The Main-Lining Thread

FredFlintstoner0420

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Oh dude, you got room. Wait the week, veg a bit more, take your clones from your lower growth and prep for 8 colas since you have the time and room!

Good luck and I look forward to your results!

That beast in the white container to the right reminds me of my healthiest plant in this grow, I'd give her a chance too along with the one with the level colas.
 

Skillzd

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Yeah the one on the left is an Afghani Regular so I don't really want to do a bunch with it and it be a Male. The one in the white bucket in middle is a BlueDreamXSour Deisel but was a bag seed He said it was like one seed in a few ounces so he said it should be Feminized then but possible Hermie so I will watch. But that again is the one with trifoliate features in the one side. Which is another reason she looks so good. You realize I have trimmed that thing a ton already. Lol. And it still just gets thick of green again. Prob end up being a male too. Lol. My luck. But all the rest are feminized and clones And all WWxBB The smaller one with 4 level colas was from seed as were the other two. I have some clones from my large flowering plants. I took just as they flowered at the top I cut some off bottom that weren't quite flowering yet and they turned out the best. The nodes are growing so close to each other it's amazing and they really are taking off. This is first year I've cloned. I've been doing it since last Sep I think now and it was roughy til I switched to Coco and now it's easy. But still want a second way just for tops yet. I'll get it No time right now. Got my mushroom spores coming Friday and got to get that started and going ASAP I'm glad everything's going good so far. Thanks for helping too
 

Skillzd

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Well the biggest thing I find in these forums is discouragement. So when someone pays it forward I try to make sure they get credit for encouraging others. Wether they are new or experienced. It shouldn't be a competition like many make it into. So my Veg. room Aleta fly was ALL 2500k CFLs with a Bright blue white LED along with a full spectrum LED Anyways. I didn't even realize that they were 2500k. I thought I had a few 6000k in there But j guess those were the ones that broke. Anyways. I found some 6000k self ballasted bulbs last night and threw them in. Last night they all grew a good bit cus of the change. SO ANYONE THAT ASKS "can I use 2500k to veg?" Yes you can. But your talking way more Veg time if you do. Which is probaly the reason why I'm behind schedule. I was asking myself why it looked so full of a light. No wonder. I should have looked again weeks ago and is probaly have one or two over in 12-12. I can't really be as organized as if like with the cabinet falling apart. It sucks k have to be careful and worry about it when I'm doing things. So I fight important things easier. Time to start looking for parts to rebuild it I guess
 

Skillzd

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image.jpeg I'm sorry. I guess I shouldn't have said the BIGGEST. BUT I SEE IT TOO MUCH we should all have fun and encourage each other. So I thank you for that and love chatting as you can see so anyone that like to just chat with another grower. You can PM. That way we can chat and then maybe make a group to all chat together eventually. I want a nice group of growers to chat with. A group I know I can ask the stupidest question when I can think straight and not get judged or told I'm a noob cus k asked a stupid question. Ya no. Anyways. Have a good day everyone. Here's some pics and I'll upload some later to

These are the two nice clones. My third Nice one is in Hydro and growing extremely well and almost ready to top.
The full image it the one that I asked on the site about getting them to grow more evenly cus one was growing way faster. You can still see a little bit after some training extra early. They are even almost now. And the other two pics are the same plant. And I love how the nodes are coming out. But I'm waiting to top for Manifold on her.
 

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bict

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I'm considering main lining my outdoor plants before they go outside. Would it be realistic to be able to main line 21 plants under a 220w 4 tube T5, vegging for 2 months? Not worried about space or anything, just not sure if they'll get to the stage I want them before putting out in the Australian sunshine.
 

Skillzd

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Umm. I'm assuming you mean VEG under the 220w t5 light. Yeah that shouldn't be an issue other than maybe slower veg time. Which is kind of what I deal with too. But I like a little slowed Veg SOMETIMES cus it helps me train them for Manifolding. I do not use the term Main Line. Cus it's also affiliated for hard core drugs and I think it should be kept seperate from cannabis. Many feel the Same. So I refer to is as Manifolding because even tho they are different. I look at it as Mainline is still a form of a Manifold design It's just different structures and I think they should say Nebula Manifold or Mainifolding Nebula style. Lol. Just an example btw. Sorry for getting off subject
You may have a slower Veg time and so you may need those full 2momths to Veg. Which is lengthy but I have had to before Not cause of Manifolding persay always but there's been circumstances where it's taken that long. It depends on how big you want it. Remember usually they will double once they stretch in flower. Now I have noticed that the bigger the plant is in Veg. It sometimes won't stretch Double in flower.

I have this issue now that I want to research more I have two ladies now that I let go too long because I focused on the wrong plant and just had to wait. They got to 2ft tall and when I Flowered they didn't really stretch much They have but over time. They didn't have much of a initial flowering stretch They are in week 6 now and still a bit Airy. I took some test buds off last night cus I needed some medicine. Rainy day I woke up hurting bad and only a tiny bit of medicine so I cut some and started drying it so it would be drying all day. Was still a little airy and tasted shitty but a nice feeling did last long tho. This morning it was a great morning buzz tho. Made me feel better for about 30min. Then I started feeling like crap again cus the damn meds i have to take
Anyways. The airy buds may have been fro
Vegging too long and didn't develop properly. Or it may have been cus my CFL/led lights weren't bright enough the first two weeks of flower and then third week two got broke and a few days later I got a 600w HPS and threw on them and doing wonderful since But I'm wondering if they will dense up better in the last few weeks. They are 1-1.5ft away from light but seems the buds are still getting taller. Not getting up. Any ideas on what I can do. Or am I forgetting to do something here. Got COCO Nutes and maxBloom. And they love them at little higher strength. When I stop Nutes. Will they stop growing and fatten up maybe. Never had this issue at 6weeks. When I grew before j was lucky enough to really not to have any issues
 

Growdict

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i dont know from experience, but i believe going from cfl/led in week 3 to HPS will cause a significant stretch. i dont think there is anything you can do about it now, you will probably have a mixture of airy and dense buds at harvest and you may go longer than normal for your strain. i would just ride it out and harvest when the plant is ready.
 
I have just topped my Sour OG for 8 colas and I have 8 colas coming in but I have new grow tips coming out of the old nodes as the plants grows. I'm I supposed to keep cutting the grow tips that keeps growing and keep the main 8 colas? I Have a manifold and the amount of colas I want I'm just not sure if I'm supposed to keep cutting them or not. I'm growing outdoors.
 

Growdict

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i am not sure on that one either. I did a pretty big clean up at day 18 of flower, chopping all bud sites that were branching off the mains more than 2 inches, it looked pretty bare after that, so i just thought i would let it run from then on, no more trimming.
 
one of my 8 colas broke a little and I notice a tear drop came off the part where it broke off. It s not broken all the way I would say half do you think it will recover?
 

Skillzd

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i dont know from experience, but i believe going from cfl/led in week 3 to HPS will cause a significant stretch. i dont think there is anything you can do about it now, you will probably have a mixture of airy and dense buds at harvest and you may go longer than normal for your strain. i would just ride it out and harvest when the plant is ready.
They didn't stretch at all really. The only issue is density The Cola buds aren't too bad. They are a bit airy and not as dense as I want them. But as you go down they start to get worse and worse of course. I'm honestly thinking its cus I left them Veg too long without topping or anything. I couldn't because I had mixed an auto in with them by accident. I should have said screw the auto and top them. My next ones going into flower are looking good so far tho. I think it was a combo of letting them Veg so long and not having enough light the first few weeks. Cus it wasn't enough for as big as these were. I had my one main LED panel I think it was 40w and it was full spectrum and and then a Bright white 14w LED strip they use for running lights on cars. Very bright light. And I'm not for sure how many n watts but I think it was With 3 42watt 2500k. 4 23w 2500k and 3 13w for side supplemental lighting. I'd have to check again. They were doing good but my LED burnt up. A 42wat got bumped and started leaking and stopped. Then I broke another 23w. So i had to do something quick and got 600w HPS setup for it and of course they love it. I defoliated three times also cus it seems to be helping and they are loving it too.
 

Skillzd

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I have just topped my Sour OG for 8 colas and I have 8 colas coming in but I have new grow tips coming out of the old nodes as the plants grows. I'm I supposed to keep cutting the grow tips that keeps growing and keep the main 8 colas? I Have a manifold and the amount of colas I want I'm just not sure if I'm supposed to keep cutting them or not. I'm growing outdoors.
Need a picture of what exactly you mean first. Send me a pic and I'll let you know what to do with them for sure. Each plant is different and I don't agree with doing the same exact thing with every plant
 

Skillzd

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Oh. And as for the harvest when plant is ready. I was thinking the same thing. They are white widow crossed with big bud. So I am letting them go the full 9weeks. Maybe 10. But the issue with that is if you let them go longer There's no Nutes the last few weeks so I think j may stop Nutes at week 7-8 and then go to 10weeks. I just didn't want the Couch lock feeling. Right now it's early and the morning buzz was so helpful and made me wake up and ready to go at first. But my health doesn't allow me get releif for very long at a time
 

Skillzd

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Sorry I'm posting a lot. Lol. Quick question cus I can't remember and never really kept track before until I started back up with growing this past year. The number of days in flower. You mentioned 18days of Flower. Is day ONE the day you switch to 12-12. Or is it the day you see Sex pistils pop out? I've been doing it since the day she shows sex and flowers. But I've read a few posts that suggest people are counting from the day they switch over to 12/12. I always get it confused and I also never really counted down much before when j grew.
 

Growdict

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one of my 8 colas broke a little and I notice a tear drop came off the part where it broke off. It s not broken all the way I would say half do you think it will recover?
for breaks in the stem, you will notice very quickly whether it will heal. tape it, tie it secure and wait. if it is going to die off it will do so within 24 hours, if not it will heal, leave tape in place for 7 days and it should be healed.
 

Growdict

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i always count from flip, because it is way easier to track and do your planning. at this point i defoliate one week before flip and 2.5 weeks after.
 
One of the leafs is droopy and is looks like it's dying but the other is hanging on and it doesn't seem as dry as its opposite. I taped it and I read about putting plastic wrap to creat moisture.
 

Skillzd

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Ok. I can't really tell in those pics the location of the growth tips. Or how tall your cola shoots are yet. But for example. When you plant is ready to switch to flower. The bottom idk. Say 6" should be no growth tips. That's if your plants are about a foot tall. Minimum I'd say you atleast need your top 3-4 nodes when switching over. But it all depends on the strain and the plant too. I'm only familiar with the white widow X big buds growth rate I have grown a few others but not as familiar I would always suggest trimming the bottom growth up unles you are starting Flower early in to keep plants small. Then maybe no. But that's so the buds start from the bottom and form a huge bud the whole way up. If you do that on a taller plant. It won't be solid bud. It's going to be a bunch of smaller buds along the sides the whole way up. That's why you trim the bottom growth so that the top can bulk up more and get bigger and all those bud sites form into one long Cola Bud. The concept is supposed to be. If you let the lower growth bud. They will be popcorn buds. Yes more buds. BUT they also take nutrients and if they were cut off those nutrients would be delivered to the rest of the buds up top so in turn will make them a bit bigger or more dense so what you lose jn popcorn buds you will gain in weight from the Colas. Hope that helps. I'm a bit talkative today. Stress is a killer
 
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