Resinhound
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Wish I could outdoors....sigh,id get some of each of mitch's gear
The Mephisto genetics thread
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thetr33man
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Throw the rest in the freezer and get some mephistos would be my recommendation...
jmcdaniel0
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I was thinking that same thing. Any good potent and higher yielding strains?
hondagrower420
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jmcdaniel0
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OK so they are all good lol. Guess I'm going to get a variety to try out.
jmcdaniel0
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Just picked up enough to run a full tent. I'll let you all know as things progress. I think this might be journal worthy.
Lurrabq
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I'm doing some in last years Happy Frog, and they look real good at 7 weeks. One light feed up to this point. Stems are as big as my little finger. They are from an SODK mother open pollinated by a sativa dominant poly hybrid male. Been working this poly strain for 8 summers, and finally got it used to the heat.
thetr33man
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Some info on upcoming new releases:
Skywalker – (Skywalker Kush DNA – Mephisto Selection x Triangle Kush Automatic)
Project introduction -
The Skywalker auto project was something which in a sense we stumbled into, growing from feminised seeds, as breeders, is a practise we tend to shy away from, unless they have been produced by us. Of course, we know they can be produced in a decent, stable way, as we do and there can most definitely be fire lurking within. It's just wherever possible we like to have the option to see the boys too and get our teeth stuck into the genetics.
So just prior to our first outdoor season after moving countries, 4 years ago now, having little to no stability we were faced with a situation of needing to go balls to the wall and fully exploit what could possibly have been our only chance at a true summer outdoor in a good climate.
I guess you could say it was our own take on freedom 35, (anyone not familiar with freedom 35, open another tab and google it please.)
We raided our extensive seed collection, years and years in the making, Yes, we're hoarders and seed addicts too, in which, amongst others, we had 5x 6 fem seed packs of Dna Genetics Reserva Privada range 'Skywalker Kush'. We also started in excess of 50 other strains at that point in time for general and outdoor evaluation.
Skip forward past the summer season which we survived, some varities stood tall and stood the test, others fell, but out of it we'd found an absolute gem of a skywalker kush mother. We hit upon an indica dominant phenotype, not too stretchy, responded well to high stress training, thick stout branches were difficult to tie down, not typical of the others we played with, but untypical is what we're all about. She was early into flower outside, bushy as you like, and inside one of the highest quality all-round photoperiods we've grown.
In total we ran her outdoors for 2 seasons, and succesively inside, denoted by an INTENSE OG aroma, sedative, mindmelding, facemelting effect, good yield for an OG derivative, hard flowers and very manageable growth pattern for an OGK, it was a no-brainer to set about making an autoflowering version.
Skywalker kush cut outdoors
In 2014 the f1 cross was made using pollen from our Auto Triangle Kush F4. We felt the lineage's involved and similarities therein would be highly complimentary and the aim was to further intensify the already high quality of our triangle kush with a strain we just couldn't put down. And well worthy for the inception of the Mephisto Artisanal Automatics line.
The Skywalker Kush was memorable to all of our friends we shared the flowers with, we still get asked about it now, frequently. '....is..., is...is there any Skywalker?'
Only after these few years of work can we finally answer, yes she's back, in AUTO form.
F1
The selections for the F2 cross were made in late 2014, cropped in early 2015, We grew 30 or so of the F1's out indoors, this was narrowed down to 9 females, from these just one was pollinated.
When the on-set of flowering begins in the skywalker the leaves coming out of each budset appear slightly crinkled to the eye, along with distinctive aroma, and several sessions of rubbing stems, one lady was selected to carry the F2 seeds.
When harvest time came, I took a seeded top cola to Tim, I made him close his eyes, not touch, and slowly placed it under his nostrils, and said 'give me one word', His answer: 'Skywalker!'
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Also I neglected to mention, the Bubblehash processed from our skywalker cut was absolutely sublime, and hands down the oiliest product we have ever ran. So so melty.
The F2 seeds were ran in spring 2015, 70+ were started, which gave us 10 auto skywalker females to work with, two were pollinated, a stockier hench cola'd lady, squat with thick indica/afghan leaves, and a more open elongated skywalker, with slender buds but oozing resin and terps.
F2
This more slender girl was the candidate who's seeds were chosen to run at f3. The seeded candidates were finished inside whilst the rejects were placed in a greenhouse to finish up the remainder of their days.
The F3 seeds were ran in autumn 2015, 70+ were started, 20 females made the grade to run to completion, the finest 3 were selected for pollination to bring the F4 feminised Artisanal seeds to market.
F3
Nugshot
Plant characteristics:
Our auto skywalker is mid-sized, good vigour and growing without too much foliage, by employing an easy strategy of leaf tucking, you can encourage her to shoot branches up with little to zero interference to overall growth. Her open structure allows good penetration and therefore increased yields and minimal pop-corn. Internodal length is moderate and she's very manageable.
In the flowering stage she has a very distinctive appearance, Fine leaves eminate from the flowers in an almost spikey fashion and have a tendency to curl upwards, the buds whilst not outrightly singularly large, have incredible density which later become like mini rocks that hit your tray as you trim them. The flowers are very white in apperance. They are spread evenly and give a nice flower/plant size ratio.
Odour control is an absolute must whilst growing this variety and if you travel with the finished product, a minimum of double bagging is recommended.
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 65-70 days
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil: 50-90 grams
Size: 60-90cm in height
Structure: Medium Branchy
Aroma: Pungeant with a Capital P OG, earthy, piney, dash of lemon
Taste: Mouth coating Blend of Earthy, Pungeant and Sweet rolled into one.
Medicinal Benefits: Great for anxiety and pain relief, promotes well being.
Effect; Strong, Couchlocking, straight to the legs and straight to the head, and will take you to your own world of planet skywalker.
Flower Density: 9.5/10
Best Suited for Growing: Indoor/Greenhouse/Outdoors
Skywalker – (Skywalker Kush DNA – Mephisto Selection x Triangle Kush Automatic)
Project introduction -
The Skywalker auto project was something which in a sense we stumbled into, growing from feminised seeds, as breeders, is a practise we tend to shy away from, unless they have been produced by us. Of course, we know they can be produced in a decent, stable way, as we do and there can most definitely be fire lurking within. It's just wherever possible we like to have the option to see the boys too and get our teeth stuck into the genetics.
So just prior to our first outdoor season after moving countries, 4 years ago now, having little to no stability we were faced with a situation of needing to go balls to the wall and fully exploit what could possibly have been our only chance at a true summer outdoor in a good climate.
I guess you could say it was our own take on freedom 35, (anyone not familiar with freedom 35, open another tab and google it please.)
We raided our extensive seed collection, years and years in the making, Yes, we're hoarders and seed addicts too, in which, amongst others, we had 5x 6 fem seed packs of Dna Genetics Reserva Privada range 'Skywalker Kush'. We also started in excess of 50 other strains at that point in time for general and outdoor evaluation.
Skip forward past the summer season which we survived, some varities stood tall and stood the test, others fell, but out of it we'd found an absolute gem of a skywalker kush mother. We hit upon an indica dominant phenotype, not too stretchy, responded well to high stress training, thick stout branches were difficult to tie down, not typical of the others we played with, but untypical is what we're all about. She was early into flower outside, bushy as you like, and inside one of the highest quality all-round photoperiods we've grown.
In total we ran her outdoors for 2 seasons, and succesively inside, denoted by an INTENSE OG aroma, sedative, mindmelding, facemelting effect, good yield for an OG derivative, hard flowers and very manageable growth pattern for an OGK, it was a no-brainer to set about making an autoflowering version.
Skywalker kush cut outdoors
In 2014 the f1 cross was made using pollen from our Auto Triangle Kush F4. We felt the lineage's involved and similarities therein would be highly complimentary and the aim was to further intensify the already high quality of our triangle kush with a strain we just couldn't put down. And well worthy for the inception of the Mephisto Artisanal Automatics line.
The Skywalker Kush was memorable to all of our friends we shared the flowers with, we still get asked about it now, frequently. '....is..., is...is there any Skywalker?'
Only after these few years of work can we finally answer, yes she's back, in AUTO form.
F1
The selections for the F2 cross were made in late 2014, cropped in early 2015, We grew 30 or so of the F1's out indoors, this was narrowed down to 9 females, from these just one was pollinated.
When the on-set of flowering begins in the skywalker the leaves coming out of each budset appear slightly crinkled to the eye, along with distinctive aroma, and several sessions of rubbing stems, one lady was selected to carry the F2 seeds.
When harvest time came, I took a seeded top cola to Tim, I made him close his eyes, not touch, and slowly placed it under his nostrils, and said 'give me one word', His answer: 'Skywalker!'
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Also I neglected to mention, the Bubblehash processed from our skywalker cut was absolutely sublime, and hands down the oiliest product we have ever ran. So so melty.
The F2 seeds were ran in spring 2015, 70+ were started, which gave us 10 auto skywalker females to work with, two were pollinated, a stockier hench cola'd lady, squat with thick indica/afghan leaves, and a more open elongated skywalker, with slender buds but oozing resin and terps.
F2
This more slender girl was the candidate who's seeds were chosen to run at f3. The seeded candidates were finished inside whilst the rejects were placed in a greenhouse to finish up the remainder of their days.
The F3 seeds were ran in autumn 2015, 70+ were started, 20 females made the grade to run to completion, the finest 3 were selected for pollination to bring the F4 feminised Artisanal seeds to market.
F3
Nugshot
Plant characteristics:
Our auto skywalker is mid-sized, good vigour and growing without too much foliage, by employing an easy strategy of leaf tucking, you can encourage her to shoot branches up with little to zero interference to overall growth. Her open structure allows good penetration and therefore increased yields and minimal pop-corn. Internodal length is moderate and she's very manageable.
In the flowering stage she has a very distinctive appearance, Fine leaves eminate from the flowers in an almost spikey fashion and have a tendency to curl upwards, the buds whilst not outrightly singularly large, have incredible density which later become like mini rocks that hit your tray as you trim them. The flowers are very white in apperance. They are spread evenly and give a nice flower/plant size ratio.
Odour control is an absolute must whilst growing this variety and if you travel with the finished product, a minimum of double bagging is recommended.
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 65-70 days
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil: 50-90 grams
Size: 60-90cm in height
Structure: Medium Branchy
Aroma: Pungeant with a Capital P OG, earthy, piney, dash of lemon
Taste: Mouth coating Blend of Earthy, Pungeant and Sweet rolled into one.
Medicinal Benefits: Great for anxiety and pain relief, promotes well being.
Effect; Strong, Couchlocking, straight to the legs and straight to the head, and will take you to your own world of planet skywalker.
Flower Density: 9.5/10
Best Suited for Growing: Indoor/Greenhouse/Outdoors
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thetr33man
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Not sure what happened to the pictures, they showed fine when I pasted into the box, but when I posted it, they were all removed! Bummer....
thetr33man
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Grape Crinkle F4 – (Canadian Crinkle Cut x Supernatural (exotic genetix)) x Ripley's OG Automatic
Project introduction -
Our Grape Crinkle Project has been one of, if not, the most involved projects we've tackled.
The pure Canadian Crinkle was passed to us in cutting form as a medicinal quality, early finishing outdoor strain with good mould resistance. Little known to us prior to that, after doing some digging it's said to originate from Ontario, a clone only variety rumoured to be a hash plant hybrid. I also read it was hoarded by biker gangs, it's speed and quality beneficial to commercial applications.
We ran it outside during our first season, and true to form, it was done by the 15th September at 40 degrees latitude, The crinkle produced truly round golf ball nuggets that completely iced over with sugars. We had also seen similarly impressive results from our amigos growing this cut up in England, which has to have some of the wettest, typically miserable summers around, and in the high humidity Mephisto woods, often jungle-esque during summer nights, we can testify to how well it performed.
It grew very indica like with approximately 75% stretch throughout flower, the dried flowers are very powerful in effect, arse kicking, combined with the mould resistance it made an ideal candidate to turn auto. The only areas we felt it could be improved upon, were to add some taste and flavour and a little more stretch to her. This came in the form of a feminised F1 cross we made using Supernatural (grapegod x the flav) from exotic genetix. The split in phenotypes with these were pretty straight-forward but we prefered and opted to reverse a sativa dominant super grapey lady.
The F1 feminised photoperiod of Canadian Crinkle x Supernatural, which we quickly coined as 'Grape Crinkle' , We flowered out 30+ of these in order to find our special grape crinkle lady, which was all we had previously desired, a little more size, beautiful colours and creamy grapey aromas, the buds were totally crinkle dominant, just on a larger more vigorous frame.
Here she is around 4 weeks into flower
And here are a few shots of the end product
Here's the F1 of our Grape Crinkle selection x Ripley's OG auto
At F2 the plants were very uniform, whilst being automatic, they were branchy, crystalised and retained the typical grapey goodness and smell we'd got a real nose for. It was a 2 plant selection, very similar in characteristics so we ran a mix of the F3 seeds in order to be able to get a range of different expressions to sift through and work with at f3
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
Grape Crinkle is simply a trichome factory, she basically begins to put out frost on her fans from the time she shows sex, and just doesn't let up after that.
She was first created with the idea to make a mould resistant outdoor variety but over the generations she's become an extract artists wet dream, the hashplant heritage has made itself known in abundance. With grapey, flavourful terps to match, she's a champion in our hearts and under our lights.
She grows with an open structure, spaced out nodes, but not too stretchy that floppiness or support is a concern, she makes clusters at each one. The flowers have a very unique structure, that ooze resin. Branches and flower sites generally protrude out from the main stem, but with one main cluster on the end, She can also form a very bulbous main top.
To process, especially for live resin extration, it's simply a case of removing only the very biggest fan leaves only.
Grape Crinkle is a variety that really excites all the senses. Whilst touching her live flowers or busting up her dried ones, you are hit by an intence, almost artificial level of grapey-fruit aroma.
Grape crinkle can purple and colour up easily with cooler temperatures, and fan larger fan leaves multi-colour and make a lovely show for the eyes.
She is also the fastest of this first release of artisanal projects, in the correct environment and grow style she can be commercially ready from less than 60 days from sprout. However for personal conoisseur smoke and average conditions the 65-70 day window is ideal.
Grape Crinkle is not a mass yielder individually but is very capable of yielding well in an Autoflower Sea-of-green grow style.
If a quick easy grow of high quality terp-soaked flowers is your aim, you couldn't go far wrong with this strain.
F3 - midflower
F3 - Late flower
F3 - Dried nugs
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 55-65 days from sprout
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil: 40-75 grams
Size: 50-70cm in height
Aroma: Creamy fruit yoghurt, to Artificial concentrated grape flavouring
Taste: Fruity supremely paletable, hints of flowers, mulled wine and christmas spices.
Medicinal Benefits: Powerful Pain and stress reliever
Effect; Medicinal, smooth and balanced to sooth both body and mind.
Flower Density: 7.0 / 10
Best Suited For Growing: Indoor
Project introduction -
Our Grape Crinkle Project has been one of, if not, the most involved projects we've tackled.
The pure Canadian Crinkle was passed to us in cutting form as a medicinal quality, early finishing outdoor strain with good mould resistance. Little known to us prior to that, after doing some digging it's said to originate from Ontario, a clone only variety rumoured to be a hash plant hybrid. I also read it was hoarded by biker gangs, it's speed and quality beneficial to commercial applications.
We ran it outside during our first season, and true to form, it was done by the 15th September at 40 degrees latitude, The crinkle produced truly round golf ball nuggets that completely iced over with sugars. We had also seen similarly impressive results from our amigos growing this cut up in England, which has to have some of the wettest, typically miserable summers around, and in the high humidity Mephisto woods, often jungle-esque during summer nights, we can testify to how well it performed.
It grew very indica like with approximately 75% stretch throughout flower, the dried flowers are very powerful in effect, arse kicking, combined with the mould resistance it made an ideal candidate to turn auto. The only areas we felt it could be improved upon, were to add some taste and flavour and a little more stretch to her. This came in the form of a feminised F1 cross we made using Supernatural (grapegod x the flav) from exotic genetix. The split in phenotypes with these were pretty straight-forward but we prefered and opted to reverse a sativa dominant super grapey lady.
The F1 feminised photoperiod of Canadian Crinkle x Supernatural, which we quickly coined as 'Grape Crinkle' , We flowered out 30+ of these in order to find our special grape crinkle lady, which was all we had previously desired, a little more size, beautiful colours and creamy grapey aromas, the buds were totally crinkle dominant, just on a larger more vigorous frame.
Here she is around 4 weeks into flower
And here are a few shots of the end product
Here's the F1 of our Grape Crinkle selection x Ripley's OG auto
At F2 the plants were very uniform, whilst being automatic, they were branchy, crystalised and retained the typical grapey goodness and smell we'd got a real nose for. It was a 2 plant selection, very similar in characteristics so we ran a mix of the F3 seeds in order to be able to get a range of different expressions to sift through and work with at f3
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
Grape Crinkle is simply a trichome factory, she basically begins to put out frost on her fans from the time she shows sex, and just doesn't let up after that.
She was first created with the idea to make a mould resistant outdoor variety but over the generations she's become an extract artists wet dream, the hashplant heritage has made itself known in abundance. With grapey, flavourful terps to match, she's a champion in our hearts and under our lights.
She grows with an open structure, spaced out nodes, but not too stretchy that floppiness or support is a concern, she makes clusters at each one. The flowers have a very unique structure, that ooze resin. Branches and flower sites generally protrude out from the main stem, but with one main cluster on the end, She can also form a very bulbous main top.
To process, especially for live resin extration, it's simply a case of removing only the very biggest fan leaves only.
Grape Crinkle is a variety that really excites all the senses. Whilst touching her live flowers or busting up her dried ones, you are hit by an intence, almost artificial level of grapey-fruit aroma.
Grape crinkle can purple and colour up easily with cooler temperatures, and fan larger fan leaves multi-colour and make a lovely show for the eyes.
She is also the fastest of this first release of artisanal projects, in the correct environment and grow style she can be commercially ready from less than 60 days from sprout. However for personal conoisseur smoke and average conditions the 65-70 day window is ideal.
Grape Crinkle is not a mass yielder individually but is very capable of yielding well in an Autoflower Sea-of-green grow style.
If a quick easy grow of high quality terp-soaked flowers is your aim, you couldn't go far wrong with this strain.
F3 - midflower
F3 - Late flower
F3 - Dried nugs
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 55-65 days from sprout
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil: 40-75 grams
Size: 50-70cm in height
Aroma: Creamy fruit yoghurt, to Artificial concentrated grape flavouring
Taste: Fruity supremely paletable, hints of flowers, mulled wine and christmas spices.
Medicinal Benefits: Powerful Pain and stress reliever
Effect; Medicinal, smooth and balanced to sooth both body and mind.
Flower Density: 7.0 / 10
Best Suited For Growing: Indoor
thetr33man
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Sour Stomper F4 – (Grape Stomper OG (GageGreenGroup) x Sour Crack Automatic
Project introduction -
Sour Stomper is the first mephisto variety whereby someone else had a hand in the project, and we we've been delighted with the results at every stage since. So first and foremost we have to give credit to GBD @autoflower network for having the foresight, skill and taste in quality genetics to get this project underway, He made the F1 cross using a Sour Crack female and Grape Stomper OG male, so here's a word from the man himself:
'Sour Stomper began with a trip to Denver, Colorado to celebrate the legalization of recreational cannabis use on January 1, 2014.
After spending two weeks sampling almost one hundred strains there was a clear standout. Grape Stomper.
The grape flavors she emits are other-worldly, almost too good to be true!
I had been disappointed by grape strains in the past, but after two tokes of her greasy grapey sweet mouth coating smoke accompanied by an instantaneous rush of full body relief I knew she was something special.
This began the quest to find Grape Stomper genetics and introduce them into the already unbelievably good autoflower genetics created by Mitch and Tim.
The search was damn near impossible, taking correspondence relay races, waiting lists, and some asking extra nicely to finally acquire the beans.
If anyone goes on a successful quest for them today my hat is definitely off to you!
Once in hand they were immediately germinated, vegged, cloned and flowered.
All of the females were absolute crystal queens, but they all left something to be desired in the way of grapey goodness, however one of the males was a different story.
The scent from his tacky stems transported me right back to the flavors of the original Grape Stomper with a little something extra, slightly offensive in the mix.
He was selected to pollinate a super sweet Sour Crack that had strong grape undertones and was caked in resin.
From there the offspring were handed off to Mitch and Tim to work their magic on, and to translate the best qualities of Grape Stomper into autoflower format.
After seeing the Sour Stomper F3 grown out first hand in Spain last year I can safely say the quest was a complete success.'
On receiving the F1 seeds from Gbd, we set about our usual process for F1 runs, starting 30-40 plants, narrowing down to a selection of 9 females, During the F1's we witnessed some of the most complete, thickest trichome coverage we've had the pleasure of seeing, out of anything, automatic or photoperiod..ever.
We selected two pollination candidates, a thick sour crack dominant lady, big thick fingered leaves, fantastic resin, with an added injection of a sweet grape scent. The second, a grape stomper og dominant lady with nice branching and more elongated colas. She had thinner leaflets, a positively intoxicating smell and again covered in whiteness.
The F1 grow was in winter 2014 and the plants quickly turned a deep exotic velvet purple to black with the cooler temperatures.
Generally we like to steer away from the plants at F1 that favour the auto parentage, but with this variety and the other artisanals so far, the already high quality building blocks used to donate the auto trait is making this decision trickier, but we opted to go with the grape stomper leaning parent.
Actually in hindsight I don't think we could have gone far wrong with any of the selections from this cross at F1.
The foliage of these F1 females were so triched out, it almost felt like sacralige to trim them.
Here's a flower ready to go:
At F2, we witnessed a more compact version of the F1's, but a larger version of the Sour crack, one of our strains we've grown and played with relentlessly over the years.
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
It's getting harder to rate the frostiness of these new projects, but Sour Stomper is definitely very high up there and can only be described by a potentially invented word 'frostiliscious'
Sour Stomper has actually been the hardest strain to photograph and showcase as it's covering of whiteness against it's purple hues is difficult to capture and definitely best seen first hand.
From early to mid-flower a sweet red grape smell is evident, this develops throughout flowering becoming more intense and complex with a more raw meatier edge coming through as the flowers build.
The flower to plant ratio is extremely high, meaning although the outright size of the plants aren't large, this is a small-medium sized variety, the yield is impressive.
There isn't a big swing in the phenotypes Sour Stomper puts out, we found two thirds will display colouration under cooler temps, but the flower structures and aromas are very similar throughout.
She is a delight to trim and manicure, and is an ideal candidate for extraction work.
Performs very well in an autoflower sea-of-green configuration.
We pollinated just two candidates to make sour stomper f4's, one we've labelled simply as 'the delicious pheno' the other is branded 'whiter than white'.
Late flower images -
Sample nug - currently being tested
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 60-65 days
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil - 60-80 grams
Size: 50-70cm in height
Aroma: Delicious sweet red grape infused with a raw funky to meaty edge. Powerful.
Taste: Grapey with piney-lemony undertones,
Medicinal Benefits: Anti-depressant qualities
Effect; Glorious, hitting all the pleasure zones, euphoric and feel good vibes. Brings a sunny shine to a cloudy day
Flower Density: 7.0/10
Best Suited For Growing: Indoor/Greenhouse/Outdoor
Project introduction -
Sour Stomper is the first mephisto variety whereby someone else had a hand in the project, and we we've been delighted with the results at every stage since. So first and foremost we have to give credit to GBD @autoflower network for having the foresight, skill and taste in quality genetics to get this project underway, He made the F1 cross using a Sour Crack female and Grape Stomper OG male, so here's a word from the man himself:
'Sour Stomper began with a trip to Denver, Colorado to celebrate the legalization of recreational cannabis use on January 1, 2014.
After spending two weeks sampling almost one hundred strains there was a clear standout. Grape Stomper.
The grape flavors she emits are other-worldly, almost too good to be true!
I had been disappointed by grape strains in the past, but after two tokes of her greasy grapey sweet mouth coating smoke accompanied by an instantaneous rush of full body relief I knew she was something special.
This began the quest to find Grape Stomper genetics and introduce them into the already unbelievably good autoflower genetics created by Mitch and Tim.
The search was damn near impossible, taking correspondence relay races, waiting lists, and some asking extra nicely to finally acquire the beans.
If anyone goes on a successful quest for them today my hat is definitely off to you!
Once in hand they were immediately germinated, vegged, cloned and flowered.
All of the females were absolute crystal queens, but they all left something to be desired in the way of grapey goodness, however one of the males was a different story.
The scent from his tacky stems transported me right back to the flavors of the original Grape Stomper with a little something extra, slightly offensive in the mix.
He was selected to pollinate a super sweet Sour Crack that had strong grape undertones and was caked in resin.
From there the offspring were handed off to Mitch and Tim to work their magic on, and to translate the best qualities of Grape Stomper into autoflower format.
After seeing the Sour Stomper F3 grown out first hand in Spain last year I can safely say the quest was a complete success.'
On receiving the F1 seeds from Gbd, we set about our usual process for F1 runs, starting 30-40 plants, narrowing down to a selection of 9 females, During the F1's we witnessed some of the most complete, thickest trichome coverage we've had the pleasure of seeing, out of anything, automatic or photoperiod..ever.
We selected two pollination candidates, a thick sour crack dominant lady, big thick fingered leaves, fantastic resin, with an added injection of a sweet grape scent. The second, a grape stomper og dominant lady with nice branching and more elongated colas. She had thinner leaflets, a positively intoxicating smell and again covered in whiteness.
The F1 grow was in winter 2014 and the plants quickly turned a deep exotic velvet purple to black with the cooler temperatures.
Generally we like to steer away from the plants at F1 that favour the auto parentage, but with this variety and the other artisanals so far, the already high quality building blocks used to donate the auto trait is making this decision trickier, but we opted to go with the grape stomper leaning parent.
Actually in hindsight I don't think we could have gone far wrong with any of the selections from this cross at F1.
The foliage of these F1 females were so triched out, it almost felt like sacralige to trim them.
Here's a flower ready to go:
At F2, we witnessed a more compact version of the F1's, but a larger version of the Sour crack, one of our strains we've grown and played with relentlessly over the years.
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
It's getting harder to rate the frostiness of these new projects, but Sour Stomper is definitely very high up there and can only be described by a potentially invented word 'frostiliscious'
Sour Stomper has actually been the hardest strain to photograph and showcase as it's covering of whiteness against it's purple hues is difficult to capture and definitely best seen first hand.
From early to mid-flower a sweet red grape smell is evident, this develops throughout flowering becoming more intense and complex with a more raw meatier edge coming through as the flowers build.
The flower to plant ratio is extremely high, meaning although the outright size of the plants aren't large, this is a small-medium sized variety, the yield is impressive.
There isn't a big swing in the phenotypes Sour Stomper puts out, we found two thirds will display colouration under cooler temps, but the flower structures and aromas are very similar throughout.
She is a delight to trim and manicure, and is an ideal candidate for extraction work.
Performs very well in an autoflower sea-of-green configuration.
We pollinated just two candidates to make sour stomper f4's, one we've labelled simply as 'the delicious pheno' the other is branded 'whiter than white'.
Late flower images -
Sample nug - currently being tested
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 60-65 days
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil - 60-80 grams
Size: 50-70cm in height
Aroma: Delicious sweet red grape infused with a raw funky to meaty edge. Powerful.
Taste: Grapey with piney-lemony undertones,
Medicinal Benefits: Anti-depressant qualities
Effect; Glorious, hitting all the pleasure zones, euphoric and feel good vibes. Brings a sunny shine to a cloudy day
Flower Density: 7.0/10
Best Suited For Growing: Indoor/Greenhouse/Outdoor
thetr33man
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3 Bears OG F4 – (Karma's OG cut a.k.a Bear OG (Karma Genetics) x Triangle Kush Automatic
Project introduction -
3 Bears OG is a project which is part of our quest to create the most true, purest OG available in automatic form.
In 2013 whilst we were still setting up our farm, we were blessed with a visit from Karma, who being the experienced guru of growing and fine genetics, as well as being a stand-up guy, resulted in us being passed some of his personal selections to tinker with, along with a heap of good advice.
One of which included the then labelled Karma's OG, now named Bear OG.
We know Karma put his heart and soul into the creation of his Bear OG, so we wanted to do it true justice in auto form and mirror that with our own work.
Bear OG was very impressive as an OG, she wasn't too finicky, or viney, she was adaptable, and very easy to grow, a single topping created a very even canopy of thick juicy nugs.
We trialled her inside and out over several seasons, in non ideal conditions too and her quality always shone through.
She had a great vigour, exploding when put in flower and responded extremely well to training, She vegged beautifully and cloned well. Something that made her a mainstay crop with that headstash quality, so to put it simply she ticked all of our boxes.
Her flowers are hard as boulders and yielding greatly even when mistreated blew us away.
Bear OG photo - Karma's cut
We already have several projects involving various OG kushes, but felt our Triangle was an ideal match and shared a lot of common traits to be paired with the Bear OG.
We grew Bear OG from seed alongside Karma's own selection, which we often do when starting a project to make sure we've really made the best choice and have the best candidates to work with, afterall it would be silly not to, as we know we'll be investing at least a couple of years to bring a project to term. We found some gems in the seeds, but Karma's personal cut took the cake.
The F1 generation when grown out was very uniform, and remarkably similar to the photoperiod bear's we'd grown previously, topping once pre putting them into 12/12 created a lovely even multi-topped bush with all the prized nuggets re-siding in the canopy.
The majority showed nice colouration, and fully frosted nugs.
The photo x auto F1
Late in flower
Dried nug of the F1
The F2 threw out a number of phenotypes, but it was easy to spot the flower formation and aromas we loved so much from the F1's.
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
3 bears OG is without a doubt a cornerstone to our Artisanal collection, Solid auto stock twice outcrossed to OG's of impeccable qualities, we now have true OG quality flowers in automatic format. We've managed to blend the best of the fabelled OG with a compact and controllable growth pattern. A mini-me OG.
It becomes evident from early on that the 3 bears OG just stacks and plumps up flowers like there's no tomorrow, for a compact plant, the yields can be spectacular with no sacrifice in quality or speed.
She's a stocky build and will benefit from a little leaf tucking between days 20-30 to make lovely thick secondary colas. The internodal gaps are just right, and it's possible to easily end up with zero pop-corn on these girls.
Aromas and frost take awhile to really kick in, being subtle at first but once engaged and into gear they take you on a journey to funkytown, mouth watering watermelon with hints of powerful lemon OG funk. Yummy.
She colours up very easily too, from Deep Purple to Black in the foliage and sugar leaves.
Because of the thickness and density of colas it is well worth making sure that airflow is optimised during the last two weeks of the cycle.
3 bears og auto f3 - late flower
Dried nug, currently being tested.
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 60-70 days from sprout
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil - 70-90 grams
Size: 50-80cm in height
Aroma: Watermelons and straight og verging offensive.
Taste: Lemon Sour
Medicinal Benefits: Helps against insomnia, and provides great appetite stimulation.
Effect; Happy, stress reliever.
Flower Density: 8.0/10
Project introduction -
3 Bears OG is a project which is part of our quest to create the most true, purest OG available in automatic form.
In 2013 whilst we were still setting up our farm, we were blessed with a visit from Karma, who being the experienced guru of growing and fine genetics, as well as being a stand-up guy, resulted in us being passed some of his personal selections to tinker with, along with a heap of good advice.
One of which included the then labelled Karma's OG, now named Bear OG.
We know Karma put his heart and soul into the creation of his Bear OG, so we wanted to do it true justice in auto form and mirror that with our own work.
Bear OG was very impressive as an OG, she wasn't too finicky, or viney, she was adaptable, and very easy to grow, a single topping created a very even canopy of thick juicy nugs.
We trialled her inside and out over several seasons, in non ideal conditions too and her quality always shone through.
She had a great vigour, exploding when put in flower and responded extremely well to training, She vegged beautifully and cloned well. Something that made her a mainstay crop with that headstash quality, so to put it simply she ticked all of our boxes.
Her flowers are hard as boulders and yielding greatly even when mistreated blew us away.
Bear OG photo - Karma's cut
We already have several projects involving various OG kushes, but felt our Triangle was an ideal match and shared a lot of common traits to be paired with the Bear OG.
We grew Bear OG from seed alongside Karma's own selection, which we often do when starting a project to make sure we've really made the best choice and have the best candidates to work with, afterall it would be silly not to, as we know we'll be investing at least a couple of years to bring a project to term. We found some gems in the seeds, but Karma's personal cut took the cake.
The F1 generation when grown out was very uniform, and remarkably similar to the photoperiod bear's we'd grown previously, topping once pre putting them into 12/12 created a lovely even multi-topped bush with all the prized nuggets re-siding in the canopy.
The majority showed nice colouration, and fully frosted nugs.
The photo x auto F1
Late in flower
Dried nug of the F1
The F2 threw out a number of phenotypes, but it was easy to spot the flower formation and aromas we loved so much from the F1's.
Plant characteristics @ F3 onwards
3 bears OG is without a doubt a cornerstone to our Artisanal collection, Solid auto stock twice outcrossed to OG's of impeccable qualities, we now have true OG quality flowers in automatic format. We've managed to blend the best of the fabelled OG with a compact and controllable growth pattern. A mini-me OG.
It becomes evident from early on that the 3 bears OG just stacks and plumps up flowers like there's no tomorrow, for a compact plant, the yields can be spectacular with no sacrifice in quality or speed.
She's a stocky build and will benefit from a little leaf tucking between days 20-30 to make lovely thick secondary colas. The internodal gaps are just right, and it's possible to easily end up with zero pop-corn on these girls.
Aromas and frost take awhile to really kick in, being subtle at first but once engaged and into gear they take you on a journey to funkytown, mouth watering watermelon with hints of powerful lemon OG funk. Yummy.
She colours up very easily too, from Deep Purple to Black in the foliage and sugar leaves.
Because of the thickness and density of colas it is well worth making sure that airflow is optimised during the last two weeks of the cycle.
3 bears og auto f3 - late flower
Dried nug, currently being tested.
In house data, information and stats:
Complete cycle time: 60-70 days from sprout
Per plant yield in a 9 plant to 600w HPS arrangement, Potsize:15L, medium: Organic Soil - 70-90 grams
Size: 50-80cm in height
Aroma: Watermelons and straight og verging offensive.
Taste: Lemon Sour
Medicinal Benefits: Helps against insomnia, and provides great appetite stimulation.
Effect; Happy, stress reliever.
Flower Density: 8.0/10
thetr33man
Well-Known Member
The pics are definitely worth checking out, if you do a little searching youll find them. This is why Mephisto is #1, beyond their excellent products, they are very transparent and you know exactly what you are getting....
GuyLeDuche
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Just a heads up, The Vault is doing a new Mephisto comparative grow! Sign up here https://www.rollitup.org/p/12336538/
Resinhound
Well-Known Member
Update on the sour bubbly in 1 gal hempy,yield ~100g dry.Bud all the way to the dirt.
guerrilla medic
Well-Known Member
I'm looking to order this line up asap. Do any of you Mephisto veterans have a coupon code and/or any suggestions about their best genetics?
White 'n' Bubbly
Toofless Alien
Alien Vs. Triangle
Supernatural OG
White 'n' Bubbly
- Pack Size: 18
- Price: €138.00
Toofless Alien
- Pack Size: 18
- Price: €138.00
Alien Vs. Triangle
- Pack Size: 3
- Price: €34.00
Supernatural OG
- Pack Size: 3
- Price: €34.00
jmcdaniel0
Well-Known Member
I picked up a few strains doing the close your eyes and point method lol. I have a full tent right now and my mephisto seeds haven't shown up yet. I'll do a journal on them when it comes time... I have grown a lot of autos and from what I hear mephisto is the best out right now. I hope they are! Lol otherwise I just wasted some money.
guerrilla medic
Well-Known Member
I changed my lineup a little bit but made a large order 3-4 days ago. I contacted Mitch directly and got a great deal.