The Truth About Flushing

IMO, it is best for a new grower to experiment and get hands on learning for themselves, flush one and don't flush another, cure and compare. Same with drowning em, do one, don't do another. This allows you to see for yourself any differences. Ultimately the choice is yours and every one should follow thier own path. The purpose of this thread was not to say YOU MUST DO IT THIS WAY,,,,No, the purpose of this thread was to put the truth out there to help stop the spread of bad info

Just for clarification as I have 3+ lbs ripening next week. If your going to drown, do you still do 48 hours of dark with no water and then flood them. Or just shut everything down in standing water and call it good?

I have to admit that I'm a little nervous about experimenting with 10k worth of bud

legallyflying said:

Just for clarification as I have 3+ lbs ripening next week. If your going to drown, do you still do 48 hours of dark with no water and then flood them. Or just shut everything down in standing water and call it good?

I have to admit that I'm a little nervous about experimenting with 10k worth of bud

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must be in hydro, just shut everything down and leave them standing in water, have a buddy that uses fencepost and has the endcap drilled so it drains, to drown he reverses the end cap and just fills the post with water

I just put the pot in a bigger bucket then flood. I leave it under same schedule for a few days. Just my way, but others do some differences. On a hydro I think I would turn off air supply. Can you do a few different or is the set-up an all or nothing deal? I wondered the first time but it does work.

I'm in bucket ebb and flow So I'll just let the control bucket fill up all the way then unplug it. When it comes time to drain, I'll just plug it in.

I'm thinking I'll fill my Rez with mt. dew for the mega sweet caffeine high weed !

Mt. Dew has Electrolytes like Brawndo right?

Danielsgb said:

Mt. Dew has Electrolytes like Brawndo right?
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that movie is just sick

so from what i can gather drowning them will make them cure faster?
you see i read it all and i understand the facts.. but im often so high cant string anything together

hey guys,
here's a photo of the flowering cab taken a few days ago:

as you can see in the far right corner is the most mature plant, she is an OG kush x Bubba Kush from seed, LST'd. she's in middle of week 7 right now.
here's some bud shots:





im interested in trying the drowning method, this is my first harvest. the younger plants in there cant suddenly have a few days of darkness...
so
looks like i will have to cut around the screen and pull out the entire plant and then keep it in dark somewhere else and start the drowning,
or i can drown while its in there and then chop off the branches and oh yea, then anyway ill have to somehow pull out the pot,
i dont care about cutting through the screen ill have learned not to have varying aged plants under a screen
just tell me how to drown in this particular set of circumstances please.,
i really would love to have dried cured bud faster

PS sorry if i missed this somewhere is drying time still 1 week? im confused, because i thought the plant needs to be dry before harvesting so that it dries quicker and avoids mold better?

You don't have to do days in the dark. I didn't quite get your set up. Here's what I do. Flood soil, timer/lights same for 5 to 7 days. Then when I harvest I snip all fan leaves then hang in a dry box 30/30 for it's fan. Then about a week later I trim sugar leaves, and into glass jars. Cure becomes days not weeks. Quick answer, hope it helps.
Daniels

basically just do whatever to keep the soil/roots wet and oxygen starved, dunk pot in a bucket, water every hour whatever is easiest for you

if lights are on it takes longer

you still have to dry em but yes they start to cure while alive and continue while drying so by the time they hit the jars you can smoke em and yes they continue getting better in the jars, just happens faster, a week in the jar after drowning is like 30 days in the jar without drowning

Danielsgb said:

You don't have to do days in the dark. I didn't quite get your set up. Here's what I do. Flood soil, timer/lights same for 5 to 7 days. Then when I harvest I snip all fan leaves then hang in a dry box 30/30 for it's fan. Then about a week later I trim sugar leaves, and into glass jars. Cure becomes days not weeks. Quick answer, hope it helps.
Daniels

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How do I know when I'm 5-7 days away from chop?
Also riddleme had mentioned "up to 14 days with lights on" for drowning. So should I be startin already? Again she is in week 7 and still goin strong

let me clarify: I have read and heard that pitting the plant into complete darkness for 24-48 hrs can increase resin production; if I want to do that and keep the plant growing I'll have to remove it from the cab because I'm not gonna just flip the lights off for that long while younger plants are in there still flowering!
So the only thing I can think of Is cutting away at the screen so I can get the plant outta there while still leaving the screen in place for the other plants that are using it.
If I do this can it will mak things difficult bec I have one veg cab one flower cab and I don't know where else I would leave her.
Also can you explain flooding? Sorry for the n00b isms

I don't believe that 24-48 dark period is any help for increased potency, but worth an experiment. I just don't see the botany behind it.
I look at trich's under a microscope and then you get a clue. I like some ambericity, so if fully cloudy you know it's soon. The hairs recede too. That one is a ton of research but some other guys might have a good link.
I think I get what you're saying. So trim screen so you can put it in a dark closet, or whatever works for your dark period. I think it takes more than 2 days for this drowning to work.
The plant has to start using stored sugars and chlorophyll to begin fermentation. You have to be careful going too long so no bud rot starts. That's part of why I do same lights for 5 or more days. Here's that clone from when I did the test, then the one I am drowning now.
Daniels

oh that second one looks fantastic, huge tall, will be a very large bud...and the first is real pretty purple. love it

sorry i didnt understand what you meant "thats why i do same lights for 5 or more days"

lochem said:

oh that second one looks fantastic, huge tall, will be a very large bud...and the first is real pretty purple. love it

sorry i didn't understand what you meant "thats why i do same lights for 5 or more days"

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That first one is a Royal Kush. I just harvested a Purple Rain with a beautiful purple tint to the Cola.
I just meant I keep them where they were on same lights, same fans, same schedule. I'm thinking of 48 hrs in the dark is asking for mold issues. Plus as I mention this takes more than a day or two & I want it spending the time sucking up energy under it's HID light. Hope that clears up the how & why of how I drown mine to cure faster.
Daniels

we like to taper our nutes off and finish with a few waterings of ph'ed water... i've never 'drowned' but i *have done the dark thing and swear by it so i'm very interested! ! my only gripe would be that i usually like to finish up with my soil dry for ease of removal but i'm sure that can be worked around...for this:

yo daniels. There was a scientific study done that proved that there are higher THC levels following 48 hours of darkness. Google around you will find it. I think it was done by the same guy that studied THC content and the role of low humidity and altitude in Afghanistan,

I'll look for it. I didn't see it when I was researching it. Thanks
Daniels

Danielsgb said:

I'll look for it. I didn't see it when I was researching it. Thanks
Daniels

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Here is a quote from the study, gives you the keywords to search for, but note that the study has been removed from the SIMM site due to some legal thing (according to them)

72Hrs Darkness before harvest:
increases THC in the Bud
The Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmacies of Holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboratories and the University of Leiden. One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency.
SIMM’s growers separated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darkness for 72 hours before cutting and drying. Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen an increase of THC of up to 30%, while CBD and CBN remained the same.

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Couldn''t find the paper..well at least not purchasing it. But I did find another cool article...

http://druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html