Hello peers. I’ll get straight to it since everyone hasn’t things to do. My girls are just over a month old and showing they’re sex, great!! I’ve noticed a recent problem and I think it will be calcium deficiency. Hope so anyway. Specs are im growing in 70/30% coco/perlite. I use ionic grow for coco with no additives. I know, I’m broke this time round.. I’m currently feeding at 1500ppm and no nutrients burn.. 20l fabric pots feed them roughly 5l each twice a week sometimes 3.. one of them feeds a week will be a flush of ph neutral water.. I do use tap water that is 300ppm. The past week I’ve been noticing drastic drooping in the morning on my biggest plant and new growth is lime green and thin. Some of the leafs tips are clawing down. Temps in my room are 27-19c obviously colder side during the ‘night’. Usually the sit between 25 for day and 20 and night. I have passive and one 4inch active intake. Big fat exhaust And I have a 600w MH and a 300w led for supplemental light. Got a 600w hps waiting for flower time. Think I’ve covered everything. So yeah, just worried about the bright new growth, morning droop on one plant and clawing leaves. Appreciate any thoughts on the other girls too, photos all here.. FYI smallest I thought died and buried it for it to bounce back in another pot, so she been through a lot that’s why she tiny. All the same age think biggest is 2 weeks older than the rest
Thin lime growth, tips clawing down
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Lowkeygardener
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I suggest taking photos without blurples on. People are gonna give you shit for it and it will not be productive shit lol
Dape Green
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Feed concentration is way too high. Id be at like 500 at that stage, and you shouldnt be watering coco with plain water. Frequency seems about right I guess for this stage, I’m still allowing a fair amount of dry back at this stage
Thought higher the better for ppm if it can handle it. I usually allow 3-4 days for the pot to dry out. Close to the weight of a completely dry coco pot. I do judge by picking it up though
Without the led? I have seen people complain before on other threads
Don’t flush coco with ph 7 tap water? I try to do it once a week
Herb & Suds
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So nitrogen toxicity is what I’m looking at. Thank you for the info so what others suggest is about 500ppm, just that then flush for the crop. Should I flush before flower Im planning on giving them another few weeks at most then flipping them
Herb & Suds
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You flush toliets not plants
Dape Green
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why the leap to N tox? Hard to tell from your pics as the colour is distorted but I’d expect to see darker leaves if that was the case. Do you ever check the ec or ph of your runoff?
man don’t get into the whole flushing thing. Many growing for many many years swear by it. I do more of a leeching process but it each their own. I think that if your feeding regime isn’t well dialed ( feeding 1500 ppm) in you will benefit from leeching/flushing. I certainly don’t trust that report from a nute company telling me to use more of their product.
I jumped to n tox because the clawing on lead tips here’s some photos without the led off. I test my ph and ppm before I add nutes and after. I don’t test the ph of run off but I do ppm.. run off is lower at the begging of the week and before I flush it’s close to 1800. I’ve gathered im not watering correctly this is my first coco grow.
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Dape explain your leaching process. I’ve genuinely never heard that term but this is the first time I’m turning to the internet for answers, I guess I’m a noob to everyone’s here
Dape Green
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well I’m sure people will disagree or argue terms but this is what I was shown by an old boy and it works great for me. I don’t flush the shit out of them, I do it slowly. I gradually cut back on the main nutes but keep feeding cal mag, fulvic acid and blackstrap from say day 45 through 55-60. I water enough that I see the ppm of the waste drop each watering. Then it’s straight water with a fair amount of dry back till it’s ready. Some may say bro science, but this routine gives me some damn good smoke that I’m always told is super smooth. My dad is 70 and an old hippy. He had to stop smoking weed and only able to eat it cuz it was irritating his lungs, he can smoke mine though so I make sure to keep the old fella stocked!
Do some trial and error man, it’s part of the fun. There’s a million ways to grow this plant, find out what works for you.
Billy the Mountain
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Wrong, never let coco dry out.
Ideal ppm for late veg? Some dude said 600 but that seems next to nothing
Dape Green
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Nute strength is a product of pheno, light intensity and environment( temp, rh, CO2). Every room, strain and light is different. When I flower under a 315 cmh i top out 6-650 ppm and it’s plenty. LED I have to go higher.