The UK Growers Thread!

zeddd

zeddd

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NorthofEngland said:
It's not just my own opinion.
It's millions of words of expert testimony, offered in the open courts of the worlds most open societies
or the highly selective renderings of a few conspiracy theorists.

No one who understands the checks and balances of western democracies believes that a conspiracy of this size could ever remain secret.
It's not the way the world works. It's not the way that individuals work.

I'm not saying that our systems are perfect
but they are a lot more honest than these nightmare conspiracies would need to take place.

An that really is my last word on 9/11.
I know enough internet conspiracy theorists to understand they need to feel they are one of the few in possession of the truth.
Everyone else are mugs.
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Easy to see why most people think your way but your opinion is based on what you have been told by the media, when you look at the discrepencies between the official story and the laws of physics then im going to pursue the science, fact remains...aviation fuel burning cant bring down a steel framed building.......I don't need to believe in conspiracies to understand this. The most outrageous conspiracy theory is that some raghead on dialysis in a cave beat the entire US first defence and over-rode norad somehow...the official story...and yes if you believe it so will millions more mate, but its just BS
 
R3l@X

R3l@X

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NorthofEngland said:
If your talking about the steel in the Twin Towers structure(???)
The Jet fuel didn't 'melt' it.
It heated it to such a degree that it caused the steel to lose strength, thus rigidity.

Every aspect of the 9/11 attacks have been explained and re-explained.
Everyone from University Professors to retired Astronauts have provide testimony at Senate hearings to offer expert advice explaining what happened, why it happened and how it happened.
Are they all lying and it's all a big conspiracy - involving hundreds (or thousands) of people.
And all the conspirators keep it a secret. (All those people managing to keep a secret?)

The people who believe 9/11 was an inside job have very selective logic.
I believe the Americans call them 'Truthers' and treat them with little regard ???
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Your bang onabout the steel bending n it loses up to 50% of its rigidity in some cases....
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F. "

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."


Source: http://www.popularmechanics.com/_mobile/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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DISCLAIMER-I am no way saying this is the right or wrong way. I myself have grown to believe that "flowering" starts at the first signs of flowers. (Which in my case, always start in Vegging, due to pre-flowers) But I actually have started counting from the "Real Signs" of flowering(normally 7-14 days after the flip to 12/12) I STRONGLY believe in checking the Trichs, is a major factor in harvest. I also think of the flowering times provided by the breeders are just guidelines. I am also in NO WAY trying to start arguments. I have posted 1 of these emails in another thread, where some A-hole had to be put in his place, for trying to say I was "lying" about the emails, because the breeder wouldn't say something that stupid. When I posted a pic taken DIRECTLY from the breeders website, and provided him with a link to the breeder's website and the breeder's email address..... Needless to say the A-hole never commented back. I'm not doing this for any reason but bringing knowledge to the rest of my bro's and sis. I am not saying I agree with the breeders. I just emailed them and watever they emailed me back, I have posted. All I did is google "When do you start counting flowering", and watever cannabis community I was registered to, I posted this in the threads best suited. NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY WERE!
So please, I hope u guys can appreciate the time I took to write these breeders. And out of 12-15 breeders that I wrote, these 2 were the only 2 that responded, IMMEDIATELY! All I have done is copied and pasted from my email to thread. If I get more replies, I plan on startin a thread based on this topic. "When do BREEDERS start counting....."
I know this thread is OLD as hell. BUT!!!!!! After reading a bunch of different websites, I decided to write a breeder myself, and see if they would respond. I decided to go with Greenhouse Seeds, and they replied my email in less than 24 hours. I am only posting this to help any future people wondering when the breeders themselves start counting. I hope this help someone in the future. Now I know that this is only 1 breeder, and I will try to email a few more, but for now....... Here is a copy of my email from Greenhouse Seeds.
Happy Holidays,
Drdodge29
Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXX(my name doesn't matter),
Thank you for your email.
You start counting from the moment you switch the light to 12/12. The
flowering time depends on which strain you are growing. If you completed the
flowering weeks and the hairs are still quite white you can leave them a bit
longer. When 20-30% of the hairs become brown they are ready.
Kind regards,
GHSC
This next 1 is from Ceres Seeds.
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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Hai xxxxxxxx.(once again my name is IRRELEVANTPosted Image)
the correct answer would be from the moment you switch from 18/12 to 12/12.
Of course the stated flowering times are indications. You might want to flower a
couple of days longer or shorter, depending on your circumstances .
Good luck.
Louis
Ceres Seeds Amsterdam
PO Box 10213
1001 EE, Amsterdam
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.ceresseeds.com
 
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IC3M4L3

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WHAT THE FUK IS GOING ON HERE LIKE?

err no its like 70-80% brown haIrs

i walways take a week of in flowr if ive had problems

and relaz wtf is that? GAY much?

wally
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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as i dont have a scope i thought i would listen to all of those who said flower from start off mass pistills.....

the slh x sc took around 3days to fully pistilate...(they were bustin!) and the kings kut took a week.....

in now 3days past 8 weeks from 12/12 and i gotta say this kings kut it DONE i will post piks soon!!
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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well if ice is about.....

the other slh x sc is also comming down i cant justify 2more weeks for 1 plant when ive got loads gaging to take its place.....

if candyland had not fallen yday i would have ran them both 10weeks....
 
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IC3M4L3

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u can justify anything uwant lem, dont pull eraly, ul appreciate it more,

and 8 weeks is fukall buddy, all starins IMO should go 9-10 stadard

relax shurrup cunt

sae email thats booked

and yeh im fucking mullered -pregabs-vallies-dfs========fucked
 
R3l@X

R3l@X

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IC3M4L3 said:
u can justify anything uwant lem, dont pull eraly, ul appreciate it more,

and 8 weeks is fukall buddy, all starins IMO should go 9-10 stadard

relax shurrup cunt

sae email thats booked

and yeh im fucking mullered -pregabs-vallies-dfs========fucked
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You gonna get off any of em next?
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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ice email.....i sent u some bud porn from the toilet seat lid lol....(dw i wet wiped it down first lol)....of candyland that fell over yday.....

i tried for 40mins to tie her back up......damm mainling !!!
 
Lemon king

Lemon king

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IC3M4L3 said:
u can justify anything uwant lem, dont pull eraly, ul appreciate it more,

and 8 weeks is fukall buddy, all starins IMO should go 9-10 stadard

relax shurrup cunt

sae email thats booked

and yeh im fucking mullered -pregabs-vallies-dfs========fucked
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not justification just testing to see if yorkys right after all....how can i begin to argue with him when i havent bothered to take the time to see if hes right myself....

not just yorky but anyone!!
 
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