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I have not been keeping up, last I heard they were up to a few seconds, up to 40 seconds.
The renewable energy changes and policy
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Ozumoz66
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Good score on the 383. Thnx for the link.yeah i can see cost being the decision maker there.....i had a 76 short bed chevy pickup one time, i was rebuilding it at a friends of the families place...told the man i was finally time for the motor, the guy told me to look out back and pick a 350 i can rebuild, i said ok.....got the motor into the shop a low and behold the one i picked wasn't a 350, it was a 383 and i didn't tell anyone......i'm a stinker....
btw those kits for the Vw's are about 20g to do.....here:
EV West - We sell EV parts but service is our business
www.evwest.com
Wish I still have my '72 Chev fleet side w/350 2brl. Got a rust free box & cab for it out of Oklahoma and had it painted British racing green. Sold it for $3500 in 2000 - regret it ever since.
Had a '76 super beetle with a fuel injected 1600cc engine, velour seat, air shocks - so mags wouldn't scrub, and 400watt amp to drive the 10" subs and 6x9s. Sold it when we purchased our first home - needed fridge, stove, washer and dryer. Fond memories.
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Electric Shock: An Existential Crisis in the German Auto Industry
Electric cars are selling poorly, and many German manufacturers are still focusing on the combustion engine. The threat from cheaper Chinese competitors is growing. Might this be the death knell of Germany's fabled automobile industry?
The Chinese Offensive: "A Bloodbath"
“The reason for the overproduction: Almost all providers in China have state investors, either as joint venture partners or as major shareholders. It is in their interest to keep the factories running, even if there are no domestic customers for the vehicles. The government in Beijing wants to avoid unemployment and achieve the growth target of around 5 percent at all costs. This is another reason why BYD and the other Chinese cars are pushing onto the global markets – and causing a price war that some car company executives have described as a "bloodbath."
The fact that German manufacturers are giving them plenty of space is providing even more of a boost. BYD even ousted Volkswagen as a sponsor for the marketing of the 2024 European Football Championship in Germany.”
“In China, BYD is already selling what German manufacturers can't currently offer: an affordable mass model at a competitive price of less than 10,000 euros. The BYD Seagull will soon be available in Germany. The price tag is likely to be higher than it is in China. But even at 20,000 euros, the Chinese would still be undercutting all Western manufacturers.”
If that’s not bad enough, their profit margins are higher for BYD. While unfortunately often inevitable, I try to avoid buying anything made in China. Feels any effort is useless when the west is going to send billions more by buying their EVs.
It's very likely Tesla would have done extremely well in Europe if it had focused on smaller affordable models instead of the silly truck.
Although... Elon being Elon isn't helping either.
Potential Tesla buyers steer clear as Musk's reputation plunges
Elon Musk's increasingly controversial reputation has led to a steep drop in the number of customers considering buying a Tesla.
www.euronews.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
This Fox hit piece shows grooming in action. The base are being lectured on how green energy is bad, bad, bad. Note links to further negaprop on renewables as a Democrat axe against freedum.
www.foxnews.com
Backlash against wind and solar projects is real, it’s global and it’s growing | Fox News
There have been at least 639 rejections or restrictions on US wind or solar projects since 2015
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
AI and discriminatory hiring practices
AI is causing massive hiring discrimination based on disability
AI hiring tools have automated violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
thehill.com
Sativied
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The German car manufacturers oppose raising import taxes on Chinese EVs, worried that will cause a trade war. At first surprising but it makes sense given the export market, especially to China, is much larger. Mercedes and BMW are pretty popular among the richer Chinese.
www.euractiv.com
They also seem to see it for what it is, populism at EU level, not something based on research and reason regarding what's good for Germany on a national level. Never liked unelected Ursula. Admittedly partly because everything about her screams 'christian democrats', conservatives that held this part of Europe back on many topics even those less batshit Christians consider too progressives, but mostly because she's acting like she's POTEU, while she's merely president of the European Commission. No such thing as president of the EU. She'll probably get the position for another 5 years though.
Obviously could be worse with the current political climate, but the actual climate is not better off given the fact it's often the christian democrats (generally center/center-right conservatives) who choose to appease far-right and farmers on delaying or reducing climate measures. Especially in Germany. Which actually seems to work... Merkel like Ursula was also CDU. When Merkel left they lost, barely, and Scholz got to form a broader coalation, including the Greens. AfD (far-right) was rising, but appears to be losing gains in the poll, while CDU is large again, over 31% far ahead of others.
German car lobby chief criticises von der Leyen's solo run on Chinese EVs
The decision to open an anti-subsidy investigation against Chinese electric cars was not sufficiently coordinated with Berlin, the head of the German car industry association VDA said on Thursday (11 April), criticising von der Leyen’s solo effort.
They also seem to see it for what it is, populism at EU level, not something based on research and reason regarding what's good for Germany on a national level. Never liked unelected Ursula. Admittedly partly because everything about her screams 'christian democrats', conservatives that held this part of Europe back on many topics even those less batshit Christians consider too progressives, but mostly because she's acting like she's POTEU, while she's merely president of the European Commission. No such thing as president of the EU. She'll probably get the position for another 5 years though.
Obviously could be worse with the current political climate, but the actual climate is not better off given the fact it's often the christian democrats (generally center/center-right conservatives) who choose to appease far-right and farmers on delaying or reducing climate measures. Especially in Germany. Which actually seems to work... Merkel like Ursula was also CDU. When Merkel left they lost, barely, and Scholz got to form a broader coalation, including the Greens. AfD (far-right) was rising, but appears to be losing gains in the poll, while CDU is large again, over 31% far ahead of others.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
AI for nuclear plants? ORNL supercomputer's new task is no sci-fi - it's a clean energy win
In order to run efficiently, the nuclear energy sector will need AI. In order to expand AI, tech companies will need nuclear power.
www.knoxnews.com
Sativied
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Report: Vehicles shipped to US used parts made in China with forced labor
BMW, Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen have used parts from a Chinese supplier barred for forced labor practices
www.voanews.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Teslas are jam-packed with Chinese content. We are not winning a massive trade war."Free Uyghurs""Buy Tesla"
Report: Vehicles shipped to US used parts made in China with forced labor
BMW, Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen have used parts from a Chinese supplier barred for forced labor practices
BudmanTX
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Thanks for the article"Free Uyghurs""Buy Tesla"
Report: Vehicles shipped to US used parts made in China with forced labor
BMW, Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen have used parts from a Chinese supplier barred for forced labor practices
Sativied
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Not winning and seemingly hardly even putting up a fight.
A new Tesla CEO, an ethics commission, a smaller/medium-size model, proper dealerships with physical locations, and europeans would be all over Tesla again. I think GM discontuining the Chevy Spark was a huge mistake too.
I bought several news cars, well, paid by then employer, and the normal way to go about that was to go to the dealers. Check out the models in a showroom, touch the steering wheel, test the seats, etc. Tesla you had to buy online. They have some ‘shops’ now. China (I think it’s fair to say China instead of Chinese carmakers) takes a different approach, sold online, use our ports for storage:
European ports turned into car parks as EV makers hunt buyers
Sales of electric cars in Europe are relatively low, but it is just one reason why the vehicles are piling up in Europe's major ports.
www.euronews.com
The ports of Antwerp and Zeebrugge in Belgium are reportedly flooded with EVs from China, however, the port told Euronews that it is not only Chinese vehicles which are involved. But they did not disclose any other exporter countries contributing to the problem.
However, Le Monde reported that at Calloo, near Antwerp, and Zeebrugge, the huge parking lots to accommodate 130,000 freshly shipped vehicles, are cramped now with Chinese models, including MG, BYD, Nio, XPeng, Lynk & Co, Omoda, Hongqi, among others.
(Peugeots in the pic so French cars too but that’s just a fraction).
Most sold EV in NL so far in 2024 is the Volvo EX30, second spot Tesla Y. In Germany VW and Tesla are neck and neck for the nr 1 spot. First half of 2023 Tesla sold more EVs to Germans than the major German car makers did combined. This year is looking different, especially BYD is doing well, stole Tesla’s position as most sold EV worldwide.
The building below is since a few days a ’showroom’ from Nio, Chinese EV. In the center of Amsterdam. Building commisioned by a NY insurance company in 1891, monumental status. Was tallest privately owned building at the time. Bought clothes there a few times, was only Abercrombie and Fitch location in NL. One of the most expensive places to rent in the city and because of its monument status very expensive to change the interior.
NIO reported ~750million(USD!) losses in Q4 2023… which is no problem cause China hands out billions in subsidies to flood the global market.
Another one recently opened one up down the street. It has 1 car and no soul…
Meanwhile China, in addition to the forced labor and unfair business practices, supports Russia’s war that is costing us billions as well. It’s stupid. Hard to impossible to avoid ‘made in China’ entirely but I’d be really embarrassed driving a Chinese EV. Trump’s china tarrifs were part of America First, but really, if anything, the aim should be China last…
Doesn’t make up for all the bad ideas, but this sure sounds good:
Donald Trump’s 60% Tariff on Chinese Imports | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
2024-04-10-Former President and current Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump recently proposed implementing a
“we estimate this tariff increase would reduce imports from China by about 85 percent”
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
and helium! Helium sources are scarce as hens’ teeth.
www.forbes.com
The Hydrogen Race Has A New, Low-Cost, Underground Runner
The case for producing hydrogen from underground reservoirs like methane-rich natural gas took another step forward last week.
www.forbes.com
Sativied
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EU shocks China with EV duties of up to 38 percent
Beijing has threatened to retaliate against European aviation, farmers and spirits makers if Brussels targets its electric vehicle makers with punitive tariffs.
"The EU already charges a tariff of 10 percent on any foreign-made vehicle, versus China’s 15 percent level. The duties announced on Wednesday will be added on top of that, meaning that at the highest level they would approach 50 percent."
Up to double the % Biden imposed a few months ago. Maybe this will trigger a transatlantic race to keep communist authoritarian China from dumping EV on our markets.
Not everyone in Germany is happy about it, especially the car industry who exports a lot to China as well. From another article: "The Chinese Passenger Car Association seemed less concerned. "The EU's provisional tariffs come basically within our expectations, averaging around 20%, which won't have much of an impact on the majority of Chinese firms."
The profit margins are so large the Chinese EV manufacturers won't even need to raise the prices to still make money and be competitive. So it's uncertain this means less Chinese EVs. At least it means less money to China. Volvo decided to move back to Europe the production of two popular models so that's good too. They're partly Chinese now, the move is to circumvent duties but again less money for China and a small economic boast for the area where they'll move it.
Member states get to keep a 25% of the EU duties collected, like those where Chinese EV arrive by sea, main harbors in NL, Germany and Belgium. Rest goes to EU budget. Would be nice if there was a provision included to use the earnings to address climate change. Though that usually involves buying parts, solar panels, or raw materials from China and they're threatening to retaliate.
Fogdog
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EU Customers pay the tax/tariff. The real answer is to work on your own costs, not make the products of others less affordable to customers. That said, China is supposedly subsidizing the production of EV vehicles in order to stimulate investment in said production. Hence tariffs. Perhaps the answer lies other than tariffs that shift costs to customers and shrink the overall market. Maybe I just don't understand tariffs.EU shocks China with EV duties of up to 38 percent
Beijing has threatened to retaliate against European aviation, farmers and spirits makers if Brussels targets its electric vehicle makers with punitive tariffs.www.politico.eu
"The EU already charges a tariff of 10 percent on any foreign-made vehicle, versus China’s 15 percent level. The duties announced on Wednesday will be added on top of that, meaning that at the highest level they would approach 50 percent."
Up to double the % Biden imposed a few months ago. Maybe this will trigger a transatlantic race to keep communist authoritarian China from dumping EV on our markets.
Not everyone in Germany is happy about it, especially the car industry who exports a lot to China as well. From another article: "The Chinese Passenger Car Association seemed less concerned. "The EU's provisional tariffs come basically within our expectations, averaging around 20%, which won't have much of an impact on the majority of Chinese firms."
The profit margins are so large the Chinese EV manufacturers won't even need to raise the prices to still make money and be competitive. So it's uncertain this means less Chinese EVs. At least it means less money to China. Volvo decided to move back to Europe the production of two popular models so that's good too. They're partly Chinese now, the move is to circumvent duties but again less money for China and a small economic boast for the area where they'll move it.
Member states get to keep a 25% of the EU duties collected, like those where Chinese EV arrive by sea, main harbors in NL, Germany and Belgium. Rest goes to EU budget. Would be nice if there was a provision included to use the earnings to address climate change. Though that usually involves buying parts, solar panels, or raw materials from China and they're threatening to retaliate.
Sativied
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Technically importers pay the tariffs. Who then pass those costs on to retailers. The consumer pays for the car barely knowing how that price is established. Most they know and care about is how it compares to prices of other brands and models in their desired segment.
When Trump introduced his tariffs I pointed out many times to his fans that it will be US customers and not China who’ll end up paying. Which was true because those tariffs would and did often directly increase consumer prices of the imported products, i.e. were passed on to consumers. Where that wasn’t the case it were often still the US companies and importers who had to share the damage and take a hit in profits.
The shift to consumers is however not a given, is not an automatic effect of tariffs, just the regular practical way to deal with them in order for everyone in the chain to still make a fair profit. Emphasis on fair. This, EVs, is an entirely different ball game than gouda cheese or soda can metal (examples where everyone in the chain, from manufacturers to end consumers split the increased costs).
China competes not by necessarily offering cheaper cars but more car (and options) for your money. Shifting the tariffs on to customers by raising the retail price accordingly or in large part, would put their cars in a different price segment where they cannot compete in the same way and would for many kill the incentive many customers have to buy a chinese EV at all.
It’s still doubtful it will work great, some don’t even need to make a profit, not on the overproduction they want to dump anyway, but I think it’s a good thing that should be reevaluated frequently.
“The real answer is to work on your own costs, not make the products of others less affordable to customers.”
That would be a fair approach in a fair normal trade relationship. It’s not a realistic answer to the real problem at hand, which isn’t too high costs or high profit margings for those being protected, nor a lack of efforts to reduce them. The problem is products that have artificially with government subsidies (which with exceptions is illegal in EU) made more affordable to consumers resulting in unfair competition.
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Sativied
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I missed this one before my previous posts: Biden increases tariffs on Chinese EV to 100%:
Don’t expect prices of Chinese EV in US to increase accordingly and customers effectively paying the tariffs. Instead, China will have to export them cheaper, take less profit, so that after profit margins in the chain and taxes it enters the consumer market at a similar competitive retail price. Else it kills their main stategy and it’s still a win.
Tesla did announce prices hikes, which seems too soon regardless of what Musk does not necessarily making any sense, cause EU is still working on an exception for Teslas from China. Regardless, Tesla can do that and keep their position.
Chinese car makers doing well on stock exchanges since the EU tariffs news as investors know too they can handle it (and those who might not, like state-owned SAIC, shouldn’t).
Don’t expect prices of Chinese EV in US to increase accordingly and customers effectively paying the tariffs. Instead, China will have to export them cheaper, take less profit, so that after profit margins in the chain and taxes it enters the consumer market at a similar competitive retail price. Else it kills their main stategy and it’s still a win.
Tesla did announce prices hikes, which seems too soon regardless of what Musk does not necessarily making any sense, cause EU is still working on an exception for Teslas from China. Regardless, Tesla can do that and keep their position.
Chinese car makers doing well on stock exchanges since the EU tariffs news as investors know too they can handle it (and those who might not, like state-owned SAIC, shouldn’t).
Sativied
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Just a short addendum: 75-80% of the import duties, the portion the collection member state doesn't get to keep, goes to the EU budget and is subtracted from the total of Gross National Income-based EU contributions. Effectively, an increase in EU import duties translates to less national income tax of all member states needing to go to the EU. That's music to not just net-contributor's ears. It's not my prediction or speculation, it's the expectation of those working on it and those dealing with it, that it will cut into profits much more than it will and realistically can increase consumer prices. If a consumer needs to pay a couple of thousand more and EU gets 3-4 times that, that what China doesn't get, and then effectively gets spread out over all income tax paying EU citizens. Money paid by those who can afford an EV. Then yeah, more of this EU stuff please (no way we could do this on a national level without starting a trade war).
CANON_Grow
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New concrete can turn your home into a giant battery
MIT researchers say material could also be used in roads to wirelessly charge cars as they travel