These Fans Are The Real Deal !!

Mindmelted

Mindmelted

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Around a $100,and the back panel was that really thin cardboard like material that they use for the back of bookcases.
 
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na5342

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edcocks said:
Just got mine today and installed it as the sole exhaust fan on my dresser sized cabinet(150 watt HPS and four 24" T5's). I got the smallest version TD-100 with the 4 inch inlet. Claimed 103 CFM. Keeps my temps perfect and makes very little noise. This was my third try to get an effective ultrastealthy fan and I finally got it right. The crappy Suncourt 6 inch fan moved air, but was noisy as hell. The Suncourt 4 inch did not move any air and was also noisy. I'm so happy to have found this type of duct fan. I recommend it highly to stealth cabinet growers. I paid $72 which includes shipping.
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Can I ask what kind of odor control you have it hooked up to? What would be a good carbon filter pair for this fan? I have a 20" X 36" X 64" tent.

Thanks!
 
calicat

calicat

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You can purchase fans at major hardware stores in the plumbing section that push 235 cfm and the price is 60 dollars. But I still love my hurricane centrifugal fan
 
FullMetalJacket

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na5342 said:
Can I ask what kind of odor control you have it hooked up to? What would be a good carbon filter pair for this fan? I have a 20" X 36" X 64" tent.

Thanks!
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I would go with the larger one if i were you.

The td-100 only is good for 50 cfm at .20 SP. I use it with a can 2600. That being said if you want to move more than 50 cfm you need a bigger fan.

I would get the td-125 or td-150 if i were you w/ a can 33 or comparable filter. The fans are only like $40 more and are just as quiet.
 
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FullMetalJacket said:
I would go with the larger one if i were you.

The td-100 only is good for 50 cfm at .20 SP. I use it with a can 2600. That being said if you want to move more than 50 cfm you need a bigger fan.

I would get the td-125 or td-150 if i were you w/ a can 33 or comparable filter. The fans are only like $40 more and are just as quiet.
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Great, Thanks!
 
old yeller

old yeller

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skm - The DIY muffler i made was based on the fact that most 6" commercial mufflers were 24" & i had some 36" x 1/2" welded hardware cloth from HD that i used instead. Figured that longer was better. I just made a 6" roll of it & inserted it into a piece of 8" galvanized duct that i cut to fit when i took into consideration the 2, 8"x6" reducers i needed at both ends - i think i cut the 8" duct to 30". Stuffed it with 2 bags of poly fill they use for pillows and it cut the sound down by at least 50%. It cost me about $40 to make where the store bought ones were going for $80+.
I didn't take construction pics cause i kept cutting my hands up on that g.d.'ed galvanized ducting & getting blood all over everything - didn't want to mess up my new Canon G10 camera (the best p&s ever made).
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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your construction makes perfect sense. I already have most of those things lying around, so maybe I'll try making one some time.

I've just never seen a muffler in person, so I didn't know what the inside looked like.
 
Hotwired

Hotwired

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I've looked everywhere for these fans and maybe 2 companies sell them.

This can't be too good. If the fans were good they'd be selling like hotcakes and more companies would be selling them.

What's up with these things?
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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Hotwired said:
I've looked everywhere for these fans and maybe 2 companies sell them.

This can't be too good. If the fans were good they'd be selling like hotcakes and more companies would be selling them.

What's up with these things?
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Your logic is kinda flawed. There are a number of reasons why most companies don't sell them. For one, perhaps S&P doesn't offer a contract with most companies, and prefers to sell them direct. Apple computers did, and to some degree still does this exact strategy. It means a larger profit margin for them. It wasn't until recently that apples were even sold in best buy.

Another reason is perhaps most of these companies don't know about S&P fans. I know my local hydroponic shop doesn't spend hours upon hours researching different fans and bulbs to use, they usually just get what people request, or what is advertised or sold to them. If an S&P rep isn't calling up all the local home depots to sell them their fans, then HD won't sell them.

Another very possible reason why stores don't sell them is that they don't have a good mark up value, or profit margin. If a shop can sell you a shitty duct fan for $20, and make $10 out of it, that's awesome. If it can sell you a Vortex for $150 and make $40, even better. Perhaps the mark up on an S&P is only like $10-15. What is the benefit that the store has of stocking up on them, when it can make so much more comparativly out of the shitty duct fans and the vortex fans.

Your conclusion that the fans must be crappy because in a capitalist market the invisible hand hasn't stocked these fans is somewhat flawed. There is a number of reasons why they arn't stocked in stores, and why people don't have them in their homes.

I have one, and I love it. Much quieter than my vortex, uses less space, and is much more adapt to overcome resistances. But if you don't want to believe what everyone else is saying, then go to HD with the specs of the fans and ask what they think.
 
mane2008

mane2008

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They actually don't push more air than vortex at all, vortex blows them out the water.
Look at the cfm and free air ratings.
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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mane2008 said:
They actually don't push more air than vortex at all, vortex blows them out the water.
Look at the cfm and free air ratings.
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If straight up CFM is your main concern, you are 100% correct, the Vortex blows S&P out of the water. But my main concern is not CFM, but quality, maintenance, construction materials, and sound.

I have a TD-125 Mixvent fan and a 6" Vortex. While the vortex moves a mass amount of air, it's metal housing unit resonates alot of noise. It's big, it's bulky, it's heavy, and it doesn't have the ability to overcome obstructions in the ventilation the way that the Mixvent fans can. S&P fans, however, are super easy to install, clean, reverse the direction of the air flow (if you want to, I personally don't), and their plastic materials makes them operate at a much quieter level.

I know that the Vortex is rated at 49 dBa (6" one), but I can't find the noise information on the S&P's, anyone have these? I know it's quieter, but how much I'm not sure.
 
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