thewanderer718
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Thanks Jack, The Vault, and the good people at Mephisto Genetics. The wife claimed the shirt !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Vault’s Sour Livers Auto Comparative Grow – in association with Mephisto Genetics
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Jack Vault
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Nice fit!
HansBud
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That's friggin awesome hahaha
thewanderer718
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Put two in this morning !!!!!!!!!!!
Jgray766
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The gentlemen at the Vault have my lifelong business. They are great guys and added my sour livers and a shirt. I have been in contact with these guys and they make you feel like a person!! I will have my grow posted please check it out!! I'm gonna make them so awesome!! Where do we post our grows at on here? I'll do one on grasscity too..
thewanderer718
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We post in this thread
Received mine a few days ago.. I Will be growing them in my small grow tent under a 180w led. I only have room for 2 & out the last few grows I averaged about just under 2 ounce per autoflower ( started my new hobby as was sick paying over the odds for mediocre weed from dealers.Best hobby ever!).(Lost my job due to ill health& started growing medicinal strains as far more effective than loads of pills daily. I didn't have a clue about growing & just read the shit out the internet & in Rollitup learned loads ( every days a school day!) & enjoy reading different set ups,methods, schedules etc.Fingers crossed all goes well for everyone.Every seed ( over 1& half years)I have used from the vault has been successfull!
HansBud
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This is my first comparative as well and I'm hella stoked! I've run mephisto gear before and have not been let down yet this such a great opportunity to give em a try, but ye be warned.. once you go mephisto it's hard going backJust got myself accepted and am well pleased... I haven't run any mephisto before but I'm hearing good things about they're gear..
This my 1st comparative grow, thanks to George and Jack @ the Vault.! Happy growing
Gaz
Jack Vault
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Hi guys, just to let you all know that the Comparative is still open, but will not currently work in the cart as our developers are currently working on the cart - if any new entrants are trying to enter please send me an email to [email protected].
needsomebeans
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My beans and my shirt have made it across the pond. Thanks @Jack Vault!!! Three of them are soaking right now.
thewanderer718
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Cracked in 24 hours !!
Jack Vault
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Hi guys, I almost forgot to post this for you guys:
Big thanks to Mitch for this awesome detailed description of this strain - I'm sure you guys will love reading it as much as I did
Mephisto Genetics New Artisanal Strain: Sour Livers
Strain name: Sour Livers
Generation: F4
Type: Auto - Feminised
Genetic Heritage: 'The Livers' (cutting) x Sour Crack F4 Regular auto
............................................................................
Project introduction and Overview:
In January of 2015 we set about to create a bx project for our Artisanal collection. To improve the quality of our auto blues and to progress locking down more of the traits from our all time favourite strain into automatic form.
The main project was to use our Auto Blues as the auto parent to back cross to our livers cut and work to auto again over at least 4 generations. (That is also due out soon as the pure Auto livers)
At the same time we decided to make two other crosses for the fun of it, also crossing sour crack and chem city blues to the livers.
Fast forward a little over two years, the work is complete and we're super stoked to launch something that has developed into an astonishingly nice automatic: Sour Livers.
To those unfamiliar, 'The Livers' is an old school cutting that has been kept alive and spread mostly between growers in the North of England since at least the early 90's.
The reason being simple it's incredible as both a commercial producer and as a high quality top shelf head-stash variety. Strains come and go over time, but there's definitely a reason cuttings from this era are still doing the rounds, the exodus cheese, Psychosis, Northern lights to name a few others.
The only slight, if you can call it a downside, of the cutting is the intense level of aroma, and a very distinct but delicious aroma that the variety cranks out.
The catch 22 is that often it's impossible to sell any flowers in those areas that aren't this strain because it's all people want and love, but due to the aforementioned odour level it has been referred to as 'prison weed'- but have a good filter and no problemo.
It definitely sets the bar for high quality dope.
Mated to our Sour Crack we've blended two of our very favourite strains together, over each generation we selected for the 'livers' aroma and flower structure and the greasy sticky resin that is produced in abundance by the Sour Crack.
Sour livers is positively loaded with terps, every time you even get close you want to give the flowers a finger hug, and that aroma sticks on your fingers for hours after. Yes, people may look at you strangely perpetually smelling you fingers.
She's a really unique strain, and is way up there in the top strains we have made. Definitely expect to see a few special sour livers based hybrids on the horizon too in 2017.
Strain behaviour and structure:
To cut to the chase the Sour Livers is not a monster large strain. Given her heritage she is far more in line with the Auto-SOG style of plant, But she is a compact bushy variety of top notch quality, and for her size she packs a lot of flowers into a small area.
Give her a smooth ride in the seedling stage and it's plain sailing from there on out, she's not over fussy or finicky and once established will handle good levels of feed.
She absolutely benefits from some leaf tucking to expose those lateral branches she pushes out from early on, and encourage them to grow upwards and you'll be in for a treat of a mini-multicola'd gal.
It's also worth clearing out fluff on the internal and lower parts of the Sour Livers to ensure all energy gets diverted to the primo sites. A very small amount of work in those areas will result in the best possible results.
Variation between phenotypes is minimal, even under hps which can make plants stretch more the end size difference is minimal.
She does respond nicely to some gentle LST if you wish to, but really her natural bushiness makes it unnecessary for the most part.
Sour livers is a quick strain with a low overall cycle time, she switches from seedling to flower very quickly and then full into bud mode very quickly.
The flowers she produces are highly aromatic with an intoxicating scent, she really oozes terps and the resin on her fans sparkles.
The flowers are compact with very nice density, and as a result the end product is properly a looker.
We definitely recommend to ensure your odour control is fully working, as this is one of our smelliest strains. Don't chance it without.
............................................................................
Strain figures and info in brief:
Indica/Sativa: 80/20
In good conditions she will deliver -
Cycle time: 60-70 days
Size: 45-65cm Height/Width 35-50cm
Yield: 90-120g as a single plant grow
Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 500-600g is easily achievable.
Aroma and flavour: A Sweet/Sour/Fruity/Skunky combination that is very unique.
Effect: A nice balance is possible depending on consumption. Sedative, happy but something you can toke all day long at a good rate. Over indulge and expect couchlock.
Best grown: Indoor/Greenhouse
Flower Density: 8.5/10
Cannbinoids: TBA - Estimated over 20% total cannabinoids
Medicinal qualities: Great for appetite stimulation, aches and pains, and insomnia.
............................................................................
Further info:
Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing
Aroma level whilst growing - 10/10 Very high - Carbon filter alert
Trim ease - 7/10 - Main buds are very easy
Frost Level - 8/10
Bag Appeal - 9/10 Excellent - compact tough frosty smelly nuggets
After Cure Aroma level - 9/10 - High - double bag worthy
Potency - 9/10 Very high
Concentrate info - 9/10 Rich in terps ideal for rosin, live resin and bubble hash.
Overall Mephisto rating - 10/10 - Easily in our top 5 current strains that we love to grow and toke.
Big thanks to Mitch for this awesome detailed description of this strain - I'm sure you guys will love reading it as much as I did
Mephisto Genetics New Artisanal Strain: Sour Livers
Strain name: Sour Livers
Generation: F4
Type: Auto - Feminised
Genetic Heritage: 'The Livers' (cutting) x Sour Crack F4 Regular auto
............................................................................
Project introduction and Overview:
In January of 2015 we set about to create a bx project for our Artisanal collection. To improve the quality of our auto blues and to progress locking down more of the traits from our all time favourite strain into automatic form.
The main project was to use our Auto Blues as the auto parent to back cross to our livers cut and work to auto again over at least 4 generations. (That is also due out soon as the pure Auto livers)
At the same time we decided to make two other crosses for the fun of it, also crossing sour crack and chem city blues to the livers.
Fast forward a little over two years, the work is complete and we're super stoked to launch something that has developed into an astonishingly nice automatic: Sour Livers.
To those unfamiliar, 'The Livers' is an old school cutting that has been kept alive and spread mostly between growers in the North of England since at least the early 90's.
The reason being simple it's incredible as both a commercial producer and as a high quality top shelf head-stash variety. Strains come and go over time, but there's definitely a reason cuttings from this era are still doing the rounds, the exodus cheese, Psychosis, Northern lights to name a few others.
The only slight, if you can call it a downside, of the cutting is the intense level of aroma, and a very distinct but delicious aroma that the variety cranks out.
The catch 22 is that often it's impossible to sell any flowers in those areas that aren't this strain because it's all people want and love, but due to the aforementioned odour level it has been referred to as 'prison weed'- but have a good filter and no problemo.
It definitely sets the bar for high quality dope.
Mated to our Sour Crack we've blended two of our very favourite strains together, over each generation we selected for the 'livers' aroma and flower structure and the greasy sticky resin that is produced in abundance by the Sour Crack.
Sour livers is positively loaded with terps, every time you even get close you want to give the flowers a finger hug, and that aroma sticks on your fingers for hours after. Yes, people may look at you strangely perpetually smelling you fingers.
She's a really unique strain, and is way up there in the top strains we have made. Definitely expect to see a few special sour livers based hybrids on the horizon too in 2017.
Strain behaviour and structure:
To cut to the chase the Sour Livers is not a monster large strain. Given her heritage she is far more in line with the Auto-SOG style of plant, But she is a compact bushy variety of top notch quality, and for her size she packs a lot of flowers into a small area.
Give her a smooth ride in the seedling stage and it's plain sailing from there on out, she's not over fussy or finicky and once established will handle good levels of feed.
She absolutely benefits from some leaf tucking to expose those lateral branches she pushes out from early on, and encourage them to grow upwards and you'll be in for a treat of a mini-multicola'd gal.
It's also worth clearing out fluff on the internal and lower parts of the Sour Livers to ensure all energy gets diverted to the primo sites. A very small amount of work in those areas will result in the best possible results.
Variation between phenotypes is minimal, even under hps which can make plants stretch more the end size difference is minimal.
She does respond nicely to some gentle LST if you wish to, but really her natural bushiness makes it unnecessary for the most part.
Sour livers is a quick strain with a low overall cycle time, she switches from seedling to flower very quickly and then full into bud mode very quickly.
The flowers she produces are highly aromatic with an intoxicating scent, she really oozes terps and the resin on her fans sparkles.
The flowers are compact with very nice density, and as a result the end product is properly a looker.
We definitely recommend to ensure your odour control is fully working, as this is one of our smelliest strains. Don't chance it without.
............................................................................
Strain figures and info in brief:
Indica/Sativa: 80/20
In good conditions she will deliver -
Cycle time: 60-70 days
Size: 45-65cm Height/Width 35-50cm
Yield: 90-120g as a single plant grow
Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 500-600g is easily achievable.
Aroma and flavour: A Sweet/Sour/Fruity/Skunky combination that is very unique.
Effect: A nice balance is possible depending on consumption. Sedative, happy but something you can toke all day long at a good rate. Over indulge and expect couchlock.
Best grown: Indoor/Greenhouse
Flower Density: 8.5/10
Cannbinoids: TBA - Estimated over 20% total cannabinoids
Medicinal qualities: Great for appetite stimulation, aches and pains, and insomnia.
............................................................................
Further info:
Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing
Aroma level whilst growing - 10/10 Very high - Carbon filter alert
Trim ease - 7/10 - Main buds are very easy
Frost Level - 8/10
Bag Appeal - 9/10 Excellent - compact tough frosty smelly nuggets
After Cure Aroma level - 9/10 - High - double bag worthy
Potency - 9/10 Very high
Concentrate info - 9/10 Rich in terps ideal for rosin, live resin and bubble hash.
Overall Mephisto rating - 10/10 - Easily in our top 5 current strains that we love to grow and toke.
HansBud
Well-Known Member
Awesome info and good to know about the filters I'll get mine cleaned out just to be safeHi guys, I almost forgot to post this for you guys:
Big thanks to Mitch for this awesome detailed description of this strain - I'm sure you guys will love reading it as much as I did
Mephisto Genetics New Artisanal Strain: Sour Livers
Strain name: Sour Livers
Generation: F4
Type: Auto - Feminised
Genetic Heritage: 'The Livers' (cutting) x Sour Crack F4 Regular auto
............................................................................
Project introduction and Overview:
In January of 2015 we set about to create a bx project for our Artisanal collection. To improve the quality of our auto blues and to progress locking down more of the traits from our all time favourite strain into automatic form.
The main project was to use our Auto Blues as the auto parent to back cross to our livers cut and work to auto again over at least 4 generations. (That is also due out soon as the pure Auto livers)
At the same time we decided to make two other crosses for the fun of it, also crossing sour crack and chem city blues to the livers.
Fast forward a little over two years, the work is complete and we're super stoked to launch something that has developed into an astonishingly nice automatic: Sour Livers.
To those unfamiliar, 'The Livers' is an old school cutting that has been kept alive and spread mostly between growers in the North of England since at least the early 90's.
The reason being simple it's incredible as both a commercial producer and as a high quality top shelf head-stash variety. Strains come and go over time, but there's definitely a reason cuttings from this era are still doing the rounds, the exodus cheese, Psychosis, Northern lights to name a few others.
The only slight, if you can call it a downside, of the cutting is the intense level of aroma, and a very distinct but delicious aroma that the variety cranks out.
The catch 22 is that often it's impossible to sell any flowers in those areas that aren't this strain because it's all people want and love, but due to the aforementioned odour level it has been referred to as 'prison weed'- but have a good filter and no problemo.
It definitely sets the bar for high quality dope.
Mated to our Sour Crack we've blended two of our very favourite strains together, over each generation we selected for the 'livers' aroma and flower structure and the greasy sticky resin that is produced in abundance by the Sour Crack.
Sour livers is positively loaded with terps, every time you even get close you want to give the flowers a finger hug, and that aroma sticks on your fingers for hours after. Yes, people may look at you strangely perpetually smelling you fingers.
She's a really unique strain, and is way up there in the top strains we have made. Definitely expect to see a few special sour livers based hybrids on the horizon too in 2017.
Strain behaviour and structure:
To cut to the chase the Sour Livers is not a monster large strain. Given her heritage she is far more in line with the Auto-SOG style of plant, But she is a compact bushy variety of top notch quality, and for her size she packs a lot of flowers into a small area.
Give her a smooth ride in the seedling stage and it's plain sailing from there on out, she's not over fussy or finicky and once established will handle good levels of feed.
She absolutely benefits from some leaf tucking to expose those lateral branches she pushes out from early on, and encourage them to grow upwards and you'll be in for a treat of a mini-multicola'd gal.
It's also worth clearing out fluff on the internal and lower parts of the Sour Livers to ensure all energy gets diverted to the primo sites. A very small amount of work in those areas will result in the best possible results.
Variation between phenotypes is minimal, even under hps which can make plants stretch more the end size difference is minimal.
She does respond nicely to some gentle LST if you wish to, but really her natural bushiness makes it unnecessary for the most part.
Sour livers is a quick strain with a low overall cycle time, she switches from seedling to flower very quickly and then full into bud mode very quickly.
The flowers she produces are highly aromatic with an intoxicating scent, she really oozes terps and the resin on her fans sparkles.
The flowers are compact with very nice density, and as a result the end product is properly a looker.
We definitely recommend to ensure your odour control is fully working, as this is one of our smelliest strains. Don't chance it without.
............................................................................
Strain figures and info in brief:
Indica/Sativa: 80/20
In good conditions she will deliver -
Cycle time: 60-70 days
Size: 45-65cm Height/Width 35-50cm
Yield: 90-120g as a single plant grow
Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 500-600g is easily achievable.
Aroma and flavour: A Sweet/Sour/Fruity/Skunky combination that is very unique.
Effect: A nice balance is possible depending on consumption. Sedative, happy but something you can toke all day long at a good rate. Over indulge and expect couchlock.
Best grown: Indoor/Greenhouse
Flower Density: 8.5/10
Cannbinoids: TBA - Estimated over 20% total cannabinoids
Medicinal qualities: Great for appetite stimulation, aches and pains, and insomnia.
............................................................................
Further info:
Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing
Aroma level whilst growing - 10/10 Very high - Carbon filter alert
Trim ease - 7/10 - Main buds are very easy
Frost Level - 8/10
Bag Appeal - 9/10 Excellent - compact tough frosty smelly nuggets
After Cure Aroma level - 9/10 - High - double bag worthy
Potency - 9/10 Very high
Concentrate info - 9/10 Rich in terps ideal for rosin, live resin and bubble hash.
Overall Mephisto rating - 10/10 - Easily in our top 5 current strains that we love to grow and toke.
thewanderer718
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Yes we post here.
whitebb2727
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Stuck a couple in the dirt a few days ago. Should pop above ground any time.