THELOADEDDRAGON'S Perpetually growing perpetual grow

the first couple pics show the size and relative structure they are going into the flowering room , pictured is Maui Skunk,

I will start with close ups next week or so.....

see lowering temps, slowly raising RH

I will shower them tomorrow, and use Freezing cold water..... and I am letting night time temps drop into the mid to low 50's at night now the RH will level off around 55 % at night at well...

Everything in the flowering room got watered today , just water..... its week 4 for elders, start of 2nd week for newcomers, lets watchem stretch shall we?

Are you dropping the temp to add color ?

They look healthy and bushy. They look ready to grow some beautiful buds. Do you always drop the temps down so low during flower?

nope.... its a response to Spidermite activity, a deterrent

what would you say is the ideal temp and humidity to slow mite activity TLD?

That Maui Skunk is looking good

well at lights on temps were 53 degrees, RH was at 67%, the Temps bottomed out at 48 degrees last night, and RH peaked at 69% (my hygrometer is set to save daily highs and lows )

Lights on, Below 75, I try to keep it between 71-73, with RH of 50-60 % ..... yesterday the RH bottomed out at 39%, and temps peaked at 76 degrees

Keeping good air circulation the whole time

Thanks bout the Maui Skunk...... Twilight sure is a prize winner as well

theloadeddragon said:

nope.... its a response to Spidermite activity, a deterrent

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good knowledge from a SM vetran, thanks!

looking great in there, i like how you're not scared of the uneven canopy, worth the hard work! do you try to get the newcomers tops even with the old timers? or do you let them get their initial stretch?

i wonder if the cold temps seriously adversely affect the growth and/or flowering of the plants... I run my lights at night (and thereby need no heat at night time) but allow the room to go as cold as 45 degrees during the daytime (lights off) hours. I don't suppose it helps them any.
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no its not good for the root environment to get below 65 degrees, harmful bacteria begins to develop at faster rates

I am growing in soil. Soil retains temperature a bit better than some other media. Especially since I am using black pots.

as far as the foliage, temps as low as 45 will only slow Auxin movement considerably rather than actually damage the plant or cause necrosis, and once lights on resumes and temps climb, the Auxin build up is less, and shoots out throughout the plant faster. unless your dealing with a pest like SM, its best not to let night time temps dip below 60 degrees for optimal stimulus growth. The main concern being your media temps (67-72 degrees optimum).


As far as the canopy goes, the perpetual end of the flowering technique I am using allows for a "constant flow of plants" through the room. Starting with the 5 that I did (the 1st set), they are topping out at 5 1/2 ft. The plants in the center are the 2nd set, they are stretching right now, and about 55% of the sq ft of the box is being used. They should be about done with their stretch in a week or so from now (two and a half weeks from start of 12/12), and at that time I will move the plants so they form more of a ring around the center of the box. I will fill the center of the box at this time with the 3rd set of plants (not having to move the light the entire time). This will put me at roughly 6 weeks flower on the Eldest of flowering plants (the 1st set), so after the initial 2 1/2 week stretch of the 3rd set of plants, the 1st set will be harvested, the 3rd set will be pushed out to the side previously occupied by the 1st set, being replaced in the center by the 4th set, and the 4th set will push out to replace the 2nd set, and the 5th set will replace the 3rd set and so on...... <<<<<< This perpetual technique creates a constantly Bowl shaped canopy which provides for the most optimum use of my light . It also makes calculating the yields vs. amnt of light and time used very difficult however :/

i love how you spell out perpetual, i like your style. now it's clear, im doing a similar setup, but didn't know if i needed the second string to be even with the first. great facts on how soil retains heat and auxin movement, happy growing brother. you're keeping a perpetual flow of facts for many in need.

the idea is to harvest every 3 weeks or so..... the harvest weights will fluctuate a good bit because I will be using different strains and different number of plants of each strain in each set, so its hard to guess at what I would harvest each time on avg as well.... but we'll find out together .

the fact is you're living you're dream, growing perpetually. giving all of the green love you got in you to these plants, they know and love it. can't stop thinking about that twilight, damn!

theloadeddragon said:

no its not good for the root environment to get below 65 degrees, harmful bacteria begins to develop at faster rates

I am growing in soil. Soil retains temperature a bit better than some other media. Especially since I am using black pots.

as far as the foliage, temps as low as 45 will only slow Auxin movement considerably rather than actually damage the plant or cause necrosis, and once lights on resumes and temps climb, the Auxin build up is less, and shoots out throughout the plant faster. unless your dealing with a pest like SM, its best not to let night time temps dip below 60 degrees for optimal stimulus growth. The main concern being your media temps (67-72 degrees optimum).


As far as the canopy goes, the perpetual end of the flowering technique I am using allows for a "constant flow of plants" through the room. Starting with the 5 that I did (the 1st set), they are topping out at 5 1/2 ft. The plants in the center are the 2nd set, they are stretching right now, and about 55% of the sq ft of the box is being used. They should be about done with their stretch in a week or so from now (two and a half weeks from start of 12/12), and at that time I will move the plants so they form more of a ring around the center of the box. I will fill the center of the box at this time with the 3rd set of plants (not having to move the light the entire time). This will put me at roughly 6 weeks flower on the Eldest of flowering plants (the 1st set), so after the initial 2 1/2 week stretch of the 3rd set of plants, the 1st set will be harvested, the 3rd set will be pushed out to the side previously occupied by the 1st set, being replaced in the center by the 4th set, and the 4th set will push out to replace the 2nd set, and the 5th set will replace the 3rd set and so on...... <<<<<< This perpetual technique creates a constantly Bowl shaped canopy which provides for the most optimum use of my light . It also makes calculating the yields vs. amnt of light and time used very difficult however :/

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How long do you plan on keeping the temps down to kill the SM? So you will be harvesting every two-three weeks? That is a true perpetual, I can't imagine all the work to keep that going man, props to you for all the TLC you are putting into your girls. I continue to learn from you.

Probably be keeping the temps lower for the next 6 weeks. 4 weeks like I am doing it now, then for two weeks I will let it get up to 75-76 in the room. Its the RH that I can't hold high for much longer. It was pretty constant at 55-60% all day today, but I can't allow that to continue for much longer...... Its the showers, the cleaning, the sprays that will get rid of them, and I only have the next two weeks to get that done, and get it done right.

Yeah tons of work keeping it perpetual, and lining up plants for perpetual outdoors as well, and getting the 2nd phase running perpetual as well....... hopefully realistically kicking off phase 3 at the beginning of next fall ..... but if anyone's read through my time lines throughout the whole journal...... I get behind lol......

Phase 2 should be a lot of fun for me! watering and feeding should be made a hell of a lot easier, a couple vertical additions in the center isle, I will be firing up the 2nd side as well! It kicks off in a month! That will take it to harvesting once a week. And bulk harvests outdoors. I wasn't able to completely supply my patients with their medicine over the last year.... they had to buy their own on numerous occasion! I would like to prevent that this year, its my resolution! .

theloadeddragon said:

Probably be keeping the temps lower for the next 6 weeks. 4 weeks like I am doing it now, then for two weeks I will let it get up to 75-76 in the room. Its the RH that I can't hold high for much longer. It was pretty constant at 55-60% all day today, but I can't allow that to continue for much longer...... Its the showers, the cleaning, the sprays that will get rid of them, and I only have the next two weeks to get that done, and get it done right.

Yeah tons of work keeping it perpetual, and lining up plants for perpetual outdoors as well, and getting the 2nd phase running perpetual as well....... hopefully realistically kicking off phase 3 at the beginning of next fall ..... but if anyone's read through my time lines throughout the whole journal...... I get behind lol......

Phase 2 should be a lot of fun for me! watering and feeding should be made a hell of a lot easier, a couple vertical additions in the center isle, I will be firing up the 2nd side as well! It kicks off in a month! That will take it to harvesting once a week. And bulk harvests outdoors. I wasn't able to completely supply my patients with their medicine over the last year.... they had to buy their own on numerous occasion! I would like to prevent that this year, its my resolution! .

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That's awesome brother. I will be along for the ride.

I hear ya on medicine shortage. Would like to be able to do the same for my patients. I have a lot of work to do in between now and then. Sounds like things are moving. Keep up the good work!

wow, talk about a lot of work. the constant gardener, don't know what that means, but sounds good. outdoor, for real! can't wait to see how you do it. are you thinking of green house. how will you prevent the catipillars that eat your nugs and you can't tell until they've eaten them! good luck, you deserve it!

As always, this thread is moving at light speed.

All the plans sound great dragon, I always find some words of inspiration here. Cheers.

Getting ready for a safe new year?