping it small and getting a good yield.
 
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