The original g13 strain/seed

Brick Top

New Member
Go on MR.Nice forum theres more news Nevile says Dr.Greenthumbs is the real deal.Go check it out it's a great read.

Where? And from who? I just went back to Dec. 25, 2011 and didn't find a message from Nevil and the only thing Kanga said was;

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Kangativa

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Join Date: Nov 2011
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[HR][/HR] This is what I like to see is everybody chipping in an adding their part.....to be honest we may never find out if this is the original as stories go it seems very solid and I have it here, so far nothing outstanding has been found yet, but there is still a long way to go......Its like every thing, you can fall in love with the story of this plant, but if it doesnt come close to the high standards that we set then it goes, that is what breeding is all about producing the best


Cheers from Nev by the way.......hopefuly he will be back very soon.
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beans davis

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Where? And from who? I just went back to Dec. 25, 2011 and didn't find a message from Nevil and the only thing Kanga said was;
Hey Brick i like most of your post and like your style, no bullshit in you.I'll have to go back to the site and find it people were still arguing about it.Some were saying nevile can't remember and who knows who really did what.I think several breaders were posting on that thread,matt riot was posting on there i think he is actually trying to learn something.
I'll go on there this evening and hit you back my friend.
 

Brick Top

New Member
Hey Brick i like most of your post and like your style, no bullshit in you.I'll have to go back to the site and find it people were still arguing about it.Some were saying nevile can't remember and who knows who really did what.I think several breaders were posting on that thread,matt riot was posting on there i think he is actually trying to learn something.
I'll go on there this evening and hit you back my friend.
I had followed most of the thread, until recently asking for my account to be closed, but when I went back I couldn't find anything from Nevil and if it doesn't come from him the only believable one if speaking for him would be Kanga.

Like many I had my doubts about Dr. Greenthumb's G13 being real, and I expressed them. Dogless claimed that when Shantibaba and others said the strain lost vigor and died it was actually a virus and that he cured it and that is how he managed to hang onto it.

Dogless sent me a PM saying that he would answer any and all questions I had but would prefer to do it in PMs. I asked him what virus the his G13 plants had and what cured it, and added that I wanted to ask my four rels with botany and horticulture degrees (3 with 1, 1 with the other) about the virus and if it can be cured and if so what cure or cures work.

Dogless never replied.

I did not contact him, he contacted me. I did not ask if I could ask him questions, he offered to answer any and all questions I had. I asked the one mentioned above, he never replied.

To me that sounds like the virus story is just that, a story, and he knew if he told me some made up story I would be able to find out it was made up. So he broke off communications.

Since Nevil stopped posting on the MNS forum there has been a lot of guessing and assuming and accusing going on, which is in part why Nevil stopped posting. I received a couple PMs from him and in one of them that is the reason he gave for stopping posting after he started his "Grail" thread.

But I will be totally stunned if he comes back and posts that Dr. Greenthumbs G13 is real. The original description given by Nevil 'back in the day' is totally different than Dr. Greenthumb's description. The pictures of G13 from Neville's old seed catalog show the plant as being different from Dr. Greenthumbs. But Dr. Greenthumbs description and pictures do closely match Nev's G13xNL5 .. and that is what I believe Dr. Greenthumbs G13 to be.
 

*BUDS

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I purchased the dr greenthumb G13 seeds. Sprouted 2 (got one in the fridge you get 3 in the pack) ended up with one shorter growing dark green leaves resin coated pheno and a taller one not as good, ive recently put 80 clones outside(guerilla style) and will post pics in the coming months. I have grown a couple(g13 clones) under lights vegged to about a foot for a sample smoke, I would have to say the resin coated short one one blew me away(best stuff ive smoked in many years of smoking,customers say as good as anything they've had ), the other pheno was pretty good too but not as hard and sticky like the shorter nicer one which are 90% of the outdoor clones i put out.
Brick top could be right maybe its bullshit and i doubt 1-5 pounds per plant but what ever it is im very impressed so far and well worth the money as ive already produced 90 clones and still got 3 mums. I will post pics as soon as its worth taking pics.(early autumn)
Also i found this on wikipedia

-HistoryThe origin of G-13 is likely one of the most perplexing of any strain, making it the subject of many urban legends. According to some accounts, in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s the CIA, FBI, and other government agencies collected the best strains from around the world. At a top-secret installation at the University of Mississippi, they bred many new super hybrids. Allegedly, a single cutting of this plant was liberated by an unnamed technician and bred for the masses. The cut, G-13, was said to be the 13th, and one of the most potent, in a series of pure Afghani strains. [SUP][2][/SUP]
The facts, however, provide no substantiating evidence. Although cannabis researchers at the University of Mississippi did assemble a world-class cannabis collection during the late 1960s and early 1970s, there is no evidence that these researchers were ever involved in breeding high quality marijuana.[SUP][1][/SUP]
[edit] Medical uses

This strain is often used in relieving symptoms of stress, anxiety, pain, appetite loss, insomnia, and even depression, providing patients with an uplifting and joyful mindset.[SUP][2][/SUP]
[edit] Characteristics

G-13 is characterized as having very dense and sticky resin-covered buds. The strain gives off a powerfully thick aroma, often described as having a fruity hint. While the average THC content of G-13 is constantly debated, it likely exceeds that of most other strains. Many reports claim that this strain can reach up to 28% THC levels,[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][clarification needed][/SUP] however even the highest THC levels rarely surpass 20%.[SUP][1][/SUP] An estimate of between 15-20% THC levels is more reliable.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][clarification needed][/SUP]
As of late 2011, G-13 is priced at between 40 and 50 dollars per eighth at medical dispensaries in the Seattle, WA area.[SUP][2][/SUP]
 

*BUDS

Well-Known Member
I also purchased the iranian auto flower(greenthumb) and wasnt happy with it at all, , light weight buds and rough dirty smoke,shit.
 

heyYousGuys

New Member
I had followed most of the thread, until recently asking for my account to be closed, but when I went back I couldn't find anything from Nevil..............................


But I will be totally stunned if he comes back and posts that Dr. Greenthumbs G13 is real. The original description given by Nevil 'back in the day' is totally different than Dr. Greenthumb's description. The pictures of G13 from Neville's old seed catalog show the plant as being different from Dr. Greenthumbs. But Dr. Greenthumbs description and pictures do closely match Nev's G13xNL5 .. and that is what I believe Dr. Greenthumbs G13 to be.

I read all 94 pages. And to this day I still believe the Doc's G13 is not from a pure cut. And from what I gather, Greenthumb has been caught in lies before.
People talk about this G13 like it's God's gift, when I am sure there are better strains out there.
 

beans davis

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Brick,I can't seem to find it but i didn't look to long there's a lot of arguing & bullshit to sort thru.Your research and conclusion that the strain in question is G13XNL5 is probably true imo,i don't think you leave any stones unturned in your research.From the description of the original g13 i believe the g13xnl5 would be much better than the pure g13.
I might have gotten it from these post BY KANGATIVE O.K. I'm here on behalf of Neville so don't shoot me i showed Neville the pics. of the g13 that dr.greenthumb put in skunk mag. and he said that is exactly his g13 he gave dogless and dd.Now he does'nt want to get into this discussion about dr.g's description of his g13,but if you pm him he is quite willing yo tell you.....ect.
Also the op Dr.greenthumbs g13!!!! by dogless(jim ortega)about selling the strain to dr.g for 25 grand.
Neville seems to think highly of dogless and said he gave the cut to jim in the 80s.
Posted by neville: If a fellow who calls himself dogless talks about the ortega lines i advise you sit and pay attention.
Seems to be a never ending argument.I believe if there was definitive proof Brick Top would have found it.
 

Brick Top

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I read all 94 pages. And to this day I still believe the Doc's G13 is not from a pure cut. And from what I gather, Greenthumb has been caught in lies before.
People talk about this G13 like it's God's gift, when I am sure there are better strains out there.

I do not for one second believe Dr. Greenthumb's G13 is the Real McCoy. The closest I think it is to it is either someone prior to Dr. Greenthumb (the most likely) or Dr. Greenthumb got a G13 X NL5 and repeatedly backcrossed it trying to reinforce the traits they believed were the most G13-like and when they got as close as they could they decided it's virtually the same thing (in their minds) so it's Kool and the Gang to claim it's kosher, and of course that Dr. Greenthumb knows and is totally fine with it since he can charge so much for it.

And what reinforces by believing that is my experience with Dr. Greenthumb's alleged Acapulco Gold back when he had what he called his Heritage Line, and his Acapulco Gold was closer to Ghetto Gold than real Acapulco Gold.

At the same time I will say that based on what I have read about the strain, it's good. I would not want to say what price I think would be reasonable for it, but I will say that I do not see it being worth $100.00 for two seeds and then getting a third with them 'for free.' But then others will see a true value in that 'deal' and jump on it.

If someone is a small businessperson and they grow from clones, if their product is well received by their clientele then it will not take long to be money ahead and after that it's pure gravy.

It's all about how value differs from one to another more than anything else.
 

cjjames

Member
We have it here in Wa. State...Very rarely but,you can run across a co-op grower who might part w/1 clone for an astronomical price, but, there are definetly better strains that we have that were developed from BC n local growers I will recommend 1: Washington Evergreen #13.... I had a clone that I forced flowering on & it tested out @ 21.6% THC 3.1% CBN Very cerebral, Energetic, 5.5 Hr. on 3 one hits.....
 

PJ Diaz

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My local dispensary has G-13 clones for $10 a pop. I got one a couple months back, and am at 4 weeks flowering right now. It actually has more of a sativa look as far as the leaves go, but the buds are looking more Indica. Seems to have kind of a citrusy aroma at this point, but it's still real early in the game. I can grab a pic with the lights on later.

I can't really speak for the lineage of this plant, but this dispensary is known for having excellent cuts. This cut doesn't appear to be any exception to the rule.

http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8317&Itemid=118
 

karmas a bitch

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The legend of the g13. This one always intrigues me. The clone of g13 I have had for around 10 years. But the clone is 20+ years old. When something gets to be that old who can say if its the real deal or not? Its the same cut that was used to make the lemon g.I do know that it is easily recognize able. It has a unique smell unlike anything else. It is very potent. It yields ok but nothing crazy. The nuggets look the same pretty much no matter who grows it. I've always wanted someone who "knows" to see it. If I have a cross and don't know it I wouldn't be disappointed. Because this plant is a good one. I would be surprised though because all these peeps that are in the "know" all call this the g13.
 

weednseed

Member
Anyone know which bank has the original G13 that was 'supposedly' designed by the US goverment several years back?

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correct there are no seeds for original strain, however the plant does indeed exist. my buddy grows it still to this day, very very potent and sweet taste. smoke it all the time.
 

bluntmassa1

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correct there are no seeds for original strain, however the plant does indeed exist. my buddy grows it still to this day, very very potent and sweet taste. smoke it all the time.[/QUOTE]

I bet you do, nobody has the real cut except your buddy pics or it didn't happen.
 

15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
G13Sk, g13 widow, g13 Hz all from mr nice seed bank. The g13 hash plant from sensi seeds ain't wat it once was, because I talk to some breeders of the strain. Not Neville but the breeders at sensi.
 
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