The Sage of South Central comments on taxpayer subsidies.

medicineman

medicineman

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Hey shame,(The name is right) let me clue you on a couple of things. Unless you make 25.00+ an hr., you can't even think about supporting yourself, let alone a family. And how does the average poor person get one of those jobs. They are all taken unless you have a relative in the fold. You make it sound so easy. Just get off your dead ass and go out and get a friken job. Well My friend, those jobs that are out there pay about 7.50 an hr, thats 300.00 a week before taxes. what the fuck are you supposed to do with that. Now you are in the working poor category and are not entitled to any govt. subsidies, no rent help, no food help, no medical help, you're actually worse off than if you had your wife and kids on welfare and sold drugs for cash. The system is fucked.
Don't put me in that category as I always worked and made the 20-25 bucks an hr. Obviously you've had a few breaks in your life also, but to call all the poor, lazy scumbags, is over the top. Krime is right, maybe someone needs to knock you upside your head and take some of your cash, give you some insight into the real world.
 
shamegame

shamegame

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medicineman said:
Hey shame,(The name is right) let me clue you on a couple of things. Unless you make 25.00+ an hr., you can't even think about supporting yourself, let alone a family. And how does the average poor person get one of those jobs. They are all taken unless you have a relative in the fold. You make it sound so easy. Just get off your dead ass and go out and get a friken job. Well My friend, those jobs that are out there pay about 7.50 an hr, thats 300.00 a week before taxes. what the fuck are you supposed to do with that. Now you are in the working poor category and are not entitled to any govt. subsidies, no rent help, no food help, no medical help, you're actually worse off than if you had your wife and kids on welfare and sold drugs for cash. The system is fucked.
Don't put me in that category as I always worked and made the 20-25 bucks an hr. Obviously you've had a few breaks in your life also, but to call all the poor, lazy scumbags, is over the top. Krime is right, maybe someone needs to knock you upside your head and take some of your cash, give you some insight into the real world.
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So Krime, the guy that pretty much said if he could , he would shoot all those that make more than him. And now you think it's a good idea to commit violence against me and rob me? I see the folks I am dealing with now.

Don't either of you morons realize that the truly "rich" are usually not against helping the poor ? Many rich folks give to charities, do this, do that and they can help while having the luxury of not even feeling a pinch. It is people like me that are fairly well off that get hurt the most by all the different groups fucking things up for everyone. My homeowners insurance costs me more because others choose to steal instead of work. My auto insurance has quadrupled due to all the fucking illegals who crash their car into something and flee the scene, my healthcare costs me a ton more because of illegals and legal folks who use the emergency rooms like their own private doctor's office. My taxes go up every year because the number of people with no means to support themselves are flooding my state. My water bill has gone up 600% because of all the low income people living 10+ to a house .......
t goes on and on.

Don't get me wrong. I do not see all the poor as scum, I just see so many folks that choose not to better their lives.I choose not to subsidize their career choices.This country provides the opportunity for everyone to go to college.There are so many scholarships for the under privaleged it's not funny. I just want to keep my tax dollars going to pay for someone else's lives to a minimum. I would rather they go for things that benefit EVERYONE , like reforming teaching standards and re-certifying all of California's teachers so our kids can actually learn in school again....

But I am glad to see that for all of your talk, you are just a couple of violent socialists that would cause harm or murder someone who dosen't agree with you.

Peace.
 
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krime13

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Hay! Don't put words in my mouth that I have never said! I have no problems with rich folks, hell most of my life I work for rich folk, was and still am friends with most of my former employers, and you are right, some of them work dam hard , but most of them, unlike you shamegame are also very dicent and compassionate people who do give to charityes on top of paying theyr taxes...As far as breaking the law, hell I am all for it, Shamegame, me and the wife are gonna get the divorce so she can go on wealfare, so we can save up to put our kids through collage so they can be just like you when they grow up LOL it is a dog eat dog world out there and god dammit YOUR AND VI's money are gonna put my kids trough colloge , I just want you two to know this...And yes on top of it I'm gonna grow lots of weed so I can peacefully retyre, cos I'm still gonna work the 2 jobs...So guys , you can bitch all you want, but me and the wife are gonna makesure that our bloodline will continue, and if it involves getting some of our tax money back, so be it...Hopefully we'll get some of Vi's and Shamegames money too (medicate, VIC, Foodstamps) that will just be the icing on the cake! Peace.
 
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krime13

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Hey , is that threat worked better for you two? Cos I showed you I can actually hit you guys where YOU hurt the most, your vallets!!!!
PS: Oh and by the way all the lights in my grow room used to be the property of the city of Philadelphia, hey its war on drugs out there so I just used the enemy!!!Now that the city will have to replace those lights they might not affort to expand the police force!!!
 
shamegame

shamegame

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krime13 said:
Hay! Don't put words in my mouth that I have never said! I have no problems with rich folks, hell most of my life I work for rich folk, was and still am friends with most of my former employers, and you are right, some of them work dam hard , but most of them, unlike you shamegame are also very dicent and compassionate people who do give to charityes on top of paying theyr taxes...As far as breaking the law, hell I am all for it, Shamegame, me and the wife are gonna get the divorce so she can go on wealfare, so we can save up to put our kids through collage so they can be just like you when they grow up LOL it is a dog eat dog world out there and god dammit YOUR AND VI's money are gonna put my kids trough colloge , I just want you two to know this...And yes on top of it I'm gonna grow lots of weed so I can peacefully retyre, cos I'm still gonna work the 2 jobs...So guys , you can bitch all you want, but me and the wife are gonna makesure that our bloodline will continue, and if it involves getting some of our tax money back, so be it...Hopefully we'll get some of Vi's and Shamegames money too (medicate, VIC, Foodstamps) that will just be the icing on the cake! Peace.
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And you just proved my point. You are as childish and selfish as they come. But unfortunately you don't have the power to choose where mine or anyone else's tax dollars go. You never even asked if I donate money or time to a charity.The fact is I do. And if nothing else I sleep well at night knowing I am a better human being than you and others like you. So in the end I win.

Amazing.
 
shamegame

shamegame

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krime13 said:
Hey , is that threat worked better for you two? Cos I showed you I can actually hit you guys where YOU hurt the most, your vallets!!!!
PS: Oh and by the way all the lights in my grow room used to be the property of the city of Philadelphia, hey its war on drugs out there so I just used the enemy!!!Now that the city will have to replace those lights they might not affort to expand the police force!!!
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And another winner preserved for all time. I wanted to quote both of these posts so even after you realize how bad you sound and edit your posts that they will still be here for all to see.

You keep searching for an " I win button " that is not there.
 
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krime13

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I donate also doesnt make me a better person, charity is a" selfless act " , I see y6ou lack the understanding of that concept. PS What did you win?
 
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krime13

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shamegame said:
And another winner preserved for all time. I wanted to quote both of these posts so even after you realize how bad you sound and edit your posts that they will still be here for all to see.

You keep searching for an " I win button " that is not there.
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Hahahahahahaha! You pout this in your signature and there will be a streetlight shortage all over the country!I think its a brilliant idea!
 
shamegame

shamegame

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krime13 said:
Hahahahahahaha! You pout this in your signature and there will be a streetlight shortage all over the country!I think its a brilliant idea!
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My god what are you talking about.Anyway Yes , you are a loser of a human being.I also do not believe you are 18+. If you are then that's just double sad considering how you act.

Anyway I think I have proven my point as much as can be done on a forum.I have been able to frusterate you to the point of screaming obsceneties and swearing to keep your own family poor just to use tax dollars.

Mission accomplished I guess.I wash my hands of this thread.Don't bother replying I won't be reading it. But thanks for the laughs.
 
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krime13

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You missed my point completly!First of all how does that THEORETICAL added income will keep my family poor ? It will be just an addition to the income we already make.2) Yeah , unfortunatly I am way over 18, but something about your posts just brought out a punkrocker in me ,thanx, lol.Washing hands ha? King Leer rings a bell.I know you wont reply, but I hope you will read this...Thank you, and you are welkome for the laughs...peace.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Stealing street lights? Putting your kids through college at someone else's expense? I see no difference, Krime. Theft is theft. And YOU are a thief.

Vi
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Stealing street lights? Putting your kids through college at someone else's expense? I see no difference, Krime. Theft is theft. And YOU are a thief.

Vi
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What an arrogant assclown you are VI. My My My, you are so critical of everyone of the human persuasion. When you finally gave up that last hint of compassion, did you feel a twinge, or was it just like releasing a fart.
 
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krime13

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ViRedd said:
Stealing street lights? Putting your kids through college at someone else's expense? I see no difference, Krime. Theft is theft. And YOU are a thief.

Vi
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Correction, was a theif...However, I have never considered my self to be one. They (the city) are an active entety in the war on drugs, the war against my god given right to freely choose which camicals/substances enter my sistem...They forced me to be a soldier in this war and so thats what I did, I have captured my enemys assets to use them to further my goals...Need I remind you also that I am not the aggressor in this war...
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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medicineman said:
What an arrogant assclown you are VI. My My My, you are so critical of everyone of the human persuasion. When you finally gave up that last hint of compassion, did you feel a twinge, or was it just like releasing a fart.
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All name calling aside, Med ... the bottom line is, you are confusing theft with compassion and compassion with theft. Only your arrogance could cause you to think that taking from one in order to give to another is "compassionate." What makes your brand of "compassion" legal, Med? Is it the fact that a law is passed to make your theft legal? Does a law make theft moral, Med?

Krime ...

The fact that the government is opposed to your (and my) drug use still doesn't justify stealing the lights. Those lights are paid for by other citizens through their tax dollars. So, in essence, you are stealing money from the wallets of your neighbors.

Vi

 
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krime13

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No,Vi, I desaggree, the city takes MY money and than PAYS it to COPS whos job is to BUST me and make me a POW in this war...I am simply retaliating against my enemies... All of you bitch and moan how the govmt screws you over, it seems to me I am the only one who fought back and have the results to show for it...This war on ME by the people whos sallaryes I pay dayly is really starting to tick me off!!! The way I look at it, I just got MY money back!!! Wouldn't you like to do the same Vi?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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krime13 said:
No,Vi, I desaggree, the city takes MY money and than PAYS it to COPS whos job is to BUST me and make me a POW in this war...I am simply retaliating against my enemies... All of you bitch and moan how the govmt screws you over, it seems to me I am the only one who fought back and have the results to show for it...This war on ME by the people whos sallaryes I pay dayly is really starting to tick me off!!! The way I look at it, I just got MY money back!!! Wouldn't you like to do the same Vi?
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I feel your frustration, krime ... and I've certainly felt if myself. Most recently, I felt it during a tax audit. There I was, a hard working individual, sitting across the table from a guy who couldn't compete in my business for even a few minutes. And yet, he had all the power. He had the power to disallow any of my deductions that he wanted to ... and I couldn't do jack-shit about it. Here's a guy who could have ordered me to tax court ... and I couldn't do jack about that either. When he reassessed my taxes over my protest, and told me what I owed, I wanted to pop the arrogant bastard in the mouth ... but I didn't.

I didn't steal his computer either. ~lol~

I'll try to get them back during the next tax cycle. :bigjoint:

There's more than one way to protest The Man. Dump your extra seeds into the planter boxes at City Hall. :lol:

Vi

PS: By the way ... don't blame the cops. They are just doing their jobs. The ones to blame are your state legislators ... and the weasels in Congress.

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ViRedd

ViRedd

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No, no, no ... I didn't get caught "cheating" on my taxes. A little too creative maybe ... and maybe a little sloppy in my accounting, but I'd never cheat. Bad Karma, ya know.

And besides that, krime ... if you were to meet a mugger in the street, and he holds a gun to your ear and demands your money, and you only give him what's in your wallet, and you don't tell him about the wad of cash in your front pocket, have you really "cheated" the mugger, or have you just been creative? :blsmoke:

Vi
 
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krime13

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You know Vi, we are not that different, we cheat/steal/are creative because we are not content with the way the gov't runs things...Granted I might have been more content if my tax money went into healthcare that I can actually use or more afterschool programs for kids, More govt grants for the poor (buisness/education) ok, I would even settle for a low interest loan...Instead the majority of my money are beeng spent on the Iraqi war (which I did not aggree with since befoure it started), on the Drug war (in which I am a target) on even more prisions (we are the world leader u know)...I GUESS MY POINT IS: I dont mind beeng taxed by the goverment that represents me...NOW VI, if you HAD to be taxed the same amount as you are now by your IDEAL govmt, where would you see your money? (besides back in your wallet, I already knew that answer,LOL)
 
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