The Seed Collectors Thread

ALL of your points are valid. my purchase was based on 1. the said genetics and 2. i have looked for grow journals for cannaventure in general and people are always happy and usually find keepers. raskals fire og is on the todo list. im looking for a good sour diesel and these strains were being talked about. i want that sour diesel thats like lemon pine mixed with laying a patch in your car...basically the description for 303s biodiesel. you know of anybodys sour diesel like this?
 
silverhazefiend said:
Me calling him a hack was my opinion ...u dont have to agree its still my opinion ..

I gave u my reason for saying so ..can u give me a reason why u support him ? Or feel the need to buy his gear ?

I think anybody with more strains than pictures of actual parents are shady ..not one grow of ur own new strain is shady ..how do u kno what u are selling people ?

You don't find it funny that breeders who have been in the game for yrs have 12 strains and some one who started makin seeds 2011 has 15-20 strains ?
You don't find it funny when when someone who started making seeds in 2011 releases 10 new strains at a time ? You don't find it funny strains are advertised before there even made ? You don't find it funny that his end of the world drop was announced in November ..seeds made from December -February ..packaged for sale in March-April ..how can u test them ??? ..it's impossible ..don't u find it funny 10 of his strains are one offs ..aka super super limited edition ..and a reputable breeder has his parental stock for yrs ..all of the info is right in ur face ..if u rather buy strains based on fancy names or what sounds cool ..u might get fleeced ..

That' said numbers don't lie ..if u pump out 15-20 strains ..atleast 5 of them are bound to be good ..which 5 ..I couldn't tell u ..it's up to u to do ya research ..thus why I said I'm super tempted to buy the new cross using loompas headband CLONE ..something that is proven fire ..I can go on for days but I think my rant is already out of hand ..

And alot of people buy seeds with there heart and not brains ..all a breeder has to do nowadays is ..make a post directed to u or answer mandatory questions ..and people fall in love ..telling them how much they love said breeder ..and they think there the greatest and post a whole bunch of groupie shit ..while never having grown breeders wares ever ! ..a breeder shows u a little bit of attention nowadays people start to suck dixk (excuse my language) ..

One thing I rarely see is people tell the truth on these boards ..how many test grows have u ever seen where the test grower says the gear is wack ? It's rare ! Super rare ! ..people are so excited to be choosen to run some free beans they'll say anything to make the person look good ..it's funny how a strain can be super fire when a test grower grows it ..and super ass by the time of public release ..smh

FYI : u guys do kno that fire og bx is raskals strain right ? ..and someone bought a packs of seeds and made crosses with a male and are selling u those crosses ..I think if rather buy the strain from raskal myself ..if u were talking about raskal beans then disregard this ..

Ima catch alot of flack for this ..and I'm not gonna go back and fourth on the subject ..this will be my only time commenting on this subject ..so I wouldn't even bother aiming any questions towards me
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naw bro. one love bro. i got raskals fire og bx, but after a lot of research i saw that people were questioning the quality of the crosses made using this particular alien kush male. not overall quality per se, but the stability of the strain as far as fire og should be, and i mean stabile as far as plants being somewhat similar to eachother and a decent percentage pheno representation of the original fire og clone with said name...follow...
i see you are confused on the makings of the fire diesel strain

he used a clone only ecsd and crossed that to the backcross he made, not using raskals beans, but using the same clone only cali cut(female) and crossing it with (imo what should have been used by raskal)sfv ogkf2

so when i saw that cannaventure took the same fire og clone and made their backcross with the sfv ogk i had to get a pack, just to study the similarities and differences and see, maybe i can find a better true fire og bitch from a pack of cannaventure.

maybe not, but we will see.

the point i knew i was really starting to get this whole cannabis thing, is the same point i realized how little i knew about this whole cannabis thing...

see no questions...
 
greenghost420 said:
ALL of your points are valid. my purchase was based on 1. the said genetics and 2. i have looked for grow journals for cannaventure in general and people are always happy and usually find keepers. raskals fire og is on the todo list. im looking for a good sour diesel and these strains were being talked about. i want that sour diesel thats like lemon pine mixed with laying a patch in your car...basically the description for 303s biodiesel. you know of anybodys sour diesel like this?
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go with osd from cali connect imo if you want straight diesel. fresh great taste you can smoke it all day but for me its mornin meds...if you want more funky kerosine, get a headband cross all day. you will get diesel and kush leaning phenos. there are tons of headband crosses out there...
 
greenghost420 said:
ALL of your points are valid. my purchase was based on 1. the said genetics and 2. i have looked for grow journals for cannaventure in general and people are always happy and usually find keepers. raskals fire og is on the todo list. im looking for a good sour diesel and these strains were being talked about. i want that sour diesel thats like lemon pine mixed with laying a patch in your car...basically the description for 303s biodiesel. you know of anybodys sour diesel like this?
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Respect ..I didn't wanna come off as a asshole or anything ..
And I agree on the headband from RP ..I kno exactly what ur looking for and this question is always debated ..and I myself is still looking ..it hard to find that sour funk pure .. Did hear good things about 303 diesel tho ..and there hi country diesel I think but I can't say for sure
I think that cannaventure loompa x fire bx might be something u would be interested in also ..I NEVER heard anything bad about that loompa headband EVER
joeblow81 said:
naw bro. one love bro. i got raskals fire og bx, but after a lot of research i saw that people were questioning the quality of the crosses made using this particular alien kush male. not overall quality per se, but the stability of the strain as far as fire og should be, and i mean stabile as far as plants being somewhat similar to eachother and a decent percentage pheno representation of the original fire og clone with said name...follow...
i see you are confused on the makings of the fire diesel strain

he used a clone only ecsd and crossed that to the backcross he made, not using raskals beans, but using the same clone only cali cut(female) and crossing it with (imo what should have been used by raskal)sfv ogkf2

so when i saw that cannaventure took the same fire og clone and made their backcross with the sfv ogk i had to get a pack, just to study the similarities and differences and see, maybe i can find a better true fire og bitch from a pack of cannaventure.

maybe not, but we will see.

the point i knew i was really starting to get this whole cannabis thing, is the same point i realized how little i knew about this whole cannabis thing...

see no questions...
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Respect to u 2 ..and u are doing exactly what people should do ..research then get the first hand knowledge by growing out the beans and passing ur own judgment ..

I did read that the alien male was kinda dominant in that bx ..but I don't like to just run with everything I hear ..until I grew them ..

I like to grow bxs myself ..they leave some variation but I still have a higher chance of finding what I'm after ..see that's another one I would buy bc he used the CLONE something that's proven ..that's why in tempted to buy his loompa clone cross ..that should be fire ..a small update later down the line on your fire bxs would be appreciated ..
 
greenghost420 said:
if cannaventure was a hack wheres all the people complaining about them? theres always hate thread when someone has a problem. i want sour kush,goji og,and the fire bx...did u finish any fire og bx? i like to indulge in classic landraces also. kona gold was pretty good from what my uncle told me. either kona or maui wowie...
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It's wonderful, but can't find the seeds or clones anywhere.
 
greenghost420 said:
seriously comtemplating the diesel fire...i have the sin fire in the mail but diesel fire sounds too good to pass up...
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Anyone growing out his Diesel Fire should keep an eye out for herms. His Sour Double Kush too.

I have heard VERY good things about his Sin Diesel from a reputable source.





silverhazefiend said:
In all honesty I think cannaventure is a hack ..but thy loompa headband x fire bx ..is super tempting ..solely based off the fact it's the CLONE x fire ..if it was 2 seed parents I would pass ..

I don't even think testing or any type of grow report ..pics .. Anything was documented ..but what do I kno :/
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He pretty much is a hack. He really doesn't do any testing before selling the seeds. Especially not on any of the "limited edition" strains. He actually was on ICMag late last year looking for "testers". He sent everyone seeds that have already been released and sold. It turns out he's not really looking for testers just for people to document the grow so he can have more pics for advertising. The guy doesn't even flower out new clones before he's already announcing new crosses and their release date.

That Headband x Fire OG was never supposed to be released. He talked to Loompa or something and was not releasing it out of respect for Loompa working on the same cross. Pretty douchey to go back on your word but it's not like it's the first time CV has pulled some douchey shadiness.



greenghost420 said:
if cannaventure was a hack wheres all the people complaining about them? theres always hate thread when someone has a problem.
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There was a pretty big discussion about him in the real seed collectors thread the day that headbandxfireog dropped.




silverhazefiend said:
Me calling him a hack was my opinion ...u dont have to agree its still my opinion ..

I gave u my reason for saying so ..can u give me a reason why u support him ? Or feel the need to buy his gear ?

I think anybody with more strains than pictures of actual parents are shady ..not one grow of ur own new strain is shady ..how do u kno what u are selling people ?

You don't find it funny that breeders who have been in the game for yrs have 12 strains and some one who started makin seeds 2011 has 15-20 strains ?
You don't find it funny when when someone who started making seeds in 2011 releases 10 new strains at a time ? You don't find it funny strains are advertised before there even made ? You don't find it funny that his end of the world drop was announced in November ..seeds made from December -February ..packaged for sale in March-April ..how can u test them ??? ..it's impossible ..don't u find it funny 10 of his strains are one offs ..aka super super limited edition ..and a reputable breeder has his parental stock for yrs ..all of the info is right in ur face ..if u rather buy strains based on fancy names or what sounds cool ..u might get fleeced ..

That' said numbers don't lie ..if u pump out 15-20 strains ..atleast 5 of them are bound to be good ..which 5 ..I couldn't tell u ..it's up to u to do ya research ..thus why I said I'm super tempted to buy the new cross using loompas headband CLONE ..something that is proven fire ..I can go on for days but I think my rant is already out of hand ..

And alot of people buy seeds with there heart and not brains ..all a breeder has to do nowadays is ..make a post directed to u or answer mandatory questions ..and people fall in love ..telling them how much they love said breeder ..and they think there the greatest and post a whole bunch of groupie shit ..while never having grown breeders wares ever ! ..a breeder shows u a little bit of attention nowadays people start to suck dixk (excuse my language) ..

One thing I rarely see is people tell the truth on these boards ..how many test grows have u ever seen where the test grower says the gear is wack ? It's rare ! Super rare ! ..people are so excited to be choosen to run some free beans they'll say anything to make the person look good ..it's funny how a strain can be super fire when a test grower grows it ..and super ass by the time of public release ..smh

FYI : u guys do kno that fire og bx is raskals strain right ? ..and someone bought a packs of seeds and made crosses with a male and are selling u those crosses ..I think if rather buy the strain from raskal myself ..if u were talking about raskal beans then disregard this ..

Ima catch alot of flack for this ..and I'm not gonna go back and fourth on the subject ..this will be my only time commenting on this subject ..so I wouldn't even bother aiming any questions towards me
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^^^^^
Lots of truth in this post for sure
 
sounds like ur jelly...i think alot of breeders are more like him than you want to let yourself believe...

maybe his crosses arent tried and tested, but the proof is in the pudding. i respect him a whole lot more than greenhouse, barneys, dna/rp and many others...just cuz they are big and can do it right, doesnt mean they are.

anyone can do it, but why is he on attitude and so many other places if he is such a hack??

look what happened to riot.
 
joeblow81 said:
sounds like ur jelly...i think alot of breeders are more like him than you want to let yourself believe...

maybe his crosses arent tried and tested, but the proof is in the pudding. i respect him a whole lot more than greenhouse, barneys, dna/rp and many others...just cuz they are big and can do it right, doesnt mean they are.

anyone can do it, but why is he on attitude and so many other places if he is such a hack??

look what happened to riot.
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Jealous? No I just do my homework on breeders and have done a lot on him. I've grown his gear and have several of his strains in the vault. Hell, I have a cookie wreck grow and journal going right now and I just chopped a sour double kush herm on sunday.


Jazz Berry Jam
Mothers Mix
Diesel Fire
Sour Double Kush
Chem D BX3
Chem4 x ChemD
Cookie Wreck
^^^those are the CVS strains in my vault. And the only one I haven't grown out yet is the Chem4xChemD cross.

Out of those seeds I only paid for the JBJ (and mothers mix freebies). The rest were given to me by CV. Why would I be jealous of a guy that gives me free beans? Dude gives me free shit wouldn't most people be running around praising the guy? Fuck that, I've grown his seeds and am basing things off of my experience.



Because he's on attitude he's not a hack? GTFO here with that bullshit. They pretty much will sell anyone and everyone on that site. They fucking sell doggies nuts bullshit on that site, they'll sell anything.

If he's so fucking legit why has CV (or better yet, Kanye) been banned and kicked out of forums and seed sites? I'm guessing you follow CV on a few sites and assume you've done your homework but he's on at least six different forums and has been booted from others for being a shady douche. It seems like the guy likes to burn bridges or something.


And why are you bringing up riot? Are you trying to claim he's a hack and that's why he's not on seed vendor sites anymore? His being booted from seed vendor sites has to do with back door politics and nothing with his genetics.
 
Ganja.Farmer said:
Jealous? No I just do my homework on breeders and have done a lot on him. I've grown his gear and have several of his strains in the vault. Hell, I have a cookie wreck grow and journal going right now and I just chopped a sour double kush herm on sunday.


Jazz Berry Jam
Mothers Mix
Diesel Fire
Sour Double Kush
Chem D BX3
Chem4 x ChemD
Cookie Wreck
^^^those are the CVS strains in my vault. And the only one I haven't grown out yet is the Chem4xChemD cross.

Out of those seeds I only paid for the JBJ (and mothers mix freebies). The rest were given to me by CV. Why would I be jealous of a guy that gives me free beans? Dude gives me free shit wouldn't most people be running around praising the guy? Fuck that, I've grown his seeds and am basing things off of my experience.



Because he's on attitude he's not a hack? GTFO here with that bullshit. They pretty much will sell anyone and everyone on that site. They fucking sell doggies nuts bullshit on that site, they'll sell anything.

If he's so fucking legit why has CV (or better yet, Kanye) been banned and kicked out of forums and seed sites? I'm guessing you follow CV on a few sites and assume you've done your homework but he's on at least six different forums and has been booted from others for being a shady douche. It seems like the guy likes to burn bridges or something.


And why are you bringing up riot? Are you trying to claim he's a hack and that's why he's not on seed vendor sites anymore? His being booted from seed vendor sites has to do with back door politics and nothing with his genetics.
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my understanding was riot burned alot of bridges, had alot of unstable genetics and was more about marketing than anything...which is the root of what we are talking about.

the world has changed and there is an easy way to sell your product if you dont have a shitload of capitol or stock. the interwebz...lmao

grow journals are the best and cheapest ways to market your product without even having to grow it. it is really genius. and there is nothing wrong with it. my point was, there are most likely thousands of breeders that try to get their seeds on the tude, i know of 3 just in my small corner of michigan...he got on there...for some reason...i dont claim to know the reason or anything, but its saying something that he is one of the 50 or so breeders in the world that occupy a spot in the biggest seedbank in the world. right??

im sure he is just a trailer livin hack with no fronts...but i still praise his work and wish i was livin his life. lmao.

i grew 1/2 dozen test runs for greenthumb, i thought his stuff was a bit on the weak side, but i never said so...then i grew out many other strains by "more reputable" breeders... man i wish i still had my ghost og and my trainwreck from greenthumb...never had better of either since....

so hindsight and patience with the tongue is not always a bad thing either...i mean i realized i was getting good at this cannabis thing, when i realized i knew next to nothing about this cannabis thing.
 
joeblow81 said:
my understanding was riot burned alot of bridges, had alot of unstable genetics and was more about marketing than anything...which is the root of what we are talking about.

the world has changed and there is an easy way to sell your product if you dont have a shitload of capitol or stock. the interwebz...lmao

grow journals are the best and cheapest ways to market your product without even having to grow it. it is really genius. and there is nothing wrong with it. my point was, there are most likely thousands of breeders that try to get their seeds on the tude, i know of 3 just in my small corner of michigan...he got on there...for some reason...i dont claim to know the reason or anything, but its saying something that he is one of the 50 or so breeders in the world that occupy a spot in the biggest seedbank in the world. right??

im sure he is just a trailer livin hack with no fronts...but i still praise his work and wish i was livin his life. lmao.

i grew 1/2 dozen test runs for greenthumb, i thought his stuff was a bit on the weak side, but i never said so...then i grew out many other strains by "more reputable" breeders... man i wish i still had my ghost og and my trainwreck from greenthumb...never had better of either since....

so hindsight and patience with the tongue is not always a bad thing either...i mean i realized i was getting good at this cannabis thing, when i realized i knew next to nothing about this cannabis thing.
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Riot burnt one bridge and was booted from the tude because of blackmail. Take him down or they were walking. The Attitude chose to stick with the company that sold more seeds.

The growers out there stay away from Riot seeds because he is a hack. But the attitude would be happily selling his seeds to this day if they were never given that ultimatum.


I'm done discussing CVS strains. You can enjoy your birdseed.
 
There are a bunch of cv gear that have a huge ? On them! Then theres some that the parents came from
rep breeders so its not all bad. Just some and even those you could find a winner!
 
wyteberrywidow said:
I want to grab the cherry puff. That one sounds and looks good to me... the banana puff is another one ill grab but if I had to choose 1 it willl be the cherry puff.

About the g13 havnt really triad many crosses with it to say if I like it or not so cat really comment on it.
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Grab them both , I'm going to , shit does sound tasty:)
 
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