The Seed Collectors Thread

[OGEvilgenius]

i dont know why koma has such a good rep dudes kind of an idiot his little organic schedule makes me laugh i understand supplementing with liquid organics but hes using all kind of shit that i guarantee isnt fully organic like advanced shit cmon bro if you want to act like your the shit at organics at least figure out a soil mix lol or go biocanna at least its omri!! this whole using advanced and thinking your organic is a joke tho lol!

OMRI has been caught taking money to certify non organic products. It is not a good label to hang your hat on. Granted I probably would never use Advanced anything unless what they had was cheaper than the competitions near identical product - which usually it is not. Certainly would never use their base ferts as they lack micronutrients and have been found to have other shit in them that is not supposed to be there (heavy metals).

 

[Bucket head]

Dynamite next gen

during this past harvest; I grew out some white widow X dynamite from hillbilly beanery. Looked just like those plants there! Not bad, but as you said, not really what i need in terms of flavor.

 

[Pipe Dream]

Don't know of any urkle s1's so you're prob gonna have to get a cross I'd look into querkle

I'm sure there is someone who makes Urkle seeds these days but whether they can be obtained through the web is unknown to me. Top Shelf used to have the S1s but he had a lot of complaints of low germ rates and other issues I don't think he's even breeding commercially anymore, I know he isn't making the urkle seeds anymore though. I recently finished one and it was alright, nothing to write home about and low yield without an extended veg time. One time I had some Urkle x ATF that was out of this world. That is why I started hunting down urkle but after growing these, smoking some Deep Purple a few weeks back, and reading so many positive reviews of querkle, I think that perhaps the magic is in hybrids of it. I have grown a few querkles but they were male, but the growth seemed much faster and much better structure. The Urkle x ATF and the Urkle S1s both had male flowers on it. I believe that the strain and purps in general have a tendency towards growing bananas. You'll probably have these issues with the clone only and in the selfed seeds. So to answer your question, I got some Urkle seeds, kinda. IMHO, I would check out querkle or something different like purple peyote or ECPD. The purps will always win the BOTM competitions but rarely ever are even worth it I've found. If I could have gotten a cut of that Urkle x ATF a few years ago, I probably would still fill my garden with it, hermi flowers and all so I'm not hating or telling you it's a lost cause I'm just sharing my experiences.

 

[Pipe Dream]

& mr bender is dead on point.

im not talking about rooting clones. with this i've no drama.
we SOG & we root. trust this.

im talking about hardeing them off while not wilting to death in prep for HIDs (in preveg).

Once the plants have roots, they don't need the humidity anymore so the only thing I can think is that they aren't getting adequate water. If that isn't the case, than probably your light is too powerful for them. I generally go from CFL to 250 MH to 400MH but have gone straight from CFL to 400 with no issues. If your using powerful lights, try and keep them farther away from the lights until they prove they won't wilt and have some new growth. Trimming the fan leaves might be part of your problem too, they cannot deal with intense light because they don't have enough leaves and also the root system and low nutrient solution aren't suitable for intense light yet. I'm only speculating of course. I would start them out just like a seedling, CFL or far from an HID to keep them cool and allow the roots to expand. Sometimes less is more.

 

[NightbirdX]

wish i could find purple urkle seeds, whats the closests prob grandaddy s1 or does anyone know where to get PU seeds?

Did you say purple?



Need to get her into seed form. Need to find a stud male. Thinking of finding a good Afghani. I have a 10 pack of seedsman original afghani #1 and skunk #1. Haven't heard too much about seedsman gear. Anyone have any good thoughts?

I was thinking of trying to get some Ortega seeds from MNS. its an NL#1 x NL#5, basically a pure afghanica, from what the description reads. I hear MNS is the place to go for good stable true breeding genes. Anyone have any thoughts?

Though!!! I do have that Aliendawg and Raskal's OG going, even the Fugu Kush. If I found a good Aliendawg, R.OG, or Blowfish Dom male, that would be some crazy stuff to cross my NYC and GDP with.

 

[hellraizer30]

Well fellas i took down my gage green testers
had to to it sooner than i wanted due to a herm issue
the mendo was off the chain! And purple as f-ck.
force og turned out great but the only one i wanted to keep turned out a hermie.
chemdawg all four of them at 52 day hermied

All in all its above the norm killer smoke and cant wait to burn some.
the hermie issue doesnt sway me from gage they got great things going
and thats why we test these crosses. I have a full line up of pics to be posted
at the normal spots!

 

[TheLastWood]

That's too bad hell! At least you got a new mendo mom! Is mendo supremp the mendo f2?

 

[headbender]

OMRI has been caught taking money to certify non organic products. It is not a good label to hang your hat on. Granted I probably would never use Advanced anything unless what they had was cheaper than the competitions near identical product - which usually it is not. Certainly would never use their base ferts as they lack micronutrients and have been found to have other shit in them that is not supposed to be there (heavy metals).

lol wheres the proof i myself know alot of products that have been dropped by omri so why wouldnt they pay them off lol bio bizz being one of them! and i dont really care about an omri cert but advanced lol are you kidding theyve been caught how many times lying about whats in their products shit go look at integral hydro youll never touch advanced again lol my real point was feed the soil but since he started with chems he usess the same methods, simply mixing a good soil could get him pretty close to the end of flower maybe a little supplementation towards the end, but relying on bottled nutes completely and staying actually organic cant really happen!

 

[headbender]

no mendo supremo is mendo montage x grande supremo

 

[headbender]

Once the plants have roots, they don't need the humidity anymore so the only thing I can think is that they aren't getting adequate water. If that isn't the case, than probably your light is too powerful for them. I generally go from CFL to 250 MH to 400MH but have gone straight from CFL to 400 with no issues. If your using powerful lights, try and keep them farther away from the lights until they prove they won't wilt and have some new growth. Trimming the fan leaves might be part of your problem too, they cannot deal with intense light because they don't have enough leaves and also the root system and low nutrient solution aren't suitable for intense light yet. I'm only speculating of course. I would start them out just like a seedling, CFL or far from an HID to keep them cool and allow the roots to expand. Sometimes less is more.

this is not true at all if you clone in a dome your plants will be acclimated too high humidity levels in a low humidity environment removal of the dome will cause wilting and curling of leaves in minutes. they need to be hardened like plants going outdoors but with increasing intervals of dome off time this last round a buddy of mine planted all his rooted clones in smart pots and went to bed next morning half were completely wilted and dead he called me freaking saying he needed cuts, when i got there his humidity in the room was 29% some of the clones handled it but others didnt, rooted or not after weeks in a humid dome its really tough on plants to receive lower humdidty levels!

oh and prof p is coming out with a BLUE MAGOO BX called blue heron FUCK YA!!!

 

[hellraizer30]

From what i read the mendo supremo will carry alot of the mendo montage traits so purp is a for sure thing!
the chem seems very hermie prone, but the smoke looks kill!

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

Ya excited about the blue heron. Already got the Caramel Kandy Kush and Carmel Cough. Want to get the MT Huckel Berry to. Did read all about what PP was saying about CV Blue Magoo my buddy has been trying to veg. His CV BMxJBJ and it's so slow it's crazy. And PP said there was Blue Goo going around that won't veg. So that sucks. But ya BM even B~Man was saying how he loved it. I bet grabs a pack and starts some Magic.

Cloning is my thing. I used to have to keep up with 200 a week. Sold them for a living for several years. Now I just do 36 a week. I can root a Popsicle stick. If I start seeing a problem hardening off maybe environment maybe sensitive strain. I root in a dome that I actually tape shut. So the humidity is way high u take them
Out of there to 50% or less RH ur
Going to have a problem LOL.
I first pick my Best rooted (most strains 10-14 days)(98% always by 21) out of the dome and place them in another flat with the 72 slotted insert which I use in all my flats. And put a dome on and dnt tape it for about 24 hours make sure ur medium doesn't dry out. Then I transplant and make sure u dnt have any fans or air movement on them and u should be good. But another thing I've done and I have had to do With my GSxOG cause they are sensitive to EVERYthing is I transplant them and place them
In a flat and put the dome on for a few days and let the roots take
Over and then they are good. Not one problem. No air Movement is key even a ceiling fan will mess them up. I know this thread ain't about all this sorry. Just thought I would chim in.

 

[headbender]

what chem cross were you testing hell?

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

TSS I have Exudus Chez I got for free LastWood and I bought Sour Apple. But I won a Auction over @Zon for the Sour Banana 5pk $200. I tried one at a time. I scuffed soaked. Scraped the seeds with my nail. Talk about hard. #2 cracked but the tap root popped out green. #1&#3 nothin. The seeds looked ok. I got #4 to pop though I soaked that bitch 5 days LOL. Till it cracked, figured it drown but no stood to atention but it's a bit of a mutant. LOL cant win with the fuckin things. It's on it's 3 rd node. I have one bean left. Idk going to see what happens sucks $200 bucks. All the PU seeds not cracking was not brought to my attention until after lol. Live and learn. 3P has been MIA ever sense. So Figured I would drop this before someone buys any PU S1's soak the hell out of those bitches cause they are hard maybe from the way Fems are made IDK. But I wouldn't spend ur hard earned money on them. Just FYI

T~P

 

[SketchyGrower]

Did you say purple?

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Need to get her into seed form. Need to find a stud male. Thinking of finding a good Afghani. I have a 10 pack of seedsman original afghani #1 and skunk #1. Haven't heard too much about seedsman gear. Anyone have any good thoughts?

I was thinking of trying to get some Ortega seeds from MNS. its an NL#1 x NL#5, basically a pure afghanica, from what the description reads. I hear MNS is the place to go for good stable true breeding genes. Anyone have any thoughts?

Though!!! I do have that Aliendawg and Raskal's OG going, even the Fugu Kush. If I found a good Aliendawg, R.OG, or Blowfish Dom male, that would be some crazy stuff to cross my NYC and GDP with.

I got a pack of Ortega my local friend

 

[Pipe Dream]

this is not true at all if you clone in a dome your plants will be acclimated too high humidity levels in a low humidity environment removal of the dome will cause wilting and curling of leaves in minutes. they need to be hardened like plants going outdoors but with increasing intervals of dome off time this last round a buddy of mine planted all his rooted clones in smart pots and went to bed next morning half were completely wilted and dead he called me freaking saying he needed cuts, when i got there his humidity in the room was 29% some of the clones handled it but others didnt, rooted or not after weeks in a humid dome its really tough on plants to receive lower humdidty levels!

oh and prof p is coming out with a BLUE MAGOO BX called blue heron FUCK YA!!!

Like you said, if the plants are going to wilt, they will do so almost immediately. I never recommended taking the dome off and than going to bed, but with low light levels and a little attention they should be able to adapt quickly. I can remove the dome after only a couple days and my cuts don't wilt, even without roots, and I don't live in a humid area. Gradually increasing airflow inside the dome or exposing them for a couple hours at a time and misting or replacing the dome when/if they wilt should do the trick. Now that you mention it though, I do remember getting a clone a couple years ago that wilted on me and had roots. All I did was put a dome over it and put it under a cfl for a couple days and it was good to go. There was not a ton of humidity-no water condensation on the dome or standing water in the tray, but it was just enough from keeping it from wilting.

 

[gudkarma]

exodus cheese x c99 beans have been found.

seems like these seeds dont want to leave a certain town on the right (east) coast.

a trek down I95 seems almost inevitable.

with mad integrity as ususal ...& if you need to trade pork chop recipes with a stand up guy ...jkahn always uber reliable.

 

[JJFOURTWENTY]

when i got there his humidity in the room was 29% some of the clones handled it but others didnt, rooted or not after weeks in a humid dome its really tough on plants to receive lower humdidty levels!

That's your problem - 29% RH. You must live high up in the mountains or in a desert to see it that low.

 

[JJFOURTWENTY]

I was thinking of trying to get some Ortega seeds from MNS.

Believe Attitude has one pack left of Ortega and Medicine Man in stock atm...

edit: I'm wrong. they've got a handful of each.

 

[headbender]

That's your problem - 29% RH. You must live high up in the mountains or in a desert to see it that low.

lol i know thats why i was providing an example haha