The Never Ending Abuse of Phosphorous (Bloom foods) to Enhance Flowering

t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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Dear Uncle Ben,
I'm newbie here, this is my first time in growing herbs
I've 2 plants here (Super Lemon Haze & Diesel Ryder) and i switched light to 12/12 6 days ago, and my lower leaves at both plants are turning yellow like you said.
I don't know what should i do now?
I never use nutrients before, just watering by nature water.
Can i use this NPK 10-30-20 now ?

N: 10%
P2O5: 30%
K2O: 20%
Mg: 0,05%
Ca: 0,05%
B: 0,03%
Zn: 0,05%
Cu: 0,05%
Fe: 0,075%
Mn: 0,05%
Mo: 0,005%
GA3, αNAA, bNOA

Sorry, i'm in Vietnam (country with Dalat city if you remember Di Wee Dalat) :-P, so i can't find other brand with 10-30-20, it's hard in my country.
I've some pictures of my plants here, pls give me some advice




 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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For starts, don't us dirt. Start with a good potting soil.

Your plants could use a 30-10-10 with chelated micros now. I see too much leaf yellowing and some leaf chlorosis going on. Stay away from the 10-30-20.

Speaking of DiWeeDalat, he gifted me quite a few Dalat beans and I recently gifted some to a few folks. Check this out - https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-34

How do you know DiWeeDalat? Last time I heard (10 years ago) he had bought some beachfront property in Costa Rica.

Good luck
 
t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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Uncle Ben said:
For starts, don't us dirt. Start with a good potting soil.

Your plants could use a 30-10-10 with chelated micros now. I see too much leaf yellowing and some leaf chlorosis going on. Stay away from the 10-30-20.

Speaking of DiWeeDalat, he gifted me quite a few Dalat beans and I recently gifted some to a few folks. Check this out - https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-34

How do you know DiWeeDalat? Last time I heard (10 years ago) he had bought some beachfront property in Costa Rica.

Good luck
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Of course i want to start with a good potting soil with perfect pH range 6.0 - 6.5, but it's really hard to find in Vietnam. Can i start with Vermicompost ?
And my Diesel Ryder is start flowering now, so i'll use 30-10-10 for both of plants ? When will we use 10-30-20 ?
Sorry, i'm really newbie here :(
About Di Wee Dalat, i don't know him, i just find 'vietnam cannabis' in google and read Di Wee Dalat's story in Vietnam and I was caught in it. I find everything abt Di Wee Dalat, that's why i know about you, he gifted you some seeds. I always wish that I had one of them lol :-P
Sorry for bad English, thanks for your help !
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Vermicompost is excellent. Make up your own soil using something along the lines of 50% inorganic, 50% organic. Blood and bone meal are good sources of a slow release N and P.

Your English is better than most who was raised on it! :)
 
t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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Uncle Ben said:
Vermicompost is excellent. Make up your own soil using something along the lines of 50% inorganic, 50% organic. Blood and bone meal are good sources of a slow release N and P.

Your English is better than most who was raised on it! :)
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Oh, thank you so much, i'll use Vermicompost next time.
Tomorrow i'll buy a 30-10-10 for this time and when will i can use 10-30-20 because i know 30-10-10 is common use in veg time and 10-30-20 for flowering time right ?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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t0ny4n said:
Oh, thank you so much, i'll use Vermicompost next time.
Tomorrow i'll buy a 30-10-10 for this time and when will i can use 10-30-20 because i know 30-10-10 is common use in veg time and 10-30-20 for flowering time right ?
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Not necessarily. You use whatever keeps leaves green and healthy until harvest. I've grown many a plant with a high N food from start to finish.

Don't believe everything you read or hear.
 
t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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Uncle Ben said:
Not necessarily. You use whatever keeps leaves green and healthy until harvest. I've grown many a plant with a high N food from start to finish.

Don't believe everything you read or hear.
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Yep, all i want to see is my babes in full of green :weed:
Thank you so much Uncle Ben :clap:
 
t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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Uncle Ben said:
Not necessarily. You use whatever keeps leaves green and healthy until harvest. I've grown many a plant with a high N food from start to finish.

Don't believe everything you read or hear.
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Dear Uncle Ben,
Now i'm back, i've watered 30-10-10 like u said before for 3 times, the plants is fine, they all green now but the buds is small.
Can i go for 10-30-20 ? Now is 26 days since i switched the light to 12/12 and u can look the buds is small here.

 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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t0ny4n said:
Dear Uncle Ben,
Now i'm back, i've watered 30-10-10 like u said before for 3 times, the plants is fine, they all green now but the buds is small.
Can i go for 10-30-20 ? Now is 26 days since i switched the light to 12/12 and u can look the buds is small here.

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they look great for the lighting you are using, good soil and nutes can only do so much, they are just a small part of the whole equation.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Yep, give it time and understand it's healthy leaves that produce buds, NOT bloom foods. Don't force the plant, let it do it's own thing.

BTW, what variety is that? Sure looks like pure Vietnamese to me. You guys still have landraces? I've recently gifted some friends Dalat. One fella in Santa Cruz has some huge specimens outdoors, probably a month from finishing.

Good luck
 
t0ny4n

t0ny4n

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butterbudface said:
give it time
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chuck estevez said:
they look great for the lighting you are using, good soil and nutes can only do so much, they are just a small part of the whole equation.
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Thank you guys so much !

Uncle Ben said:
Yep, give it time and understand it's healthy leaves that produce buds, NOT bloom foods. Don't force the plant, let it do it's own thing.

BTW, what variety is that? Sure looks like pure Vietnamese to me. You guys still have landraces? I've recently gifted some friends Dalat. One fella in Santa Cruz has some huge specimens outdoors, probably a month from finishing.

Good luck
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Thank you Uncle Ben, i'll wait to see the result.
And i'm growing Super Lemon Haze & Diesel Ryder.
We still have landraces, Vietnam Black & Mekong High. But i'm not sure they are one with seeds u've been gifted from Dalat Di Wee, I don't know what strain it is, but i love to see it.
 
Growerguy420

Growerguy420

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t0ny4n said:
Thank you guys so much !



Thank you Uncle Ben, i'll wait to see the result.
And i'm growing Super Lemon Haze & Diesel Ryder.
We still have landraces, Vietnam Black & Mekong High. But i'm not sure they are one with seeds u've been gifted from Dalat Di Wee, I don't know what strain it is, but i love to see it.
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patience will lead you to the promise land. Maintain current course of action. I run a 20-10-20 straight through the whole plants life and get perfect buds every time.
 
papajohn

papajohn

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ub are there any other brands with a custom blend like the 18-4-9.Harrell's blend a bit hardd to get here and the others at my vendor has mg in it,but i already have dolomite for that.
 
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