The real deal about LED's

brendan007 said:

hi all i,m using a led 90w ufo light is this sufficient to bring on my girls.thanx in advance.

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*its sufficient enough to do both, tho its more heavy on veg than it is on bloom.. so yea, your ufo 90w is enough to start your LED journey

--cheers

..btw, how many plants?

Kaptain Kron said:

yes indeed you could, im leaving that up to canna to test since has the uber 1337 kessil booth with spinner goin on, lol he'll find out about kessil trichome production and how UV affects it. But yea i assume it would fix the problem, UNLESS uv put out by an LED style bulb is different than UV from reptile lamps. I do not know the answer to this though sir. That is a wizard question

and to be entirely frank i dont know for a fact that its UV that has brought down trichome production on the kessils, its a theory i have but i could be totally off. I dont have enough lights to test this since i have to have em all on my plants lol. No longer do i have access to 4 kessils and my panel oh man those were the days lol.

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*uumm kron,,, is there a difference w/ a pound of feathers and a pound of butter..? aside from the obvious ..uv is uv

Myles117 said:

I've noticed you say how some LED system lack the UV light. couldnt you use a reptisun 10.0 UVB bulb alongside the UV lacking lights to eliminate that problem altogether? I use them with my lights since only MH puts out a good amount of UV and they work great. they only 26 watt CFLs

just a thought

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*i started on repti bulbs, and Yes.. they work gotta get atleast the 10.0 not 5.0.. 5.0

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no they are not the same 3w chips the 240 has 3 and 2watt chips that's my biggest problem with this forum is people talking out there asses when I post I always double maybe triple check to make sure I don't sound like an idiot maybe ya'll should try it sometime.

davoswavos said:

no they are not the same 3w chips the 240 has 3 and 2watt chips that's my biggest problem with this forum is people talking out there asses when I post I always double maybe triple check to make sure I don't sound like an idiot maybe ya'll should try it sometime.

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*if your talking about me, thanks.. everything i type up isnt checked, so its not true.. hence i never typed it wink wink haha

--if your talking about capt kron,, fck it.. its true.. LMFAO

yeah I'm late I guess I was back on 1st page maybe irrelevant now.

And yet you make yourself sound like an idiot anyways because there is no 2w chips in a 240w blackstar..... thank you. please come again

davoswavos said:

no they are not the same 3w chips the 240 has 3 and 2watt chips that's my biggest problem with this forum is people talking out there asses when I post I always double maybe triple check to make sure I don't sound like an idiot maybe ya'll should try it sometime.

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Yea imma be an asshole on this thread might as well let everyone know now but if i get one hint of bullshittery going on in here ill just have the thread locked. I really dont want it to be like every other LED thread on the face of the planet. So yea im gonna be a lil cranky til we can keep this thread on track. I already see it happening. lol

Is a 90w UFO enough for my plants? Thats a question not for this LED thread thank you. You should take a look around and do some more research on them in the other threads, they will tell you what you want to know.

THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR THAT. Lets keep it to advanced LED questions thanks.

cannawizard said:

* sorry FOLKS!.. capt kron can get a lil cranky on the net before his pornhub sessions.. so just leave him be.. LOL

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this is pasted from gotham's web page, is it bull or do they really use 2W chips?

"The BLACKSTAR line uses 2w and 3w chipsets, delivering the most powerful LED's in the world."

and when you call the owner and ask him what chips are in the 240 whats he going to tell u, they use 3w chips, its an old add from AGES ago, like 2009

stoneyluv said:

this is pasted from gotham's web page, is it bull or do they really use 2W chips?

"The BLACKSTAR line uses 2w and 3w chipsets, delivering the most powerful LED's in the world."

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Kaptain Kron said:

and when you call the owner and ask him what chips are in the 240 whats he going to tell u, they use 3w chips, its an old add from AGES ago, like 2009

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thanks for clearing that up. it seems there are a few MFG's with outdated web sites. I should trade web site maintenance for lights!!

haha theres a plan stoney do it up man i bet you could talk s1 into it lol

Joedank said:

blackstar it is then!! i was leaning that way but the wizard was getting me confused with his shiny new gear... glad you have had both awhile rep for you gangster!!

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Blackstar 240w only pulls 133w, supposedly. Pretty good info either way. Heres the link http://bubbleponics.com/forum/showthread.php?2690-My-first-LED-grow!-Lighthouse-Blackstar-240W-side-by-side-with-Grow-LED-Hydro-240W

good link man

gotham claims the blackstar pulls 120 or at least he told me that on the phone, Nice to see that it draws a bit more.

Thanks I try, lol. Iv'e done cfl, wanna spend a little better money on led. I was seriously considering a 90w led (2 plants at the most). I know how you feel about this thread Kron, but seriously whats your opinion on this? Is there a dependable 90w that produces good, done research and it seems to me, the good weighs evenly with the bad. I really want led because of heat issues. Thanks.

I can honoestly say no not that i have seen i heard that GLH had a 100w or something that was somewhat affordable? that is what i would look at, the blackstar one will work but not really for flower, the smallest i would go with blackstar would be a 240 becuase those smaller ones just arent puttin down the juice i mean they use the same led's and shit and same spectrum so the nug you get will be good just not as MUCH.

*i put a my wants w/ blackstar.. and avdLED for 240s/300s ...so blackstars & diamonds coming up thnx for the gifts kron!

lol let me know how those diamonds work out im interested in them, whats the price like on em right now for a 300? is that the size closest to a blackstar 240? cause its either that or its GLH man and im seriously leaning towards GLH right now. at the same time the thread that was posted made me feel better about my blackstar purchase too because the guy got very similar results but the GLH beat it out i think he said by about 15-20%

johnp410 said:

Blackstar 240w only pulls 133w, supposedly. Pretty good info either way. Heres the link http://bubbleponics.com/forum/showthread.php?2690-My-first-LED-grow!-Lighthouse-Blackstar-240W-side-by-side-with-Grow-LED-Hydro-240W

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Kaptain Kron said:

good link man

gotham claims the blackstar pulls 120 or at least he told me that on the phone, Nice to see that it draws a bit more.

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you guys are kinda both correct... the "light" part draws 120. the other 13W comes from the fans i believe.

I wanted to clear something up about comparing a few of the most popular brands of LED lights. The Blackstar 240 advertises 240w, even though it only pushes ~120w. This is due to the fact that the Blackstar uses 80x3w LED's (and I actually think the 2 white ones are 2w). The GLH Spectra 180, however, advertises their true wattage. So even though there are 100x3w LED's (presumably 300 advertis-able watts), they opt to only advertise the true power draw. The AdvancedLED is similar to GLH, in that they advertise close to the "true" wattage, but they are not spot on.

The point of this post was not to question the quality of the Blackstar, but to clear up the advertising discrepancies between the companies. When you match up the true wattage, the price, and efficiency of the 4-5 most popular brands are actually much closer than they seem.

Food for thought at least, if you are looking to do a side-by-side, or if you are wondering why the Blackstar500 and the Spectra180 are around the same price. They are actually much closer to each other than it might appear at first glance.

Like I said, I'm not questioning the Blackstar lights in any way. They're proven. The way they market their product is peculiar is all. Also, I think it might be a popular mis-conception that Blackstar lights perform inferior to other lights the "same" wattage, when really the comparison may not have been fair in the first place. Thanks for reading!