thermal imaging technology VS water cooled lamps (1000w)

might as well shoot for the moon in most cases but water cooled can be more then you want to deal with if you have any problems

NoDrama said:

FLIR does not see through walls.

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He's right. This is why light leaks is a big no no. Also venting the hot air is critical.

anotherchance said:

might as well shoot for the moon in most cases but water cooled can be more then you want to deal with if you have any problems

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$20,000??? 360plants??? numerous lights??? first grow??? i dont think so... sounds to me like at least setting up for failure.... possibly prison

its hard to get your return from water cooled lighting - i know i have done it - i switched to air cooled and omegas

watts dont mean shit to IR im ex military and im very up to date on
IR, you could have a 700$ bill every month and run 10 1000s and its
not going to get you busted, the electric company wants your money
they gain nothing by turning you in plus a hot tub uses 4000watts at
15 amps, 60 inch plasma uses 800wats at 6amps get where im going with this, as for the greenharvest or any other eye in the sky as long as your
on the down low and dont smell up the naboir hood you can have 20
lights going and be cool just know your house will glow on IR but that
dont mean your going shit you could have a shop with shop halides.
anything they see is not useable in court unless theres a police case
going prior to the IR scan. back to the water aspect it cuts heat but
will not remove the arch light of the bulb now there are way to beat this
there are product on the market that shield IR from seeing the arch
light. gust google it as im not sure the name of it. and IR does see in
your home in can see you smoking a dub how do you think we found
all the bad guys in afgan land. the point is stay cool dont avertize and
you should be cool, the way i see it go big or go home but dont plan
on doing this for long get in and get out down time are good.

I believe you're talking about this:

Discount Hydroponics - Block-IR

thanks for the link didnt have time earlyer to put it on here

goodmorning everyone you know since i've been on here it was a copper over my house last night like it wanted to land on it lol it went by two time lol but i dnt care i love this site and i like the info it brings

but now about shooting for the moon
there will be a time not soon but one day i will start and i feel even if i shoot for 700 as long as i am a rookie i think i should stay around but when i become good then i can go out and stay gone for weeks at a time but when i grow i plan on being in the house from start to finish so is that cool

All I know is that is fucking crazy!!!! I want to say that if you grow 360 plants if they ain't all from a bad ass fem clone then 50% will probably be male. What are you thinking bro! Have fun in prison!

prison is for the dumb and blind do you think i would grow and talk well no i want the more ppl that know of the grow you are doing the more likely you will be in prison but if i grow one thats bad in the gov eyes but yah keep everything on hush

okay say you dont go to prison...what about the problem with male plants? you have a bunch of mother plants just chillin somewhere or are you starting with seeds?

Hey dude buy just one 1000 watt lamp and do a small grow first and see how you go.
The majority of people ruin their first grow,totally,and even the ones that get a crop only produce unsaleable buds of low quality.
Do a practice run first or you risk running at a serious loss.
Running that many lights is also very expensive even from a genny it will cost you a lot in fuel.
Best of luck anyway

the thing about advice is that smart people dont need it and stupid people dont listen to it

Don't fear the FLIR!!! The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled on the use of IR searches and found it unconstitutional.

Kyllo v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check it out!!!

floridacity2004 said:

goodmorning everyone you know since i've been on here it was a copper over my house last night like it wanted to land on it lol it went by two time lol but i dnt care i love this site and i like the info it brings

but now about shooting for the moon
there will be a time not soon but one day i will start and i feel even if i shoot for 700 as long as i am a rookie i think i should stay around but when i become good then i can go out and stay gone for weeks at a time but when i grow i plan on being in the house from start to finish so is that cool

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im sure they can turn that information into some kinda coincidence dont cha think

natmoon said:

Hey dude buy just one 1000 watt lamp and do a small grow first and see how you go.
The majority of people ruin their first grow,totally,and even the ones that get a crop only produce unsaleable buds of low quality.
Do a practice run first or you risk running at a serious loss.
Running that many lights is also very expensive even from a genny it will cost you a lot in fuel.
Best of luck anyway

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thats what im saying.....

if you are going to do it then at least go with the 600 watt version cause the difference between the 600 and the 1000 is quite a lot in both BTUs and the pressure on the unit need to hold the 1000 watt lamp under water compared to the 600. i have used both and the 600s are way easier to use

Water cooled, air cooled, not cooled. Doesn't matter. The heat HAS to go somewhere. Air and water actually add to the heat of the overall system.
You can, and water cooled included, decide where that heat goes.

And if you fear the FLIR and/or LEO, don't grow, you Sally.

Risk management.

(most states in the US its a bigger penalty to harvest the possess. So weigh the cost of a bag or two over the conviction vs possibilities of being caught.)

Live in a low-rent area?
See cops a lot on your block?
Nosey neighbors?
Place look 'low class/white trash' compared to the rest of the area?
Delinquent on bills (even the car payments)?
Drive a bomber of a car?

Don't give a reason for anyone to think less of you.

Lets say you are venting (air) into another room, away from the grow room. The
room that is receiving the heated air will eventually reach unbearable temps.
Lets say you are a bigger operation, and you need to vent outside. You will stick
out like a sore thumb on any heat sensing radar. Just like the guy said on page
three, they (FLIR Heli's) can see through walls to a certain depth, pretty damn far
in. The water cooled light returns hot water to the rez, and it confines the heat
sig to the 45 gallon resevoir which is very small on radar, and very easy to cool
off. A very efficient way is too pass the returning water thru a radiator with a decent
fan blowing at it. Water cooled all the way if you are looking to remain lo-profile.
Otherwise.... blast your hot air where ever you want man!! And dont forget to
plant a giant "Hemp for Victory" flag on your roof!!. only kidding - water cooled
is good stuff.

Oh Yeah... dont forget to remember that Cops and other assorted LEO agencies will do whatever the fuck they want - whenever the fuck they want!

BigBudBalls said:

Water cooled, air cooled, not cooled. Doesn't matter. The heat HAS to go somewhere. Air and water actually add to the heat of the overall system.
You can, and water cooled included, decide where that heat goes.

And if you fear the FLIR and/or LEO, don't grow, you Sally.

Risk management.

(most states in the US its a bigger penalty to harvest the possess. So weigh the cost of a bag or two over the conviction vs possibilities of being caught.)

Live in a low-rent area?
See cops a lot on your block?
Nosey neighbors?
Place look 'low class/white trash' compared to the rest of the area?
Delinquent on bills (even the car payments)?
Drive a bomber of a car?

Don't give a reason for anyone to think less of you.

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.....Everytime I read this guys posts I hear it in Bubble's voice. Same with "Earl" I hear his posts in his voice. Sorry, I had to say it.