The UK Growers Thread!

Lemon king

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Had a nightmare week man. Back in wales for a lot longer than I thought I would be so had to get the helper to sort them out.

Ill be round a bit more for them now. Temps were 28 when I got there last night.

They in Coco and Perlite mix. on 12 ml canna a n b, cal mag, epsom. Just stopped enzymes cos they were making the feed look funky. Ph'd to 5.7-6.2.

I need to get humidity and light distance dialed in. Looking at new shoes in a week or so, then flip a week or two after that
enzymes are a blessing in dwc and even better in coco/soil but they do have a very short shelf life and ideally need airating......

i bought some microriza the other day not ment for hydro at all as roots need to grow through it (so it sticks and is in constant contact).....chucked a scoop of the grey garvel onto roots above water line.....in 24 hours the root mass doubled with shiney white thick roots.....



i then dug up my soil clones and tipped loads in and reported.....

the plants are growing just as fast in soil as in dwc im so gobsmacked im considering dumping the dwc for the ease of a soil grow and start busting the teas like zedd......mycos all day every day.....£4 at wilkos.....they even garentee a 4x better root mass........
 

welshwizzard

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just keep topping the two mains (top em now for four mains then again for 8 in a few days) youll have a flat plant with 8 tops kinda scrog looking...then cut all branches below the Y and use as clones or chuck.... you'll end up with 8 main colas and little waste......

only suggesting because of the strain you growing and you've already got level mains......gotta keep all tops level for mline to work.....
Nice man, I'll give that a blast tonight or tomorrow.
 

welshwizzard

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enzymes are a blessing in dwc and even better in coco/soil but they do have a very short shelf life and ideally need airating......

i bought some microriza the other day not ment for hydro at all as roots need to grow through it (so it sticks and is in constant contact).....chucked a scoop of the grey garvel onto roots above water line.....in 24 hours the root mass doubled with shiney white thick roots....


i then dug up my soil clones and tipped loads in and reported.....

the plants are growing just as fast in soil as in dwc im so gobsmacked im considering dumping the dwc for the ease of a soil grow and start busting the teas like zedd......mycos all day every day.....£4 at wilkos.....they even garentee a 4x better root mass........
Yeah I saw you post about those the other day.

It's things like stale feeds that always catch me out man. Zymes are amazing. As you said, funky life span though.

Would love to get a good tea / bennies on the go for coco. Probably too lazy if I'm honest.
 

Lemon king

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Yeah I saw you post about those the other day.

It's things like stale feeds that always catch me out man. Zymes are amazing. As you said, funky life span though.

Would love to get a good tea / bennies on the go for coco. Probably too lazy if I'm honest.
i hear ya man....im a fuck all man myself as in if i can get away with doing fuck all i will.....and i mean proper fuck all.....the kinda fuck all were thinking becomes too much and just being is enough....lol...

anyways if you are like me sugar peak make a hydro organic fusion, all mixes up crystal clear in a res, in switching over now....but they do a product called catalyst and it is highly reccomened to use alongside any other nute brand to provide enzymes, silica and humic and fulic acids to the plant......basically it improves all nutes!!
 

zeddd

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mycos don't double the root mass overnight lem, what is this turning into the bs thread fuk me people learn from this but all this misinformation is letting down the thread imo
 

ilyaas123

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I hate it when I randomly pop up on this thread and I have no idea what is going on even after I read the three previous pages... can someone give me a hint so I can join along with this convo.
 

R3l@X

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I hate it when I randomly pop up on this thread and I have no idea what is going on even after I read the three previous pages... can someone give me a hint so I can join along with this convo.
symbiotic fungi ...mycorrhizae...makes for some banging roots but not overnight lol
 

Lemon king

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no mate it takes up to 6+weeks to see the benifit. Its supposedly sensitive to N so best applied to cuttings n seedlings that haven't been fed any nutes until the fungus has established itself.
were did you get 6weeks???.. . But it has worked a mass of new roots over night.....in dwc addtions effect the plant almost instantly...you can turn a plant round from dead to healthy in 3 days in dwc....

and they help transport N to were it needs to be and are defo not sensitive to it......they include a special myco spesh for this.......so long as the gravel is touching roots its working...

they are used to improve roots, allow them to take up more water and nutes and allow the plant to become more resistant to stress....in an ideal enviro they can work wonders.......

obv its best if this is started from seedling nothing to do with not having food.....

i could not stand a stick up in dirt as i said earlya everything improved after mycos try it and see......rhi approved lol
 

Lemon king

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Here you go relax from that products site again backed by the royal horticultural institute (so im not making it up)


most soils there simply are not enough of the right type of native mycorrhizal fungi close enough to the new plants roots to colonise fast enough to show the incredible range of benefits complete colonisation of a host plants roots can achieve.

This is why it is so important to use rootgrow, just 1 teaspoon can contain up to 5000 pieces of fungi all ready to explode into growth, colonising every millimetre of a plants roots in a matter of days.

A new plant with a fully functioning mycorrhizal root will have the best chance of becoming the rewarding plant gardeners so passionately want to thrive in their gardens.

The benefits of rootgrow™ mycorrhizal fungi

one treatment lasts forever (as the plant grows the fungal partner grows)



easy to use (simply sprinkle in the bottom of the planting hole)


earlier and better growth (in 2-4 weeks after planting the mycorrhizal fungi can increase the active root area of plants by up to 700 times)


better drought tolerance (due to the vast fungal root making best use of all available soil moisture)


better uptake of fertilisers when applied after planting (the network of mycorrhizal fungi act like a net catching nutrients and preventing leaching, especially with natural fertilisers)


increased uptake of obscure trace elements (the ultra fine fungal strands can unlock nutrients from the soil)


reduced mortality of plants especially specimen plants and plants that are difficult to establish (the extended root system nourishes the plant from very early on in its life)


helps prevent rose replant problems (the mycorrhizal fungi colonise weak or damaged roots and start transferring nutrients and water to the rose much faster than its own roots)


(In summary the benefits include)
◦
Better and more balanced growth

◦
Healthier and more dense root system with hugely increased ability to exchange nutrients from the soil

◦
More abundant flowers and fruit

◦
Reduced need for synthetic or chemical fertilisers

◦
Higher resistance to drought

◦
Reduced stress during transplanting

◦
Stabilization of surface

◦
Improved resistance to soil pathogenes and environmental stress



Did You Know?
◦
Rootgrow can increase the root capacity of a plant by up to 700 times in just a few months

◦
The roots of a mature Beech tree laid out end to end would stretch for 5 miles, the mycorrhizal hyphae (rootgrow root) responsible for feeding that tree would stretch around the globe!

◦
20m of fungal hyphae have been found in just one sugar cube size piece of soil

◦
Glomalin, a sticky glue like substance, is exuded by the fungi and is locking up one third of the worlds carbon underground. It also binds soil particles together which builds good structure.

◦
Mycorrhizal fungi is used to treat tea plants grown on plantations in Kenya which ends up in some of our tea bags

◦
Pine trees and conifers would not exist on earth without the association with mycorrhizal fungi – imagine the earth without forests!

◦
Some rootgrow fungi produce mushrooms used in cooking, including the Cep and Chanterelle, delicious!

◦
The largest single living organism on earth (by area) is said to be an Armillaria fungi covering almost 2,200 acres in a forest in Oregon, North America – awesome! Humongus Fungus!
Click here


find out more...

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2835533

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myc


notice it says colonisation in 2-4weeks in soil......my plants roots are in water constantly being fed etc......
 

R3l@X

Well-Known Member
Here you go relax from that products site again backed by the royal horticultural institute (so im not making it up)


most soils there simply are not enough of the right type of native mycorrhizal fungi close enough to the new plants roots to colonise fast enough to show the incredible range of benefits complete colonisation of a host plants roots can achieve.

This is why it is so important to use rootgrow, just 1 teaspoon can contain up to 5000 pieces of fungi all ready to explode into growth, colonising every millimetre of a plants roots in a matter of days.

A new plant with a fully functioning mycorrhizal root will have the best chance of becoming the rewarding plant gardeners so passionately want to thrive in their gardens.

The benefits of rootgrow™ mycorrhizal fungi

one treatment lasts forever (as the plant grows the fungal partner grows)



easy to use (simply sprinkle in the bottom of the planting hole)


earlier and better growth (in 2-4 weeks after planting the mycorrhizal fungi can increase the active root area of plants by up to 700 times)


better drought tolerance (due to the vast fungal root making best use of all available soil moisture)


better uptake of fertilisers when applied after planting (the network of mycorrhizal fungi act like a net catching nutrients and preventing leaching, especially with natural fertilisers)


increased uptake of obscure trace elements (the ultra fine fungal strands can unlock nutrients from the soil)


reduced mortality of plants especially specimen plants and plants that are difficult to establish (the extended root system nourishes the plant from very early on in its life)


helps prevent rose replant problems (the mycorrhizal fungi colonise weak or damaged roots and start transferring nutrients and water to the rose much faster than its own roots)


(In summary the benefits include)
◦
Better and more balanced growth

◦
Healthier and more dense root system with hugely increased ability to exchange nutrients from the soil

◦
More abundant flowers and fruit

◦
Reduced need for synthetic or chemical fertilisers

◦
Higher resistance to drought

◦
Reduced stress during transplanting

◦
Stabilization of surface

◦
Improved resistance to soil pathogenes and environmental stress



Did You Know?
◦
Rootgrow can increase the root capacity of a plant by up to 700 times in just a few months

◦
The roots of a mature Beech tree laid out end to end would stretch for 5 miles, the mycorrhizal hyphae (rootgrow root) responsible for feeding that tree would stretch around the globe!

◦
20m of fungal hyphae have been found in just one sugar cube size piece of soil

◦
Glomalin, a sticky glue like substance, is exuded by the fungi and is locking up one third of the worlds carbon underground. It also binds soil particles together which builds good structure.

◦
Mycorrhizal fungi is used to treat tea plants grown on plantations in Kenya which ends up in some of our tea bags

◦
Pine trees and conifers would not exist on earth without the association with mycorrhizal fungi – imagine the earth without forests!

◦
Some rootgrow fungi produce mushrooms used in cooking, including the Cep and Chanterelle, delicious!

◦
The largest single living organism on earth (by area) is said to be an Armillaria fungi covering almost 2,200 acres in a forest in Oregon, North America – awesome! Humongus Fungus!
Click here


find out more...

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2835533

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myc


notice it says colonisation in 2-4weeks in soil......my plants roots are in water constantly being fed etc......
Notice how I said UP TO 6+ weeks lol
once the fungi has established itself you'll be able to feed away. Grasscity did a good peace on ut...sprry i cant link U im on my phone
 

Saerimmner

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Every time these twats delete a post it fucks the thread up for the next page or so, getting pissed off with the constant problems on this fucking site
 

R3l@X

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Every time these twats delete a post it fucks the thread up for the next page or so, getting pissed off with the constant problems on this fucking site
yeah its falling apart ain't it? FUCKING COWBOYS! Shame no other sites as good or id be gone
 

shawnybizzle

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Alreet fanny features what a gwaan up in here then more bullshit I see haha...just shifted 20 boxes in 10 mins yes please that'll do ;)...chillin with a nice joint niw ...oh tempos are all under control now Lol tops 28° so sweeeeet
 

R3l@X

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Alreet fanny features what a gwaan up in here then more bullshit I see haha...just shifted 20 boxes in 10 mins yes please that'll do ;)...chillin with a nice joint niw ...oh tempos are all under control now Lol tops 28° so sweeeeet
fair fucks bud, is that with one or 2 600s on?
 
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