Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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i said i liked the idea, better than electing lawyers and oil tycoonists as presidents, id love a humanist president.
Ok I get it now, OMGWTFBBQ writes a lot of sarcastic post, why do you use sarcasim in text chat? It doesnt translate properly you just confuse people dude.![]()
Sometimes choices aren't quite so black and white. If letting that corporation fail means letting hundreds of thousands or even millions of people losing their jobs that is not a good thing at all.
IMO the companies should have been seized by the government, broken up into smaller companies that were not too big to fail, and then sold off at a profit. But the bailouts did prevent a lot of job loss so they were an acceptable solution.
Sorry but we can't afford to be such a decadent society where we let political ideology take precedence over American jobs.
Last time I saw you use the term robber barons I ignored it, but seeing it again it annoys me. You would rather put the power in the governments hand (where power can be taken to much greater heights) than to leave it in a corporations where it is at least limited to that particular market? Maybe our government should free the market, and pay it's portion of the money used to regulate business to hire economists and market analysts to read between the lines and make the public aware of the scams these companies are performing. Then it is up to an non corrupt (non government influenced) media to push the message to the people of America. Perhaps this could help curb corporate crime?
Under Ron Paul we'd bring back the robber barons and nobility is exactly what we'd have.
Did you really say you believe that the American government should have the right to just step right in to a privately owned corporation (or even publicly falls into this, because either way the government doesn't own it) force the owners and CEOs to leave and break up and sell a company in bits and pieces?
To the contrary, I always had the understanding that large corporations did this to other competitor corporations to cause the competitor to collapse thus further perpetuating a monopoly.. Comments like these make it apparent who the supporters of the Constitution are or at the very least the people who don't understand it.
What if you owned a corporation with one other competitor (Kind of a Microsoft and Apple story) and because the CEO of your competitor was in cahoots with the President or VP, you don't think the government could come up with a reason to explain to the people why you were failing to run the business properly, take it over, kick you to the curb, and part your company off (possibly selling the most exclusive portions to your competitor) and pocketing profits. Or do you believe that politicians aren't that corrupt (Pres Nixon).
We also don't really truly know what the bailouts did for our economy. For all we know in the long run it could have hurt us in much worse ways
lol. The constitution permits the government to take actions in the name of national security.
I wasnt being sarcastic, why would i want to elect a lawyer, thats a conflict of interest, i would rather elect professors with academic achievements if given the choice between the two. i don't think Ron is a humanist though but h seems smart enough, i just cant shake the idea there's something off about his rhetoric. politics aside. i want to see more debates, if presidents held debates more often they wouldnt have this media whoring at the end of their terms whenever re-election is around the corner, we would have a comfortable understanding of future endeavors and its easier on the voters. dont get me wrong, i know speaches sound nice, and they can be just as insincere as a debate and just as predetermined, but i think that is still a safer venue for speech.
Seriously?it set a precident, that if your corrupt, and build a huge business worth billions, steal from it till its bankrupt and ready to close the doors, but instead whine to a liberal government, you can get free money from the taxpayers
Where???????? Please prove this to me and I will never argue with you again. I want references DIRECTLY to the Constitution and not the constitution of Paraguay either (if there is one).
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
This is my point. In the beginning, if I own a business the government is not touching a god damn thing. Bottom line. This kind of ideals would absolutely disgust the founding fathers.
Additionally, the phrase "National Security" can be used to say that a child wearing a shirt that says "Legalize Marijuana" in their own neighborhood could be dealt with however the federal government deemed necessary because the message threatened their anti-drug campaign that is being used to stop the flow of drugs from dealers that support terrorists.
National security my ass, the founding fathers said they do not believe in giving ANY rights up for ANY security what so ever. You are thinking of the god damn Patriot Act.
It is intresting they don't even include his name among the canidadates but they include Herman Cain- Everyone should Vote Paul even if he's not on the ballot.
facebook or football i think!!!
If, Ron Paul = the Ryan budget plan, he may as well go home. Republicans that hinge their platform on the kill medicare bill are commiting political suicide, and thank God, most of them are. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a mass exodus from the Ryan bill around May-June next year.The lesson: don't fuck with seniors, they vote.
glad to see you back!
did you do the surgery?
If, Ron Paul = the Ryan budget plan, he may as well go home. Republicans that hinge their platform on the kill medicare bill are commiting political suicide, and thank God, most of them are. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a mass exodus from the Ryan bill around May-June next year.The lesson: don't fuck with seniors, they vote. If Republicans can't see the public is just flat fed up with their libertarian Ideas, they are in for a real surprise at the polls come next november (2012). America is about US, all of us, not just the top 10%. The people are waking up to the selfish aspirations of republican politicians and their rich buddies, I think we'll see a real turnaround in 2012. Power to the people.