The Time Has Come, You Got Balls,Or are you a pussy, cuz Im callin you out!

i think the point is getting lost here. This is not a debate on weather or not what many people think dragons plan is, because many people already have the wrong idea as to what it is, but instead this was an opprotunity to see another idea that may be different from our own and untilize it in a way that is outside the box. Of coarse not everyone is going to agree on "the proper methods" to get weed legalized, but i comend the dragon for not being lemited to the methods that have gotten us no where in the past. For example, i think johnny mentioned useing arguments in the proper field in order to sway the minds of those with more power. This method however requires that those hearing the argument have never heard them before. HOWEVER this is not the case, as most people have heard all the same arguments over and over. What dragon is referring too is getting involved instead of just sitting around and doing nothing but complainsing that the government has over stepped their bounds by makeing a plant that the majority of our county (U.S.) and most of the world uses for so much more than just getting high, and throwing those who are growing or transporting a God given plant (that grows wild on more than 80% of the globe) in jail, into an over populated underfunded understaffed institution with violent offenders knowing that smokers (unless other substances are introduced) rarely get violent in any way.

The fact remains: what has already been done isnt working so it up to us,the ones being effected, to do something about it. Yes you can lobby till your blue in the face, but as the past will tell you lobbying is only so effective. Taking to the street and educating the people, squashing the rumors that lead to its being made illeagal in the first place. Alchohol was made illeagal and in 10 years was made leagal again. Tobacco is leagal to smoke for recreational purposes and yet clinical studys will show if you smoke tobacco you will get cancer(its not a question anymore)and still the plant that the first paper was made out of and the first pare of jeans (both made of hemp[and you can make ethenol out of it]) the plant that has medicinal properties for over 250 different physical and psycological ailments is still made illeagal. Niether alchohol or tobacco and make ANY of those claims.

Side note:dragon never saind anything about anarchy, in fact dragons ideas would stop the anarchy currently going on. "the war on drugs" was mentioned and THAT is anarchy when the government can go anywhere and do anything that is anarchy. however the people are fed up and i my self (and im sure dragon agrees) am fed up with all of the people that support the leagalization of weed and are doing nothing politicaly or otherwise to change it. Dragon was calling all of us to action, calling us to stand up and be smart.

the government cant arrest you for protesting they cant arrest you for gathering to protest cant arrest you for wanting to protest. as it is they CAN arrest you for having the plant growing the plant selling the plant and even if leagalized on a medicinal level some of that will not change.... some of that will not change without actions from people like us communities that are willing to come together in the name of something good and not being worried about "if they tax it ill go broke" if tobacco can take blow after blow from tax hikes and bad ploblicity... then i will leave the rest to your own imagination... tobacco is one of the oldest recognized cash crops, pot is the oldest unrecognized... now lets get it recognize and see what happen

Very well put, thank you. What does everyone else think though??? I am having a MASSES meeting this weekend, and I am pretty sure we will be addressing this issue, alongside the Constitution and religious doctrines, and the regular BS.... .....
I have already gotten about 30 people to agree to do it, and about 20 that said that enough other people were doing it, then they would too. The first thirty agreed to try to get 10 more people involved by next week, and to try their best to have at least 3-5 of the people they get to go out and recruit more. Every one is very enthusiastic about the idea (even the ones that only will go out if the see every one else doing it too), and feel that as long as "I" (as in me, theloadeddragon) stick to it, it will happen and be at the very least marginally more successful than most legalization campaigns.
I plan to set up a Website for this One Day Movement, and included in this website will be an online registration process that will allow people to have the options to say: 1.) yeah, I am completely on the level, and commit myself to getting as many people involved as I can
2.) Yeah, I am on board, but I am not sure how many people I can bring with me...
3.) Yeah, I am on board, but only if X many other people say they are on board too.
4.) Maybe, I want to learn more about this first...

I am trying to figure out a way to keep it somewhat anonymous, and keep people from resubmitting answers over and over again to boost numbers. That is a bit more technical than my understanding of web design....

So, anyone that is really good with web design please hit me up so we can get this website up and running!

im too fat for hunger strikes playa'

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then i am sure there is something else you can do. It is understood that people have to eat, but lets say on that day you don't spend any money at all on food. that alone would help. the impact of these actions come not in the action itself (anorexics starve themselves all the time and its not good) but the number of people doing the action.

Say for example everyone that owned an SUV returned it on a certain day... the auto companies would have to see that and do something about it. same thing applies if we all get together and do SOMETHING and something DIFFERENT, because apparently what we have done in the past wasnt effective enough, the government is just going to continue to keep a bad face on a beautiful plant

then i am sure there is something else you can do. It is understood that people have to eat, but lets say on that day you don't spend any money at all on food. that alone would help. the impact of these actions come not in the action itself (anorexics starve themselves all the time and its not good) but the number of people doing the action.

Say for example everyone that owned an SUV returned it on a certain day... the auto companies would have to see that and do something about it. same thing applies if we all get together and do SOMETHING and something DIFFERENT, because apparently what we have done in the past wasn't effective enough, the government is just going to continue to keep a bad face on a beautiful plant.

Huh?

I mean really. Are you trying to persuade me to believe that the legalization of cannabis is worth more than supporting my family? You people need to seriously wake up. Protesting is one thing, but giving up necessities to do so is borderline fanatical.
One poster from the UK said if he were to submit a letter to his employer stating that he was going on "sabbatical" until marijuana was legalized he would be replaced before th end of day and you said "no bro...not here...not in the GOOD OLE U.S. OF A" Which is bull crap, and you know it. So here you have a bunch of malnutritioned, Un-employed stoners who gave up everything for marijuana. Funny how stereotypes echo the truth? Johnnyorganic was right. We need education. We need a cause of death for the propaganda. We need to show the masses that we are in fact responsible, educated, morally and physically strong...maybe a bit reckless at times but good wholesome people nonetheless. The last thing the pro-marijuana movement needs is a fanatical approach.

LOL.... that is the method that is being recommended! Just with a different approach that, if you refer to those posts, you obviously don't understand and are misinterpreting.

theloadeddragon said:

LOL.... that is the method that is being recommended! Just with a different approach that, if you refer to those posts, you obviously don't understand and are misinterpreting.

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is this not part of your OP?


Writing a letter to your employer that You and X many employees are leaving work and will not return until Cannabis is fully legalized!

Getting large groups of people to go on Hunger Strikes for this cause!


The posts I referenced are in direct accordance with these two items.

Along with some of your views...your title is echo's the same level of fanaticism. So don't tell me I don't understand when it's pretty obvious what angle
you're working.

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I was hoping that people would understand the implications of such a thing Happening in the united states...... basically, if all the stoners don't go to work, the U.S. will shut down, everything will halt,

What kind of backward nonsense is this?



and if the stoners protest ALL at once, making their own individual sacrifices to do it, then there is no denying the DEMAND... especially because any anti marijuana protest would be drowned by pot activists! The United States would Have to meet the demand, or the entire country would collapse.

So let's be reasonable here. Out of the 303,000,000 people that populate the United States how many do you think smoke Marijuana?

20%, 30%, 40%?

Believe me when I say this. The United States would not collapse in anyway. Socially or economically if the gov't didn't meet our demands.

Knowing these implications, and seeing the numbers of people getting ready to do it (which they can do nothing about) will hopefully lead the government to deal with it before it gets to that point. But if they don't, then these Drastic measures are necessary to do the job, and they will get the job done well.



To all the people that would have any negative, cynical, or otherwise downer things to say about this:

When you are sitting in prison, jail, or are otherwise incarcerated because of any Cannabis related Activity, and you are violated in any form, I will have no remorse or care for you at all, I will laugh at you and tell you that you Asked for it. It is our Inaction as a Social Class, and Cannabis Community, that has kept the laws the way they are for so long, especially those that would look upon Activism, Protest, or any other supportive services with pessimistic views...

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See this is what a radical or fanatical entity would say. "If you're not for us you're against us" and that's simply wrong. You're asking people to give up livelyhoods. The way the eat. Hell the way they smoke. The way they grow. That's why you'll never receive the support of any real activists.

biggravy did you miss MY post. i think your missing the point which is this: what has been done didnt work, what we are doing isnt working, so the next logical step is to go bigger than we ever have before. If that means all those pot smokers that are contributing so much in thier communities and want to complain about how the government treats them but dont want to do any thing about it have to actualy work for a cause instead of working for money (money only causes the status quo to remain constent... but thats another thread) then im all for it. Like i said it is obvious that not everyone will be able to protest in such a loud manner, but the volumes come from numbers. If we all do SOMETHING and do it on the same day we will be heard

Fanatic- a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal, as in religion or politics.

Yep, thats me

radical- 1.of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference. 2.thoroughgoing or extreme, esp. as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company. 3.favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical ideologues. 4.forming a basis or foundation. 5.existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.
Yep, that sounds about right. What is wrong with either of these things? was not John the Babtist a zealot?

Its great how you cut up those posts to make them fit your negative personification of this idea. Those were responses to posts of other people. There is no backwards nonsense involved whatsoever, I have thought through it all very thoroughly. And for some reason a lot of people are rallying behind the idea....?......
Starving oneself, and quitting your job in letter form are not Requirements... participation is what is being asked for, and what I am saying is that the more committed the activity, and the more we show people that it Matters, the more likely people will look at it and consider it, give it more idealogical value (legalization that is). And I would think that of the overall population of the U.S. 60-75% is a more realistic number of smokers and supporters, as this does not just apply to those that smoke, but also to those that either do not oppose the idea or support the idea of legalization. There are bills being proposed in congress that address the issues we are talking about.... showing tons of support for that would help... and it would be a good base as a piece of legislature or an Amendment to the Constitution that we would be demanding....

the whole day crew and most of the night shift quit at this krystals i was workin at a while back and it took 2 fuckin days to replace them

2 fuckin days.

yeah I know..... see here in the U.S. people go through a hiring process, and if enough employees quit around the same time the business cannot operate until suitable replacements are found. Which means that if enough people do that, Wal Marts, K Marts, Lowes, etc etc. almost all of corporate America would really shut down, and that would devastate the economy. Its only logical! Especially if Gov officials etc. all resigned at the same time!

Hey guys, I read in the paper recently that two guys got busted for growing a couple plants in front of their mobile home. Cops were driving by and saw them and busted the guy. Yeah, for real...

I was thinking, why not plant your extra seeds wherever you go... I remember a while back seeing a photo of a NY city police dept. with two planters in front of the doors with weed growing in them. Yeah, no kidding.

Wouldn't it be funny to see it growing in front of the local PD's, mayor's house, cops houses, etc, etc... AND, get pictures! Then make an "Anonymous" tip... heh heh heh... And/Or submit to your local paper...

Gives a new meaning to Overgrow Your Government...

Exactly.... that is greatly appreciated... and to all of us that can do that, and actually do, I commend you with deepest respect!

I will Outline the general idea I am presenting all over again a little bit later.... so every one can see a better written description of this idea... how about that?

i think that would be good since people are looking at this a little too "straight forward" if you will. Please loaded explain...

and dito to the commendations given out by loaded

wow,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the battle of the dimwits!!!!