Fuckin right, I love this thread also glad to see there is still a little ghetto fever spreading around. +rep to you both on helping me bring this thread back to life. Both axion and concord dawn you both have some beautiful plants and it makes me feel good to know that you didnt have to do everything perfect, use the perfect nutrients, or the perfect light. Growing ghetto is worth it to me because I dont have a lot of space to work with and I love gardening, not just marijuana but all plants. I know that CFLs cant really even be compared to using HID lights, and Miracle grow cant be compared to advanced nutrients or soils, but those cheaper things still can produce good outcomes if done correctly. I myself use fox farms tiger bloom, and I love the results I am getting but for my first two grows I used miracle grow and molasses so my point is I dont care what critics say I do what I love doing.