The Seed Collectors Thread

Just got back form the store. Always spend too much time and loot there! But twice as much of everything that I needed. More is always better. Was talkin to my buddy that works there for a grip. He's a big organic soil guy like me. But he says he doing a test run with these products and is blown away with the way his plants look. figured I'd share the info.

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cx-hydroponics-nutrients-c-81_1044.html
I heard they stuff was good too but kinda expensive. Im mad they are not going to carry soul synthetics at that site any more. It was like half price there.
 

karmas a bitch

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I briefly glanced at the prices. They didn't seem to out of control to me. Plus the dosages were really low. Most of the additives are like 3-4 ml to a gallon. I forget what the main parts were

Pretty much everything is half price at that store!

I went into another shop like two weeks ago. They had magnum hoods for 279! Lol. I paid 160 at plh. And the funny thing is these stores are like maybe 40 min apart. Plh is always dead as shit inside. This other store was super busy. The owner came up and was like can I help u? I started laughing. Was like hell no I'm outta here

I think that cx took the place of where the soul synthetics was on the shelf too. Haven't really been payin much attention to bottle nutes since I quit using em. But my friend told me to look so I did. I'm still reading all their shit on their web page.
 

jkahndb0

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I briefly glanced at the prices. They didn't seem to out of control to me. Plus the dosages were really low. Most of the additives are like 3-4 ml to a gallon. I forget what the main parts were

Pretty much everything is half price at that store!

I went into another shop like two weeks ago. They had magnum hoods for 279! Lol. I paid 160 at plh. And the funny thing is these stores are like maybe 40 min apart. Plh is always dead as shit inside. This other store was super busy. The owner came up and was like can I help u? I started laughing. Was like hell no I'm outta here

I think that cx took the place of where the soul synthetics was on the shelf too. Haven't really been payin much attention to bottle nutes since I quit using em. But my friend told me to look so I did. I'm still reading all their shit on their web page.
The fact that it specifically says a mixture of chemical and organic nutes..
Should put you off right there....
Think thats why they ccall it "Fusion"..
There fusing Chemical and organic nutes into a new kind of Nutrient.. Is how there putting it....
 

apollopimp

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Alien Fire F2's picked right of the Plant....
I didnt sort them at all, not bad...LoL
Think ill chop this bitch down in a few days....
Might have like a thousand of these..LoL
lookin nice there jkahn

and those black rose crosses posted above are lookin real nice
 

jkahndb0

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Nice!!!!! A thousand u say? You should send some in as feeebies;)
To where sbay.. Cause i dont think DHS would appreciate them being at CZ...LoL

Ill have a few hundred+ Bandanna Indy dom x Alien Fire, and Bandanna Sativa dom x Alien Fire... Havent decided whether to just mix em yet....
then of course all the fems that i hit... ww (limited), nebula(very limited), and el alquimista (abundant)... i wasn't gonna give them out but in the request a freebie thread everyone is askin for freebies made with FEM Mothers...
Guess noone cares...
 

at0ms0ft

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I am looking for some testers for my new cross it is an F1 so need help looking for phenos or just some general 411 on how they grow. It is (S.A.G.E x AK47) x Jedi OG Kush I have been calling it E-11. The mother is very stinky and lots of resin and the male was just a beast ! Very stinky and I was hoping it was a female all through veg lol. PM me if interested.
 

karmas a bitch

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The fact that it specifically says a mixture of chemical and organic nutes..
Should put you off right there....
Think thats why they ccall it "Fusion"..
There fusing Chemical and organic nutes into a new kind of Nutrient.. Is how there putting it....
Yeah not saying that I'll run it. But it does sound good. Plus my buddy says its crushing his organic soil run. So that has me curious. I've ran advance nutrients before. It impressed me. All the way up to the puff. Plants did great yielded great. Potency was on. But it was lacking in the flavor and yield side. Plus I really don't see myself ever mixing up bottle nutes again.

I really want to try revs TLO and Subcools supersoil. Way more likely I run those than the cx.

But I still think this stuff sounds pretty damn good.
 

cerberus

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I went into another shop like two weeks ago. They had magnum hoods for 279! Lol. I paid 160 at plh. And the funny thing is these stores are like maybe 40 min apart. Plh is always dead as shit inside. This other store was super busy. The owner came up and was like can I help u? I started laughing. Was like hell no I'm outta here
i used to run a couple of those ocho's.. i hate them. i traded them straight up for crappy vertzons/parabolic open air hoods and things got 10x better.. kcuf esoht seciep fo tihs <-

wake and bake with some white russian super melt bubble and everything goes sdrawkcab

I really want to try revs TLO and Subcools supersoil. Way more likely I run those than the cx.
INHO
dont do subs super soil, its junk. i made some up, cured it did my ting yield and shit was OK, so i took some a had left and brought it to two nurseries around me and had them do a soil test, give me its reading (how hot it is) both nursery directors came out to talk to me and one was laughing.. later i took the reads to a friend that has her master gardeners cert and she laughed and said the bet thing i could do was cut this 50/50 with spagnum or coco and feed with aact's.. i have gone now to my own recepie and its still way in the being changed regularly stage..
super soil is just loaded with everything some one could think of but not in any plant science fashion.. me and sub went round and round on this maybe a year+ ago.. your grow, your time, your money, my suggestion.. :/
 

karmas a bitch

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Cerberus thanks for the heads up. Still might try it. But I would try revs TLO first anyway.

Wasnt someone just crying about how we don't share info on anything in here? So far heres my germ rate after 36 hrs
bodhi blowfishXappalchia 7/11
gage green burgundy 11/11. These things look pissed off. I'm pretty sure I heard one of em call my mom a bitch
Surefire seeds firestarter 3/3. Come on fire station pheno!
dukeberry 2/3
sour dXsnowdawg. I realized last night I forgot to germ these. So I started em late last night. D'oh!
 
I briefly glanced at the prices. They didn't seem to out of control to me. Plus the dosages were really low. Most of the additives are like 3-4 ml to a gallon. I forget what the main parts were

Pretty much everything is half price at that store!

I went into another shop like two weeks ago. They had magnum hoods for 279! Lol. I paid 160 at plh. And the funny thing is these stores are like maybe 40 min apart. Plh is always dead as shit inside. This other store was super busy. The owner came up and was like can I help u? I started laughing. Was like hell no I'm outta here

I think that cx took the place of where the soul synthetics was on the shelf too. Haven't really been payin much attention to bottle nutes since I quit using em. But my friend told me to look so I did. I'm still reading all their shit on their web page.
I didnt look at the doseages. I just noticed a gallon size of the whole line was $800. I can get soul for about $450 with a couple botanicare bottles thrown in for good measure. I seen a couple grows on youtube with the cx i believe that were good.
 

SketchyGrower

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Stuck at a family Bday event... Looks like I'll be creeping around this site :-/ got a 5gallon bucket full of sugar leaf that wants to be turned into bubble at home...

Cerberus your not the 1st person I have heard Not dig on super soil.. Makes one curious about it.

Hey KAB, what is TLO?
 
Stuck at a family Bday event... Looks like I'll be creeping around this site :-/ got a 5gallon bucket full of sugar leaf that wants to be turned into bubble at home...

Cerberus your not the 1st person I have heard Not dig on super soil.. Makes one curious about it.

Hey KAB, what is TLO?
Its another supersoil recipe from the rev
 
@sketchy grower

TLO Mix 2011 Supernatural Version 2.1 BY: THE REV

Master Soil-Mix Recipe
BASE MIX
2 gal Quality Organic Soil-mix (or good organic recycled soil mix)
2 gal Thoroughly Rinsed Coir (coconut fiber)
2 gal Perlite (small nugget size)
2 gal Earthworm Castings (fresh earthworm castings, and/or fresh compost works too)
AMENDMENTS
1½ cup Grow or Bloom ‘Pure’ by Organicare (or 1 cup 5-5-5)
½ cup Greensand
¾ cup Ground Oyster Shells (1 cup if no crushed oyster shells)
1½ cup Crushed Oyster Shells (optional)
½ cup Dolomite Lime (powdered)
1 cup Prilled (pelletized) Fast Acting Dolomite Lime
¼ cup Blood Meal (and/or High N Bird/Bat Guano 12-8-2 N-P-K if flowering 1/8 cup of each)
¼ cup (heaping) Feather Meal
1 cup un-steamed (granular) Bone Meal (like Whitney Farms brand)
½ cup Bulb Food (3-8-8 as one good N-P-K example)
¼ cup Soft Rock Phosphate (powdered)
½ cup (heaping) Gypsum (powdered)
½ cup Kelp Meal
4 cups (heaping) Composted Steer Manure (this inoculates your mix with specialized bacteria and primo organic matter)
½ cup Azomite granular (add an additional ¼ cup greensand if no Azomite)
1 cup Humic Acid Ore granular (like from Down to Earth brand)
1 cup Alfalfa Meal (or 2 cups pellets – make sure pellets are all organic no additives)
½ cup Rock Phosphate Granular (optional)
1 cup (heaping) organic rice (important for the good fungi in this soil-mix)
This mix should be moistened (Do not get it soaking wet!) with chlorinefree water, and turned over every few days, for about 15 days before use. This is what I call “cooking” your soil, and letting it get pretty dry before use, is fine. The nutrients don’t evaporate or anything, so no worries there, per storage over time. If this soil-mix turns out to be too hot (powerful) for some reason, just cut it with good bagged organic soil until you get the strength your environment and genetics demands.
I find cooking mine for about 30 days works the best for me, but I have often used it sooner, like at 2 weeks, and just remember the warmer it is outside wherever the soil-mix is at, the faster the cooking processes will happen. You can use a pH meter (soil pH meter) to tell when it is done cooking too. I wait until it is in the 6.2 – 6.8 range, which normally takes about 2 weeks, because as it kicks off cooking the pH will often be very low, like around 4.9 isn’t uncommon when it first starts to cook.
ONLY FOR USE WITH PURE WATER SOURCES, LIKE REVERSE OSMOSIS, RAIN, OR DISTILLED WATER. DO NOT USE WELL, TAP, OR SPRING WATER WITH THIS RECIPE.
This soil-mix is meant to be used along with the spike and layer TLO dynamic, and while it is quite capable of standing alone, it works supernaturally when you add the spike and layering dynamics.
Killer Spike Blends...
Spike #1 vegg
½ cup blood
½ cup steamed bone meal
½ cup high N bat/bird guano
½ cup feather meal
½ cup kelp meal
1 tablespoon ground oyster shell (optional)
Spike #2 all-purpose/flowering
½ cup feather meal
¼ cup bulb food 3-8-8
¼ cup soft rock phosphate
½ cup steamed bone meal
½ cup high P bat/bird guano
½ cup kelp meal
1 tablespoon ground oyster shell (optional)
- Revski
 

jkahndb0

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Stuck at a family Bday event... Looks like I'll be creeping around this site :-/ got a 5gallon bucket full of sugar leaf that wants to be turned into bubble at home...

Cerberus your not the 1st person I have heard Not dig on super soil.. Makes one curious about it.

Hey KAB, what is TLO?
Think of it like Super Soil to the EXTEME....
A lot more thought went into it......
The REV is part of KOS so you know right there the debate is over..
Im just lazy so i go with the basic recipe....
 
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