Dan Kone
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Interesting how you don't refute anything I said and instead direct me towards your propaganda videos.
The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2
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Dan Kone
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So you're saying is what we need is a right wing extremist president?
How is that any different from someone on the far far left wanting a communist president?
Dan Kone
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Ok. Well show me a democratically elected head of state as far to the right as Ron Paul in the industrialized world that has been successful and I'll shut up right now.
deprave
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Ron Paul is not an extreme to the right...Ron Paul is for a lot of Social liberty so that is disingenuous to place him far to the right enough to consider it extreme.
Again, Unless your idea of extreme is outside that 1 inch gap, In that case I guess you think JFK, MLK, CARTER, MalcomX, Jefferson and every other great hero is extreme, see I can use your own bullshit arguments against you also, I can do that 2, as opposed to arguing based on common sense, retarded isn't it?
Ron Paul is a racist and thats that so lets just not talk about right? Ron Paul is an extremist and extremism doesn't work so thats that and la tee da lets follow the moderates on the same old path of less liberty and more tyranny? Right? My life is good so they must know what they are doing?
Again, Unless your idea of extreme is outside that 1 inch gap, In that case I guess you think JFK, MLK, CARTER, MalcomX, Jefferson and every other great hero is extreme, see I can use your own bullshit arguments against you also, I can do that 2, as opposed to arguing based on common sense, retarded isn't it?
Ron Paul is a racist and thats that so lets just not talk about right? Ron Paul is an extremist and extremism doesn't work so thats that and la tee da lets follow the moderates on the same old path of less liberty and more tyranny? Right? My life is good so they must know what they are doing?
Dan Kone
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If what you're saying is true, then it should be really easy to shut me up with an example of a democratically elected world leader who was fiscally to the right of Ron Paul.
Of course what you say isn't true. Ron Paul is an extremist, you just happen to agree with that extreme.
JFK and Carter's economic policies were to the right of republican president Dwight Eisenhower. So lol @ them being extremists.
Last time I checked MLK and Malcom X were elected to exactly nothing. I wouldn't vote for Malcom X to be on city counsel let alone president. I don't think I'd vote for MLK as president either. I'd vote for him for congress to make sure his voice was heard, but I don't think I'd have him running the show, he was too extreme to do that.
deprave
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NOW I EXPECT YOU TO STFU LIKE YOU PROMISED
Dan Kone
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I said an industrialized nation. You can't compare 18th century economics to our industrialized global economy.
So where is the leader of an industrialized nation that is to the right of Ron Paul?
and lol @ you thinking Ben Franklin was president.
deprave
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Did I say he was president? No.....I just pasted the founding fathers list cause that answered your question, Didn't know about all this hidden criteria, Bush's, Nixon, Reagan all horrible... are more right then Ron Paul, Although they are moderates essentially they have/had more right wing views then Ron Paul. It could even be argued that Eisenhower was more right wing or Palin or Romney, or any neoconservative. Simply being Pro-life & Pro-drug war would automatically make you more right wing then Ron Paul. If Ron could be called an extreme anything, it would be extreme libertarian.
Now you can go ahead and shut up as you promised.
Now you can go ahead and shut up as you promised.
deprave
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again this all detracts from the whole point, the point is that ron paul is on the top half of that chart with the people while the politicians are down at the bottom sucking the fortune 500's wangs. This gap must be closed for the sake of humanity.
As Ron Paul says of the liberty movement, It truly is a humanitarian cause. This is why we follow Ron Paul, this is why Ron Paul supporters tell you to 'open your eyes' ...
As Ron Paul says of the liberty movement, It truly is a humanitarian cause. This is why we follow Ron Paul, this is why Ron Paul supporters tell you to 'open your eyes' ...
UncleBuck
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post ejaculation hematuria. look it up.
i had that a while back when i suffered some trauma in my happy zone. i would rather have post ejaculation hematuria than ron paul as president.
deprave
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Cause Ron Paul will become elected and all the sudden people wont be able to get abortions Right? Ron Paul is a racist, he doesnt like a peice of paper therefore he supports slavery and genocide right? And for some reason your wife needs to constantly have abortions without medical necessity...Tell her to get birth control, I don't get why this is such a big deal for you really but whatever. I am pro-choice and I still support Ron Paul.
Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom")[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but most liberals support such fundamental ideas as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, free trade, and the freedom of religion.[3][4][5][6][7] These ideas are widely accepted, even by political groups that do not openly profess a liberal ideological orientation. Liberalism encompasses several intellectual trends and traditions, but the dominant variants are classical liberalism, which became popular in the eighteenth century, and social liberalism, which became popular in the twentieth century.
Ron Paul is a classical liberal. Libertarians are classical liberals. Most Americans are classical liberals. The Democrat leadership is social liberals. The GOP is more or less half classic liberal and half conservative.
Classical Liberalism = Freedom in every aspect of our lives, limited government
Modern Liberalism = Freedom in our personal lives, but bondage in our financial lives.
GOP Liberalism = Freedom in our financial lives, but bondage in our personal lives.
People only support GOP and Modern Liberalism when you make it vague. When asked about their exact beliefs regarding their own lives they are almost always classical liberals. The reason they don't vote that way is really because the main leaders are bastards.
Liberals - Do you think that your neighbor should be able to take half of your stuff if he has nothing?
Conservative - Do you think that your neighbor should be allowed to tell you how to live your life?
The only people that will answer, and vote their ideals are the Libertarians. Everyone else is just picking from 2 sides that are fatally flawed. I look at the Republicans with as much disdain as I look at the Democrats.
Libertarians are not right-wing any more than they are left-wing. They have half of the beliefs of one side, and half of the beliefs of the other. They are centrists. Half of the country approves of half the libertarian message, the other half approves of the other half of the libertarian message. Wouldn't that make the Left and the Right extremists since the entire message is repulsive to the other side? Ron Paul votes what he believes in regardless of party. I think if he makes it to the general election that he will do to Obama what Obama did to McCain. Except we all know Ron Paul won't immediately renege and do exactly what he said he wouldn't do like Obama has. We have 40 years of proof of that.
Ron Paul is a classical liberal. Libertarians are classical liberals. Most Americans are classical liberals. The Democrat leadership is social liberals. The GOP is more or less half classic liberal and half conservative.
Classical Liberalism = Freedom in every aspect of our lives, limited government
Modern Liberalism = Freedom in our personal lives, but bondage in our financial lives.
GOP Liberalism = Freedom in our financial lives, but bondage in our personal lives.
People only support GOP and Modern Liberalism when you make it vague. When asked about their exact beliefs regarding their own lives they are almost always classical liberals. The reason they don't vote that way is really because the main leaders are bastards.
Liberals - Do you think that your neighbor should be able to take half of your stuff if he has nothing?
Conservative - Do you think that your neighbor should be allowed to tell you how to live your life?
The only people that will answer, and vote their ideals are the Libertarians. Everyone else is just picking from 2 sides that are fatally flawed. I look at the Republicans with as much disdain as I look at the Democrats.
Libertarians are not right-wing any more than they are left-wing. They have half of the beliefs of one side, and half of the beliefs of the other. They are centrists. Half of the country approves of half the libertarian message, the other half approves of the other half of the libertarian message. Wouldn't that make the Left and the Right extremists since the entire message is repulsive to the other side? Ron Paul votes what he believes in regardless of party. I think if he makes it to the general election that he will do to Obama what Obama did to McCain. Except we all know Ron Paul won't immediately renege and do exactly what he said he wouldn't do like Obama has. We have 40 years of proof of that.
A lot of people thought that about Obama when he magically appeared with no experience at all, but look at him now. I wouldn't say it is impossible.
How messed up is it that Obama has basically carried on all the Bush era stuff that the left hated? lol. Yo know, all the stuff that got Obama elected? How about the last set of elections? The Republicans beat some ass there because of it. To pretend like it couldn't all change in the blink of an eye is silly. Look at the completely reversed roles of the Demos and Repubs in the last 100 years. To believe a lot of Republicans wouldn't move to the center under Ron Pauls leadership and that half the left wouldn't jump ship to move to the center. What you would have is a 3 party system where the Libertarians dominate. This sort of turmoil our country is in is just the birth place of such radical changed.
londonfog
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i do believe ron paul has went down this road before...unlike Obama..same outcome..care to wager
UncleBuck
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that "piece of paper" he doesn't like insures equal rights for millions.
and it isn't just about my wife. it is about 50% of the population having the morality of some evangelical forced upon them. no form of birth control is 100%, and any pregnancy carries with it the risk of death.
like i said, i would rather piss blood after i nut then to give that squirrely geezer access to the nuclear codes.