What bottle? The online calculator was very wrong when calculating in litres. I notified them last monday and it has already been corrected. When using H&G's paper nute guide [in gallons] there is no difference in nute strength compared to the online calculator. Today I mixed full standard strength for wk6 of a 8wk flower cycle and have a ppm of 1250. Still a little strong I think. A reading of 2000ppm indicates a user error.
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sierrajames
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so I wanted to ask, has anyone tried combining Magic Green with a little SNS217 as a surfacent?
indipow82
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Yeah, I stick with the chart. They have their shit down and obviously they know what they are doing and how their products should be used. Not a thing I would do. My crop is to damn important to me to risk fucking it up. IMO To much money, time and effort to ignore the science behind it all that they obviously worked so hard at...
There is another forum that i found out about cutting back on A and use more B. Some people cut A out completely at week 6 and just run B. The reasoning is that part a brings too much nitrogen into flower, causing more leafs. I found running their chart exactly even at the normal dose burned my plants a little
indipow82
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Hmm, I dig what your saying man and totally respect it! I have never had anything like with my garden luckily and have heard of burning happening with H&G. I guess I am just lucky! Been using H&G for over two years now and it does me right everytime following the chart. Ido grow alot of hardy and strong strains constantly so may that has something to do with it. I never heard that nitrogen in the final weeks causes more leaves, def provides more energy to create more buds. Iwould like to see how they cam eto that conclusion or the science behind it even.
Nitrogen (N)
Nitrate - Ammonium is found in both inorganic and organic forms in the plant, and combines with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and sometimes sulfur to form amino acids, amino enzymes, nucleic acids, chlorophyll, alkaloids, and purine bases. Nitrogen rates high as molecular weight proteins in plant tissue.
Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients.
Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
Nitrogen is mainly used for stem and leaf growth i believe. I use my growth nutes through the 1-2 weeks of flower, then i start to taper my N off.
Ive been doing some reading about using more potassium later in flower rather than P. H&G new shooting powder is 9-20 P,K and is supposed to be used in late flowering. I am also using MOAB in week 5 and maybe 6.
I am also running two other brands of nutes, and do the samething, and using MOAB and Krazy Kelp with them. Krazy Kelp is 1-0-17 and plan on using the MOAB during week 5 and maybe 6, then using the Krazy Kelp week 7 and 8 depending on harvest time. KK doesnt have the P that Shooting Powder does, but itll help confirm if higher K later in flower is better than P. Which is what alot of bloom boosters come with.
Nitrate - Ammonium is found in both inorganic and organic forms in the plant, and combines with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and sometimes sulfur to form amino acids, amino enzymes, nucleic acids, chlorophyll, alkaloids, and purine bases. Nitrogen rates high as molecular weight proteins in plant tissue.
Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients.
Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
Nitrogen is mainly used for stem and leaf growth i believe. I use my growth nutes through the 1-2 weeks of flower, then i start to taper my N off.
Ive been doing some reading about using more potassium later in flower rather than P. H&G new shooting powder is 9-20 P,K and is supposed to be used in late flowering. I am also using MOAB in week 5 and maybe 6.
I am also running two other brands of nutes, and do the samething, and using MOAB and Krazy Kelp with them. Krazy Kelp is 1-0-17 and plan on using the MOAB during week 5 and maybe 6, then using the Krazy Kelp week 7 and 8 depending on harvest time. KK doesnt have the P that Shooting Powder does, but itll help confirm if higher K later in flower is better than P. Which is what alot of bloom boosters come with.
indipow82
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They did not get it wrong Fred. I think it is just the people using it that seem to think that. +rep for putting that out there man. I just like the idea of flushing a little more than three days now from the nitrogen post is all. H&G knows what the heck they are doing obviously!
indipow82
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Fred- See I tried too!
They make a Bloom formula thats not sold in the US, sold in europe though. Ever notice how nute companies use less N in their Bloom formula and H&G has you run the same thing in bloom as veg?
Jozikins
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H&G makes many INCREDIBLE products that aren't available here, cell splitter for example. I happened to get my grubby US paws on it personally, but nobody else here can. There is a lot that has to happen before a product like this can be distributed in the US. We have standards. I'm sure the European bloom formula is much better than our A&B because it was more specifically designed. It's just hard to believe because the A&B kick so much ass already.
AudiA6Driver
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Finally switching to H&G full line and straight coco ( Maybe throw some perlite in for kicks) Can't wait! fuck advanced nutes lol
Jozikins
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Advanced Nutrients sucks my balls.
I tried searching thru the forum and thread before posting this question so i apoligize if its been answerd but im a little concerned. I sprayed my ladies with magic green tonight and they immediatly started to droop. They are about 20 days old. I dont have pics of them drooping because my phone died prior to spraying them but here are pics rite before. Can anyone tell me somthin please
Did you follow the instructions? About 1 tsp. to a qt of ph'd water. I used MG this morning on plants from 3 wks to 11 with no problems.
Jozikins
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How do they look now? Better? Some plants don't like MG that much, try diluting it to under 200ppm, rather than 250ppm. Or even 160-180ppm, so you don't wash calcium out of your leaves. I have some Rolling Thunder that HATES Magic Green, while all my other plants fucking eat it up like candy.
Also, like fredt said, pH.
Also, like fredt said, pH.
I did, this was the first time using the magic green so they werent used to it but they look great now. Think it was the initial introduction to the additive. Thanx for the help
Thanx man they look great now ill keep this info in ind next time i apply the stuff