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chex1111

chex1111

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xtsho said:
Miracle Grow is not owned by Monsato/Bayer. The relationship they have with Monsanto is they are the sole distributor for Roundup. They are completely different companies with different ownership.
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Are you a schill for Scott's? I find this ridiculous that i'm told on this thread that Miracle Grow/ Scott's owns pure blend so I should respect that the company is good- for buying out a startup that actually made a good product. Miracle grow works, we used it 30 years ago, discovered the dye stays in the plants and the product tastes like ass. Scott's is a company with terrible moral track record- roundup has created huge problems with animal and fish populations as well as human casualties. These greedy morally bankrupt suits use their dirty money to buy good, somewhat sustainable companies and try to take credit for the deeds of the companies they bought out.
As for using miracle grow as a base and adding other products- This is misleading, especially when you don't say what the other products are. If it works great, why would you have to add other products?
You see people using high-quality nutrient and their product is not better? Well there are plenty of uneducated growers. If you can't grow better bud using pureblend, you are fucking up.
For professional recreational growers, the crop inputs need to be recorded. Miracle grow is not considered top-shelf. It is not chelated. It does not have humic/fulvic acid. There is no seaweed extract for flavour.
Next thing here, you are going to say something like- go ahead and don't buy anything from Scotts companies then. Some kind of blame the victim because the suits are trying to take over cannabis nonsense.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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chex1111 said:
Are you a schill for Scott's? I find this ridiculous that i'm told on this thread that Miracle Grow/ Scott's owns pure blend so I should respect that the company is good- for buying out a startup that actually made a good product. Miracle grow works, we used it 30 years ago, discovered the dye stays in the plants and the product tastes like ass. Scott's is a company with terrible moral track record- roundup has created huge problems with animal and fish populations as well as human casualties. These greedy morally bankrupt suits use their dirty money to buy good, somewhat sustainable companies and try to take credit for the deeds of the companies they bought out.
As for using miracle grow as a base and adding other products- This is misleading, especially when you don't say what the other products are. If it works great, why would you have to add other products?
You see people using high-quality nutrient and their product is not better? Well there are plenty of uneducated growers. If you can't grow better bud using pureblend, you are fucking up.
For professional recreational growers, the crop inputs need to be recorded. Miracle grow is not considered top-shelf. It is not chelated. It does not have humic/fulvic acid. There is no seaweed extract for flavour.
Next thing here, you are going to say something like- go ahead and don't buy anything from Scotts companies then. Some kind of blame the victim because the suits are trying to take over cannabis nonsense.
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I stopped reading your rant after you called me a shill for Scotts.

All I did was correct someone that incorrectly stated that Scotts Miracle Grow was owned by Monsanto.

I could give a damn about that overpriced Botanicare Pure Blend crap.
 
Ryax

Ryax

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have you guys lost your minds?

i feel like if i post my pics now, they're going to say it wasn't grown with miracle grow

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
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GrowUpSun

GrowUpSun

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xtsho said:
People slam Miracle Gro but have never even used it. They just regurgitate all the cannabis snobbery. There are people using Miracle Gro and having better results than many using the most expensive cannabis nutrients and fancy soil. Many people have been led to believe that cannabis requires special products. It doesn't. All one has to do is look at one of many posts where the grower is using expensive soil targeted at cannabis growers and a dozen bottles of nutrients and additives with plants that are crispy fried and look like they came out of a bucket of KFC.

It's ridiculous what's actually going on. All these overpriced products that when you look at the label contains the same ingredients as some other product. But because the other product doesn't have some silly name and isn't targeted specifically towards cannabis growers many will just dismiss it as being no good even though it is perfectly fine to use.

I'm not saying Miracle Gro would be my first choice but if it was all I could get I wouldn't think twice about using it. The goal is to grow weed and you can do that successfully with Miracle Gro if needed.

I have a friend that buys whatever soil is the cheapest and feeds nothing but Alaska Fish fertilizer. They've been growing that way for decades and their results blow away much of what you'll see online from people selling a kidney to pay for all the expensive products they're using.
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Thank you. Exactly well said
 

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budtoker221

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Does it have urea? I used bonide 10 10 10 which is the cheapest bottle plant food in the hardware store, and my buds had a slight rancid cat piss funk that I blamed on the urea.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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GrowUpSun said:
Thank you. Exactly well said
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You better sweep the floor in that grow room. There are some that think you need some special fertilizers that require a dozen bottles and are made just for cannabis. They are not going to like you growing decent plants using Miracle Gro because it goes against everything they believe. When they can't knock you for your plants they'll try and get you for a dirty floor. True story.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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budtoker221 said:
Does it have urea? I used bonide 10 10 10 which is the cheapest bottle plant food in the hardware store, and my buds had a slight rancid cat piss funk that I blamed on the urea.
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There is urea in many nutrients including popular cannabis specific nutrients. Just for kicks I looked at a couple and on my second look at a label I found that Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom has urea in it. That's just one. If I were to spend some time looking at ingredients I could find dozens of cannabis specific products that contain urea.
 
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xtsho

xtsho

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bam0813 said:
Nothing wrong with it, i dont use it or hate on it. I think a good part of peoples dislike of it is probably geared at the company more so than the product
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Yet many of those that don't like the company use GH, Botanicare, Gavita, Sun Systems, and other products made by companies owned by Miracle-Gro. They have a huge presence in the industry and have been buying up smaller companies for years. They've also been one of the biggest financial donors pushing for legalization in many states.

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Lenin1917

Lenin1917

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budtoker221 said:
Does it have urea? I used bonide 10 10 10 which is the cheapest bottle plant food in the hardware store, and my buds had a slight rancid cat piss funk that I blamed on the urea.
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Might be your drying/curing causing that, decomposing plant matter does give off ammonia gasses, probably left it in the jar to long or didn't dry it enough. Happens to the best of us. Grow more!

Kind of reminds me of the whole add sugars to make your buds sweet thing, no that's to feed soil microbes. Urea is in most agricultural fertilizers it's a cheap source of nitrogen and my non organic store bought veggies don't taste like pee, at all.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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xtsho said:
Yet many of those that don't like the company use GH, Botanicare, Gavita, Sun Systems, and other products made by companies owned by Miracle-Gro. They have a huge presence in the industry and have been buying up smaller companies for years. They've also been one of the biggest financial donors pushing for legalization in many states.

www.hawthornegc.com

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That's exactly why I don't buy Botanicare or GH products anymore either. I didn't realize that they also own Sun Systems now too; one more to cross off my list.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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PJ Diaz said:
I am aware. MG is owned by Scotts, who is the main distributor of Round-Up (owned my Monsanto) in North America. Supporting Scotts, supports Monsanto, and also supports the distribution of Round-Up.
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Miracle grow and "monsucko", bayer and few hundred more. Facsimile organic or not. No thank you. Better results with a scoop of your lawn topsoil and the dark wet barespot behind your garage. Just add some lobster kelp fert.

To use or not to use? It creeps in. Get along and grow your plants. You'll grow to greener as a result. LOL.

Organic here. Peace to all growers style.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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xtsho said:
Monsanto is no worse than any of the big oil companies so think about that the next time you get in your car to go somewhere. Talk the talk then walk the walk. Literally...
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I hate to do this with you.

Why is Monsanto no worse? I believe it should be by percentage of deadly afflictions of cancer causing chemicals by parent companies percentage of world sales by volume.

Organics and better is the path.
 
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