Thinking Of Growing, Bit Of Help?

Hey Guys, right i'm thinking of growing my own.
I'm a first time grower, long time smoker.
i was thinking of doing it outdoors because indoors is just too expensive and too much hassle with possible getting caught etc.
i know theres still a risk of growing outdoors but it seems to be the easier of the two options but anyway, can you guys give a newbie some tips?
i'm not too sure on how to do outdoor growing so if someone could send me a previous post thats takes you through it or something that would be great.
thanx.

Well some main things you will need are: Soil (lots of kinds, one exaple that seems popular here is Foxfarm.), pots (different sizes for different stages) and fertilizer (start feeding it after 2-4 weeks depending on how its doing. During Veging, which is when the plant grows in size and does not produce any bud, you need high Nitrogen *NPK*). How are you getting your seeds? most people here order them, one good website that everyone seems to agree on is:
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/

There is a LOT to growing, spend some time cruising through the newbie section and "general growing" section and you will find you start learning very quickly!

im a noob too, but here's my 2 cents. [btw this is if you're going to guerrilla grow; not grow in your backyard or around your house outside]

outdoors can yield you A LOT. and i mean a lot of buds if you do it decently. the only thing problem is that if you dont lst it somehow, its going to stretch naturally and be extremely tall. you really cant avoid it stretching, and that causes a problem because then your cannabis plant can easily be spotted if not grown in a good area.

Also, the time of month really makes a difference. currently in the northern hemisphere it's long daylight hours and shorter night hours, which is good for vegetation. weather can also make ur buds crappy or good. usually outdoor growing produces inferior buds. inside you can control so many variables, but outside you can only control so much...

you also attract a lot of pests (seems like humans aren't the only ones that enjoy a nice bud). they can and will eat up your crop if they stumble upon it.


if you're going to grow outdoors though i'd say find a HUGE bushy field that is not privately owned by someone AND FARR FROM YOUR HOME (prefferbly farther than a block). dont get caught planting the seeds either. i recommend getting feminized seeds so that you dont plant a billion seeds only to realize that half of them are males. why have too many of what you don't need? and + it's going to get tall and wind is going to be blowing pollen if it ever reaches that stage before you realize it. then no more female's with buds for you. If i were to do it, i would really start off in my home, just to get it starting. then get cuttings from it and plant them outdoors. that way you don't waste seeds and if you were to have one cutting die, you still have clones that you can get or if all clones die, at least you saved yourself a lot of seeds.

There is an outdoor growing section on here to find more info. If you have never grown before, outdoors is a good choice, its more forgiving to mistakes. Than later on you can move to indoors if you feel like it. Unless you are in a warmer area, you really better hurry up, the growing season leaves us fast, especially if you are in the north. If you are going to buy potent seeds from a seedbank, order them now and get your info later, as it takes time to start em too. I would start these indoors though, where you can keep close watch over them. I start mine in cubes in the dark (Ive been using rapid rooters and 100% germ rate this year) when they show the little round caly leaves, I put under a double buld 40w (4 feet) shoplight, 2 bulbs for a total of 80 watts. Than the cubes can be put in larger containers, many use 16-18oz keg beer cups with dirt in them. Once they are established and stable let em get used to the outdoors, sun, wind,etc(do this slowly, like a few hours 1 day than a few the next so you dont throw too much at them at once) Than transplant them. The choice there than becomes, using your own containers, like 5 gal pails or plant directly in the ground. That choice is usually based on what kind of soil you have locally and what the ph is, some areas it isnt suitable for cannabis. If you are buying seed, choose one that thrives in your climate, bagseed is hard in that you probobly dont know anything about where it grows and when it harvests, and thats important, if it usually ripens in december for example, and you live in winter wonderland, it wont have time to finish, so choosing strain is job #1. Good luck.

P.S-evisu brings up another good point (his whole post was good), if you buy seeds, clone your plants before they flower and maybe setup a mother from these clones, make sure you know what plant what clone came from, and keep the one from the plant that was the best in taste, yield, high etc.....Than you can keep a mom plant under the flouro I advised, and next year just take cuttings for your outdoor grow. Cloning isnt hard, if you need advice on it PM me ill send you my basic tutorial.

evisu said:

outdoors can yield you A LOT. and i mean a lot of buds if you do it decently. the only thing problem is that if you dont lst it somehow, its going to stretch naturally and be extremely tall. you really cant avoid it stretching, and that causes a problem because then your cannabis plant can easily be spotted if not grown in a good area.

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IMO , i would say growing outside is easier then growing indoors for a beginner. But like this guy said , its hard to control some things. Currently i have 2 clones growing on my balcony and the thing that worries me the most is being able to keep them small. i will try to "train" them low and then maybe help them to flower early by covering them up a few extra hours each night to try to get closer to 12/12. probably wont come out great with all these obstacles but hey they only cost 15 each , so if i get 2 grams of bud then i made my money back right? lol.Hopefully i will get plenty more than that though! good luck

Hey guys, thanx for the help it is very much apprieiated.
starting indoors would be good but unfortunatly i cant do that due to people disaprroving of it so thats a reason i chose outdoors.
i have a nice little area thats secluded to plant about 30 plants anybody have any ideas of what type to grow? white strain is my fav but i hear its hard to grow
i live in the north west of the Uk and the weather has recently brightened up so climate is good at the minute.whats the quickest i would be able to grow in i.e seed to harvest? and also what is involved in flowering?
thanx.

Indica dominant where you live, sativas tend to take longer, they more suitable for warmer climates in most cases, Blueberry and Northern Lights are 2 strains that would do good in your climate, theres others, but those are pretty damn good, tasty and potent, you cant go wrong with those 2. Flowering will take care of itself outdoors, you can change their diet to a lower (n) and higher(p) during this time to help.

ILLISTOFSUPERCHRON said:

they only cost 15 each , so if i get 2 grams of bud then i made my money back right? l

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lmao that is why i believe growing cannabis is almost always financially easy

if you really want something that is quick to grow I'd go for Indica strains. sativas usually take much longer and enjoy more humid and hotter places (which is hard in the north). You can also read up on different strains and how long it takes for them to grow on seed bank sites. i recommend checking out the attitude seed bank...but if you got ur own seed bank then i guess thats fine


flowering - after vegetation (which is when ur plants just grow w/o producing buds), you enter a 12/12 hour period to replicate outdoor seasonal changes. this tells the plant to start producing buds. this is when ur plants will get extremely stinky. good luck


well it seems like purple explained it nicely enough lol oh well

Well thats brilliant as Northern Lights is one of my favorites
how much do you guys rckon the entire set up would cost excluding seed prices?
and how manys grams do you reckon i could produce from around 20 seeds approximitly if all goes well (hopefully)
one other thing im not sure on is harvesting not too sure as how to do it etc
never done any of that always just bought it but thats what being a newbie is all about hey?

Well thats brilliant as Northern Lights is one of my favorites
how much do you guys rckon the entire set up would cost excluding seed prices?
and how manys grams do you reckon i could produce from around 20 seeds approximitly if all goes well (hopefully)
one other thing im not sure on is harvesting not too sure as how to do it etc
never done any of that always just bought it but thats what being a newbie is all about hey?

to start out it wouldnt cost much, especially outdoors.

you would be looking at probably $5 per POT to have seeds in. maybe $10 dollars for good soil.
then again if you are just growing in an open area and planting it using the soil there it wouldnt cost you a thing lol.


when ur plants start getting taller though you might wanna buy nutrients to help it grow faster and healthier. this could run you $20-50+.


the yield really depends on when you are letting it flower and when you are stopping it from flowering.

i'd say if you let the plants reach almost 6 feet, you can produce about 2 ounces per plant.

20 plants x 2 ounces = 40 ounces


40 ounces = 28g x 40
= 1120g

which is also about 2.4 pounds lol

jesus christ 2 ounces per plant?
quite alot of money in this then hey?
i was expecting about half an ounce per plant tops
during the flowering stage to get some buds what do i do as in covering it etc?
plus still havent a clue on harvesting
thanx

WhosYourDaddy1 said:

jesus christ 2 ounces per plant?
quite alot of money in this then hey?
i was expecting about half an ounce per plant tops
during the flowering stage to get some buds what do i do as in covering it etc?
plus still havent a clue on harvesting
thanx

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2 ounces per plant is not very much either. outdoors you can probably grow more than that. people have been known to get over a pound from one plant growing outdoor. yep its a money maker haha
=) peace

bloody hell
sounds like a plan
thanx for the help guys its much appreiated
il post again when i need some more help im gonna start this project at the end of next month so il start a grow blog and keep you guys updated when i start it
thanx

you are most likely to to get half of your plants to survive from germination to harvest, this being your first grow. also i doubt they have time to get to be 6 ft or fill with thick buds. if i were you, i would get a handful of seeds and play around with one or two at a time, untill you have a better idea of how all this works when you have one good feminized mother plant start taking clones from her. also i dont think you want to put 20 plants in the same place as they could pollinate each other if one turns male on you. i dont kno if fem seeds will do this but ive seen a friends growcloset turn all male because of one hermaphrodite in the mix