The Walking Dead Plant

Greeting from the third world!

This is not my first grow but it's my first flowering plant. I had to dispose of my previous grows, for security issues, before I had the chance to flower them. This plant was transplanted from a DWC system after suffering from root rot into a 6 liter air pot where the roots fully recovered before I switched the lights. It has been in flowering since the 1st of July (first sign of flowering). I have a few issues and concerns. Thank you for sharing your wisdom in advance.

Strain:
Heat Resistant Indian Sativa (estimated).

Setup:
600w HPS Cool Tube.
Carbon Filter.
1 input fan.
2 oscilating fans.
1 exhaust fan.

Medium:
Soil in a 6 liter super roots air pot.

Nutrients and feeding schedule:
GH flora trio. 1 ml-2 ml-3 ml per liter, cannaboost 4 ml per liter and 3 drops of super thrive per liter fed once a week.
Watered whenever top few inches of soil are dry (24-36 hours).

Training:
LST until the plant stopped stretching at day 31 of flowering.

Temperature:
70-75 degrees Farenheit.
Humidity: 30% (estimated).
Light schedule: 12/12.

1) Plant seems to suffer from Nitrogen Toxicity and Deficiency at the same time; some leaves are yellow and other are shaped as claws.
2) GH Micro has too much nitrogen. Should I sick to Bloom only with cannaboost.
3) PH is perfectly fine. Both water and runoff are at 6.8. I just flushed it with three times the container size to reset.
4) Stems are purple.
5) Flowering is too slow even for a Sativa. Buds look under developed and some branches are too weak to support the flowers.
6) Side branches are denser than the top cola. The top cola was the last to start flowering after forcing it with topping.

Other Questions:
1)
I have the option of switching to Iguana Juice one part Bloom fertilizer.
2) Roots are showing at the bottom. Do you recommend feeding from the base.
3) A newbie cliche; How much longer and what should I expect?

Our community is growing worldwide. I appreciate the support. One day society will respect individualism and leave us the fuck alone.
 

Attachments

PS: The buds look much larger than they actually are. They're a little fatter than my thumb. Sorry about the quality of pictures and I forgot to rotate before uploading.
 
Have you done a good flush? It does look to be N def and burnt at the same time. No pro but I do know that to much N can cause lockout of other nutes. Try a really good flush, Ph your run off to make sure it is in range still and start at 1/4 nutes of recommenced or half of what you have been feeding and see if the new growth correct itself. Do one thing at a time so you know which one fixed it. Good luck and Happy Growing
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
I don't know what an air pot is.. but Im suggesting its seriously root bound. It does look very hungry the curling of the leaves like that can happen from overfeeding to high a ppm/ec and being root bound..but I don't know my plants are having some issues right now too
 

canefan

Well-Known Member
You need to feed the poor girl. That is not N toxicity just N def coupled with with over watering which lead to your root rot. Bring along with some N get some color back in your leaves so that they will help you plant. I would further suggest that since you have grown this plant, in the future you will use a bigger container it will help a great deal........good luck.
 

ZOMBIESxWEED

Active Member
That size plant in that size pot is definitely root bound and it's all sorts of nutrient deficient. 6 liters is only 1 1/2 gallons which is good for about a month of growth. Judging from the size of your plant it looks to need at least a 5 gal. If you're only growing one plant I'd look into purchasing just a single 20 liter Air-Pot for final transplant and use the 6 liter for early veg growth.
 
At first I did think it N deficiency so I increased fed it some N but it didn't help. I then did a search on N toxicity and the famous claw. Look at how the leaves are bending downwards in the second picture.

I just flushed it and I'm going to give it a few days of rest before I feed it again. Maybe I should go with a one part nutrient like Iguana Juice Bloom along with cannaboost, it eliminates the confusion.

I thought about root rot and root bound too, but it's an air pot, the container can take a plant twice the size of a regular plant and eliminates over watering. Nevertheless, I didn't expect the plant to veg for so long, it was suffering from root rot already in DWC and I waited for it to fully recover before I switched the light. I wasn't expecting her to get this big. Maybe feeding her from the base would help?

I really need to figure out whether it's deficiency or toxicity, the solution is entirely different. I have a two days before the pot dries.
 
That size plant in that size pot is definitely root bound and it's all sorts of nutrient deficient. 6 liters is only 1 1/2 gallons which is good for about a month of growth. Judging from the size of your plant it looks to need at least a 5 gal. If you're only growing one plant I'd look into purchasing just a single 20 liter Air-Pot for final transplant and use the 6 liter for early veg growth.
You're words are golden. What do you think I should do for a time being having a decent harvest in mind?
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
No, don't do that. The reason root bound causes curled leaves like too high of an ec/ppm. Increase transpiration by elevating temps an increase air flow. Allowing the plant to uptake more water, thereby also allowing you to use a lower ec/ppm . If they still require more nutes and you've maxed the amount of fertilizer in your water its time to start foliar feeding as well..... root bound isn't that serious. As an expirement I ran 8 sativas all upwards of 4 ft and they shared a 2 gallon pot, yielded just over a lb. Severe root bound but I kept it under control with those tips
 
No, don't do that. The reason root bound causes curled leaves like too high of an ec/ppm. Increase transpiration by elevating temps an increase air flow. Allowing the plant to uptake more water, thereby also allowing you to use a lower ec/ppm . If they still require more nutes and you've maxed the amount of fertilizer in your water its time to start foliar feeding as well..... root bound isn't that serious. As an expirement I ran 8 sativas all upwards of 4 ft and they shared a 2 gallon pot, yielded just over a lb. Severe root bound but I kept it under control with those tips
The current temperature is at 75. What temperature should I go for?
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
Depending on your current temps i would take it up to Low 80s but if your already there mid to high will be fine. To keep your buds from possibly fox tailing you should raise the night time temps slightly as well.. foliar feeding a hydroponic solution will help as well (sounds fancier than it is. Miracle grow bloom booster is designed for folair feeding having most nutes chelated as well as it being non toxic for fruits and veggies, its safe to eat plants sprayed with it)
 

Dr. Skunk Bud

Active Member
That's too bad about the roots being bound up you can tell it wants to put on weight really bad. These guys know what they are talking about big pots equal big plants and big buds bongsmilie
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Looks to me to very nute deficient Feeding once a week will not do it, especially during flowering. Do you know what the PPM is of your feed solution is? It should be at around 1000, which is safe. Some bring it up to 1400 which is pushing it I think. I keep mine at 1200 without any problems. You might be over watering also, which is where a soil moisture meter comes into play. Your soil can be dry on top, with a good deal of moisture still being around the roots. Also 6.8 ph is high for soil, you should target 6.2. I would also recommend getting a soil test kit to really get an understanding of what is up with your soil. I hope I have helped. Peace
 

ZOMBIESxWEED

Active Member
Sorry I couldn't get back to this thread sooner. Looks to me like you got all the necessary information for a successful flower though so win for you!
 
Top